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    Direct access to Camera Raw

    Cherisy Level 1

      Hello

      I would lmike to know if it is possibvle to access DIRECTLY Camera  Raw, i;E without going through Photoshop first ?

      Thanks

        • 1. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
          Yammer Level 4

          Not as far as I know. It's a plug-in only - a single file with an 8bi extension.

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          • 2. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
            Yammer Level 4

            ... and I should mention that you can access it from Bridge too.

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            • 3. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
              Curt Y Level 7

              You have to access ACR either through Bridge or Photoshop, as camera raw is not a stand alone product.

               

              If you accesss it through Bridge it is a 32 bit product, in you access in in 64 bit Photoshop it opens in 64 bit mode.

              • 4. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                Noel Carboni Level 8

                The Lightroom raw conversion engine shares internals with Camera Raw.

                 

                Perhaps the workflow you're trying to achieve could be accomplished through LightRoom.

                 

                -Noel

                • 5. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                  MadManChan2000 Adobe Employee

                  As others have noted, ACR is a plug-in, and therefore requires a host. Two example host applications are Photoshop and Bridge.

                   

                  Lightroom has the same image processing functionality as the ACR plug-in (but does not depend on the plug-in itself).

                  • 6. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                    Hudechrome Level 2

                    I've seen the reference before to the 32 bit 64 bit opening, depending on which host one uses. Is there any advantage in ACR, to prefer the 64 bit host? I don't see any problems in 32 bit but I may be missing something.

                     

                    Thanks!

                    • 7. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                      Cherisy Level 1

                      Thanks for your help

                      • 8. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                        Jeff Schewe Level 5

                        Hudechrome wrote:

                         

                        Is there any advantage in ACR, to prefer the 64 bit host?

                         

                        Yes...speed. At the minimum ACR in 64-bit will be 10-15% faster (so the engineers tell me). But I've seen better slider performance and faster updates when opening really large raw files (such as from a 1Ds MIII or a Phase One 60MP back).

                         

                        If you have lots of spot removals and are using any lens corrections or local adjustments it seems faster than 10% for me when using ACR hosted by Photoshop instead of Bridge...

                        • 9. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                          Hudechrome Level 2

                          Ok, thanks. Now does it go to 64 bit when using the Bridge Icon in PS or do you use minibridge or...?

                          • 10. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                            Yammer Level 4

                            The 64 bit version comes into its own when using perspective correction and luminance noise reduction.

                             

                            You can only host the 64 bit version in Photoshop 64-bit. You can launch it from Bridge, using Ctrl-O (or double-click, if set to open in Ps), so long as the 32-bit version of Photoshop isn't already running.

                            • 11. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                              Hudechrome Level 2

                              Yammer P wrote:

                               

                              The 64 bit version comes into its own when using perspective correction and luminance noise reduction.

                               

                              You can only host the 64 bit version in Photoshop 64-bit. You can launch it from Bridge, using Ctrl-O (or double-click, if set to open in Ps), so long as the 32-bit version of Photoshop isn't already running.

                              Ok, I have 64 bit. PS is not open. I open a RAW using double click or open in ACR. Did it open as 32 or 64, and how do I know? If I right click the image select Open in PS it first runs PS which I can determine which version 32 or 64 is opening, and I assume then that the ACR which follows is running 64 bit.

                               

                              The 64 bit version comes into its own when using perspective correction and luminance noise reduction.

                              and luminance or luminance?

                               

                              I opened a file in ACR by selecting "Open in Camera Raw" without having PS running. I selected the luminance noise reduction and moved the slider. I saw no flicker or any indication that now I am in 64, or was I always in 64?

                               

                              I feel like I am a Beatles song! Does PS luv me or not?

                              • 12. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                Noel Carboni Level 8
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                                Hudechrome wrote:


                                Did it open as 32 or 64, and how do I know?

                                 

                                Watch for process(es) starting in Task Manager.  Each process has an indication of whether it's 32 bit or native 64 bit.

                                 

                                If you're running the plug-in from Bridge, and no new 64 bit process starts, then you're running Camera Raw as part of Bridge, which is only 32 bit.

