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      • 40. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
        Dave_Gish Community Member

        Is it possible to use GPU accelerated rendering/transcoding from a Premiere Pro sequence within Adobe Encore?

         

        When I render out from Premiere Pro CS5 using Adobe Media Encoder (MPEG2-DVD), the GPU really helps speed that up, especially when downsampling from HD and/or adding color correction.  But this requires that I calculate the bitrate for the DVD titles manually, and lose some the other nice features of Encore as well.

         

        When I dynamically link Premire Pro sequences within Encore and use the automatic bitrate setting, I don't have to worry about bit rates, but the transcode seems to take forever, so I'm assuming that's not GPU accelerated.  In addition, I haven't found any settings for Maximum Render Quality or Maximum Bit Depth within Encore, so I'm assuming the quality of the renders will be worse.

         

        This all seems to indicate that Encore doesn't support GPU acceleration, which makes dynamic linking a sequence somewhat useless for me.

         

        Am I missing something?

        • 41. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
          Harm Millaard Community Member

          I'm guessing here, but Steve Hoeg will undoubtedly correct me if I'm wrong. Encore is still a 32 bit application that does not support hardware MPE. But even a 64 bit application like PR does not use hardware MPE for encoding, that is still a CPU matter. The benefit of hardware MPE comes from the scaling and blending, which is hardware assisted and is very noticeable when going from HD to SD.

           

          What I would suggest is using a bitrate calculator like DVD-HQ  Bitrate & GOP calculator to manually determine your best encode settings and export directly to MPEG2-DVD, which also gives you the advantage of being able to use AC3 5.1 sound if you have the Surcode plug-in.

          • 42. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
            Alex Hallajian Community Member

            Note  that whether a frame can be processed by CUDA depends on the size of  the frame and the amount of RAM on the graphics card (VRAM). This article gives details about that, toward the bottom.

            From the article:

            For example, one image size from a Canon T2i is 5184×3456. Doing the math, this requires 1,094MB, which just exceeds the 1GB available on the Quadro FX 3800, but is still within the 1.5GB of the Quadro FX 4800.

             

            The GeForce GTX 470 has 1280MB of memory so it would be able to use CUDA in the scenario above.

             

            For larger frame sizes:

            1. Would having dual GTX 470s work together to enable CUDA?
            2. From the list of things that CUDA accelerates, would the performance increase with dual cards be negligible?
            Has it been tested how dual cards increases performance of MPE?

             

             

            Thanks,
            Alex
            • 43. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
              joe bloe premiere Community Member

              1. Would having dual GTX 470s work together to enable CUDA?
              2. From the list of things that CUDA accelerates, would the performance increase with dual cards be negligible?
              Has it been tested how dual cards increases performance of MPE?

               

              Premiere Pro does not use dual cards in an SLI configuration.

              • 45. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                ROTIDE MLIF Community Member

                I run a hacked GTX 460 on my PC. The hack works great!

                 

                I have burned up one already, but later came to find out why CS5 burned it up:

                 

                1: The case wasn't cool enough; CPU is liquid cooled but I forgot to get another case for specifically for the GPU).

                2: The GTX 460 doesn't utilize it's auto fan controller very well, which is why Nvidia offers a fan controller software on the driver's CD. This will allow you to set the fan speed with different profiles. If I remember right, my GTX 460 fan speed was very marginal. Oh well. Nvidia replaced mine with no hassles and I have two case fans cooling it (one is blowing cool air on it, the other is blowing cool air out of the back of the case).

                 

                It was kinda funny watching smoke pour out of my GPU after hours of editing on it.

                • 46. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                  rokn1500 Community Member

                  it is great to see the expanded list of nvidia cards.

                   

                  hp still does NOT ship with any of these. too bad. i think hp desktop

                  packaging is really superior right now.

                   

                  but it looks like dell offers the quadro 6000 in a higher end configuration.

                   

                  maybe by next year, we will be able to buy a good selection of machines off

                  the shelf that will run premier pro w CUDA support.

                   

                  r

                  • 47. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                    dradeke Adobe Employee

                    whalematch wrote:

                     

                    hp still does NOT ship with any of these. too bad. i think hp desktop

                    packaging is really superior right now.

                     

                     

                    I've had 2 HP laptops that ship with them and I know you can get most Z station desktops configured with current Quadro cards as well.  Was there a specific model you were looking at that didn't offer it?

                     

                    Dennis

                    • 48. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                      Geronimosan Community Member

                      Todd, what are the plans for Adobe to take advantage of 2x, 3x, and 4xSLI GPU configurations? It's a shame for people to have thousands of dollars of hardware potentially going unused by an Adobe application.

                       

                      Can a person with an SLI configuration use the MPE as is, or do they need to disable the SLI configuration before using Adobe software? Meaning, if I have 3-Way SLI, if I use PPCS5/5.5 will it simply only use the GPU of one card, or will the SLI throw it off, and I am required to disable the SLI before PP will correctly use the GPU for MPE?

                       

                      Thanks in advance!

                      • 49. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                        Todd_Kopriva Adobe Employee

                        > Todd, what are the plans for Adobe to take advantage of 2x, 3x, and 4xSLI GPU configurations?

                         

                        I can't comment on future plans, but I will encourage you to make a feature request if this matters to you.

                         

                        > Can a person with an SLI configuration use the MPE as is, or do they need to disable the SLI configuration before using Adobe software? Meaning, if I have 3-Way SLI, if I use PPCS5/5.5 will it simply only use the GPU of one card, or will the SLI throw it off, and I am required to disable the SLI before PP will correctly use the GPU for MPE?

                         

                        If you have multiple GPUs in an SLI configuration, Premiere Pro will only use one of them for the CUDA processing features, but the fact that they're set up in this way shouldn't cause a problem. If it does, file a bug report.

                        • 50. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                          Dave_Gish Community Member
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                          what are the plans for Adobe to take advantage of 2x, 3x, and 4xSLI GPU configurations?


                          You're assuming that adding more GPU power through SLI would make Premiere CS5 run faster.  It would not.

                           

                          Remember that the video decoding and encoding are still performed by the CPU, and current CPUs are nowhere near as powerful as most GPUs.  So what you typically end up with is your CPU pegged around 100% usage, and your GPU only at running at 50% or less.  There are also issues with system memory size, system memory speed, GPU memory speed, etc.

                           

                          In other words, all parts of the system are being stressed, and the weakest link usually determines overall performance.  For CS5, GPU processing power is typically not the weakest link.  More detailed info here:

                          http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

                          • 51. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                            Geronimosan Community Member
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                            Dave_Gish wrote:

                             

                            function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}

                            what are the plans for Adobe to take advantage of 2x, 3x, and 4xSLI GPU configurations?


                            You're assuming that adding more GPU power through SLI would make Premiere CS5 run faster.  It would not.

                             

                            Remember that the video decoding and encoding are still performed by the CPU, and current CPUs are nowhere near as powerful as most GPUs.  So what you typically end up with is your CPU pegged around 100% usage, and your GPU only at running at 50% or less.  There are also issues with system memory size, system memory speed, GPU memory speed, etc.

                             

                            In other words, all parts of the system are being stressed, and the weakest link usually determines overall performance.  For CS5, GPU processing power is typically not the weakest link.  More detailed info here:

                            http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

                             

                            I don't think it is me who is making all of the assumptions.

                             

                            A) I never made the claim that adding more GPUs would make PP run faster. And I won't claim to know precisely what will and won't benefit PP, but it does make sense for one to hypothesize that what is affected by the GPU within MPE, additional GPUs would have additional benefit.

                             

                            B) I never mentioned anything about encoding and decoding, or how additional GPUs would affect that. In fact, this thread is about MPE, and as most of us know, MPE doesn't do any encoding and decoding, so I'm unsure how you decided to bring that topic into this thread.

                             

                             

                            function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}

                            Todd_Kopriva wrote:

                             

                            > Todd, what are the plans for Adobe to take advantage of 2x, 3x, and 4xSLI GPU configurations?

                             

                            I can't comment on future plans, but I will encourage you to make a feature request if this matters to you.

                             

                            > Can a person with an SLI configuration use the MPE as is, or do they need to disable the SLI configuration before using Adobe software? Meaning, if I have 3-Way SLI, if I use PPCS5/5.5 will it simply only use the GPU of one card, or will the SLI throw it off, and I am required to disable the SLI before PP will correctly use the GPU for MPE?

                             

                            If you have multiple GPUs in an SLI configuration, Premiere Pro will only use one of them for the CUDA processing features, but the fact that they're set up in this way shouldn't cause a problem. If it does, file a bug report.


                            Thanks for the info Todd. I will certainly make use of the feature request link.

                            • 52. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                              Dave_Gish Community Member
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                              Geronimosan wrote:



                              MPE doesn't do any encoding and decoding, so I'm unsure how you decided to bring that topic into this thread.

                               

                              How can the Mercury Playback Engine (MPE) play back video without decoding the video format?  That's what I was saying before.  The CPU still does the video decoding in MPE.  The GPU resizes the video window and processes many video effects in real time.  So MPE actually runs on both the CPU and GPU.  That's what "GPU Acceleration" means.

                               

                              function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}

                              Geronimosan wrote:

                               

                              I won't claim to know precisely what will and won't benefit PP, but it does make sense for one to hypothesize that what is affected by the GPU within MPE...