                                 

                                People sometimes wonder why I prefer to use (64 bit) Explorer as my integrating app, avoiding Bridge entirely. 

                                 

                                -Noel

                                • 13. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                  Hudechrome Level 2

                                  Well, if I open PS in 64 bit first, that guarantees me that I am running 64 bit. That's what I came up with looking around. The Process Explorer is a good suggestion.

                                   

                                  My files are not nearly as large as medium format so I probably won't see much difference, but I want to be sure where I am first.

                                   

                                  Without supplementary viewers, I cannot visually pick the file I want in Explorer.

                                   

                                  It sucks to be hobbled!

                                  • 14. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                    Yammer Level 4

                                    If you go into Bridge's preferences, on the General tab, you see "double-click edits camera raw settings in bridge". If you tick this, double-clicking an image in Bridge will load ACR 32-bit hosted by Bridge - equivalent to typing Ctrl-R. If you clear the tick, double-clicking an image will load it in ACR hosted by Photoshop - equivalent to typing Ctrl-O. Photoshop 64-bit is loaded, unless 32-bit is already open.

                                     

                                    Once edited, if you click "Done" you're either left in Photoshop or Bridge, depending on which application hosts ACR. That's also a good indicator.

                                    • 15. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                      Level 4

                                      Hudechrome wrote:

                                       

                                      …Without supplementary viewers, I cannot visually pick the file I want in Explorer.

                                       

                                      It sucks to be hobbled!

                                       

                                       

                                      Get a Mac already, Larry.   

                                      • 16. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                        Noel Carboni Level 8

                                        Says the guy who can't even run the latest Photoshop. 

                                         

                                        -Noel

                                        • 17. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                          Hudechrome Level 2

                                          My neighbor and photo trip partner, also an engineer (Xerox) just got a Macbook, and let me tell you, it is tempting! But he doen't like the fact that Apple holds a tight leash on messing with it.

                                           

                                          Been thinking about you Ramon. I miss our conversations on music.

                                          • 18. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                            Hudechrome Level 2

                                            Ah, Ramon is a good guy, except when he trashes you!

                                            • 19. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                              Hudechrome Level 2

                                              Nice, Yammer P. I do have that checked in Prefs. I'll check it out.

                                              • 20. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                                Hudechrome Level 2

                                                Works just as you said, Yammer.

                                                 

                                                Guess I don't need Mac after all!

                                                • 21. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                                  Level 4

                                                  Hudechrome wrote:

                                                   

                                                  …a good guy, except when he trashes you!

                                                   

                                                  Larry, some time ago I came to the realization that some folks are already in the trash, so there's no need for me to bother with them.  I just ignore them.

                                                   

                                                  As for Apple, neither the MacBooks nor the iMacs come close to the desktop Mac Pros.  The screens are the deal breakers.  They're just too glossy and oversaturated, very good for watching movies (if you're into that kind of thing—which I'm not) but not really suitable for critical color work.  The desktop Mac Pros coupled with the top-of-the line NEC monitors are a dream come through.

                                                   

                                                  However, there's a very dark cloud rapidly approaching in the Mac world: Lion (OS X 10.7)  .  It makes me doubly glad that I stayed at Tiger 10.4.11, even if it can't run Photoshop 12.x.  If I'm still kicking then, I might consider getting a Windows box if and when Photoshop 13.x is released.

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  ____________

                                                  Wo Tai Lao Le

                                                  我太老了

                                                  • 22. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                                    Level 4

                                                    … the latest Photoshop…

                                                     

                                                    …is hardly worth running—except for ACR.

                                                    • 23. Re: Direct access to Camera Raw
                                                      Yammer Level 4

                                                      Tai Lao wrote:


                                                      Larry, some time ago I came to the realization that some folks are already in the trash, so there's no need for me to bother with them.  I just ignore them.

                                                       

                                                      I was someone who was regularly on the receiving end of that abuse. By your logic, that must mean that I'm "in the trash", which I presume means "worthl