                              We don't have to hypothesize.  In the link I provided above, they tested many different system hardware configurations with various CPUs, memory, and graphics cards to see what really affects performance.  The bottom line is that for most sytems, PP CS5 generally hits the limits for CPU, memory speed, and/or hard drive speed way before the GPU hits max, and that's with a single mainstream type graphics card.

                               

                              By the way, you can see how much of the CPU and GPU you're using in real time by downloading the NVidia System Monitor tool from their web site.

                              • 53. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                baron jorel

                                I agree. Your list is very limited and affects many, many people. I bought a Nvidia Quadro FX-1800 especifically to use it with Premiere Pro CS5. Now I find out I can't use the GPU acceleration that Adobe brags about.

                                • 54. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                  Dave_Gish Community Member

                                  The Quadro FX-1800 doesn't have enough video RAM to work with Premiere Pro CS5 or CS5.5.  You need a card with at least 1 GB of video RAM.  And for good performance, it needs to be GDDR5 video RAM (not GDDR3).

                                   

                                  You can buy an NVidia GTS 450 for a little over $100, and if you follow the directions here:

                                  http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

                                  it works great.

                                  • 55. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                    baron jorel Community Member

                                    Then, can someone tell me why I spent the money on a Quadro FX-1800 and what good is this card for?

                                    • 56. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                      Community Member

                                      Hi,

                                      I haven't googled the card to see if its possible, but sometimes you can

                                      upgrade ( add ) memory to the card.. I hope you find a good solution one way

                                      or the other. Maybe you can return the card and get a refund and get another

                                      card that works OK ?  Sorry you're having trouble with this...

                                      • 57. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                        Dave_Gish Community Member

                                        baron jorel wrote:

                                         

                                        Then, can someone tell me why I spent the money on a Quadro FX-1800

                                        ???

                                         

                                        baron jorel wrote:

                                         

                                        and what good is this card for?

                                        http://completed.shop.ebay.com/i.html?LH_ItemCondition=12&_nkw=Quadro%20FX-1800&LH_Complet e=1

                                        • 58. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                          Jeff Bellune ACP

                                          Did you read the supported cards list before you bought the card?  Did you read the system requirements?  If not, why not?  If so, then why did you choose that card?

                                           

                                          -Jeff

                                          • 59. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                            baron jorel Community Member

                                            I followed Video Guys suggestions and they recommended the FX-1800 because, according to them worked with PPro CS5 and Win 7 64bit, which is what I have. I also called them to ask why not another card, a Radeon, for instance, and they told me about CUDA. That was last year. since then, they have updated their info and changed their specs for their "dream" (my word, not theirs) workstation.

                                             

                                            In any case, I work a lot on PS CS5 and the card seems to be doing its job.

                                             

                                            However, I don't understand, given the amount of  FX-1800 out there, why Adobe can't do a patch to recognize this card.

                                            • 60. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                              Harm Millaard Community Member

                                              For the simple reason that it does not have enough memory.

                                               

                                              Why did you buy it in the first place? I think because you went for it based on information from VideoGuys or other sources that related to CS4, not CS5+. Because your information was out of date at the moment of purchase and you did not check whether that was still accurate. Nobody to blame but yourself.

                                              • 61. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                Jeff Bellune ACP
                                                I followed Video Guys suggestions and they recommended the FX-1800

                                                I think you have a legitimate beef with Video Guys.  Point them to info in this forum, in the system requirements for CS5/CS5.5 and ask them to explain to you why they recommended that card.  If you bought the FX-1800 from them, insist on getting your money back or on getting a replacement card that *does* meet minimum specs.

                                                 

                                                -Jeff

                                                • 62. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                  baron jorel Community Member

                                                  Unfortunately, I didn't get the card from them and their comment to my questions a few hours ago was "it's an old card." Does Pontius Pilate come to mind?

                                                   

                                                  The folks at Nvidia did say that the card uses CUDA and everything else that PPro CS5 throws at it, except the Mercury engine - again, software related.

                                                  • 63. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                    Community Member

                                                    videoguys are a family run business with nothing but the best information and intensions to help people get what they need to meet their needs. I personally recommend them for all solutions to editing platforms and information about adobe premiere pro editing software and other platforms. Similar to the way these guys do, but without the entire build of platform

                                                     

                                                    http://www.adkvideoediting.com/

                                                     

                                                    Nothing here suggests there is anything "wrong" with what videoguys have done to satisfy this issue here...and I suspect the customer didn't do his homework and didn't  ASK the videoguys what would WORK with the specs the customer had at the time.  I would maybe not be so fast with pointing fingers of " BLAME" here....

                                                     

                                                    and try to solve the problem... eg. call videoguys and explain your problem to them and let us know what the outcome of that is so we can all benefit from the solution you find , OK ?

                                                     

                                                    thanks

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    • 64. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                      Community Member

                                                      It's nice that they responded to your question about the card and your

                                                      problem isn't it.  Even though you didn't buy the card from them, I mean ?

                                                      People here will help you figure out the solutions to your editing problems

                                                      even though they didn't " sell " you the card either.  And the pros here

                                                      will not assume the retailer you implicated but did not buy from is at fault

                                                      either.

                                                      If you need more help finding a better card, and maybe trading yours in for

                                                      another, please let us know... or do some searching here...as there have

                                                      been a lot of threads about what works well....

                                                      Good luck and hope you can trade that card in etc

                                                      • 65. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                        Jeff Bellune ACP
                                                        videoguys are a family run business with nothing but the best information

                                                        Except in this case, wouldn't you say?

                                                         

                                                        -jeff

                                                        • 66. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                          Harm Millaard Community Member

                                                          Hard to judge when nobody saw the link, the context in which it was written, the version it referenced, the date it was posted, etc.

                                                           

                                                          Once upon a time the FX1800 was a very good card for CS4 and I can imagine VideoGuys recommended it at that moment in time. But to extrapolate those recommendations to also include CS5 is another matter.

                                                           

                                                          FYI, Gary from VideoGuys does a tremendous job with his hardware guides and does not recommend anything that he does not stand behind for 100%. But, technology progresses and what was utterly true x months ago can be shown to be the worst investment today. All that is of course hindsight and it applies to a lot of my articles as well (I need to update those ).

                                                           

                                                          From the info I got from this thread, my conclusion in post # 60 still holds unless proven otherwise.

                                                          • 67. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                            Dave_Gish Community Member

                                                            baron jorel wrote:

                                                             

                                                            Unfortunately, I didn't get the card from them and their comment to my questions a few hours ago was "it's an old card."

                                                            Yes, it's an old card: only 64 CUDA cores, and only 768 MB of the slower GDDR3 RAM.

                                                             

                                                            baron jorel wrote:

                                                             

                                                            The folks at Nvidia did say that the card uses CUDA and everything else that PPro CS5 throws at it, except the Mercury engine - again, software related.

                                                            Yes, just like Windows has minimum hardware requirements.  In fact, most software you buy has minimum hardware requirements.

                                                             

                                                            In the case of the Mercury Playback Engine, the minimum requirements for the video card seem to be:

                                                            1) At least 1 GB of video card RAM.

                                                            2) For good performance, the video card RAM should be GDDR5, not the slower GDDR3 type.

                                                            3) For good performance, at least 96 CUDA processing cores.

                                                             

                                                            As an example, here's a card with 192 cores and 1 GB of the faster GDDR5 RAM for only $99 (after rebate):
                                                            http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125341&cm_re=gts_450-_-14-125-341 -_-Product

                                                            just edit the cuda_supported_cards.txt file as described here:

                                                            http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

                                                            and it works great with the Mercury Playback Engine.

                                                            • 68. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                              baron jorel Community Member

                                                              So let me ask you this. With my system Win7 64 bit with 12 GRam and a Raid 0 assembly, and given that I use PS, Indesign and Illustrator (all CS5), would you trade the FX-1800 for a GTX 470?

                                                              • 69. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                Dave_Gish Community Member

                                                                baron jorel wrote:

                                                                 

                                                                So let me ask you this. With my system Win7 64 bit with 12 GRam and a Raid 0 assembly, and given that I use PS, Indesign and Illustrator (all CS5), would you trade the FX-1800 for a GTX 470?

                                                                The GTX 470 has 448 CUDA cores.  The FX-1800 has 64 cores.  In other words, the GTX 470 is MUCH more powerful than the FX-1800.

                                                                 

                                                                I'm not sure how much difference it will make in the apps you list though.  I mainly use Premiere.  Keep in mind that CS5 uses both the CPU and GPU (graphics processor) to get the job done, and certian types of tasks split the workload differently between the two types of processors.  To see how much of the CPU and GPU you use in your typical work, download the NVIDIA system monitor tool here:

                                                                http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia_system_tools_6.06.html

                                                                This shows CPU and GPU usage in real time, as well as disk and memory usage.  That's the best way to find the weakest link in your system for your specific type of work.

                                                                 

                                                                Also, if you decide to go with the GTX 470, make sure your system's power supply will handle it.  You'll need at least a 550 watt power supply to run the GTX 470.  The FX-1800 only requires a 450 watt power supply.

                                                                 

                                                                Hope this helps.

                                                                • 70. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                  baron jorel Community Member

                                                                  Helps a lot. Thank you.

                                                                   

                                                                  Peter

                                                                  • 71. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                    Videoguys Community Member

                                                                    we offer tons of FREE advice and system recommendations on our website. Some of them are general, while others are specific Since CS5 launched we have gone out of our way to not only specify which graphics cards to use, we have also supplied links to articles on 'hacking' the Mercury Playback Engine for older cards. We initially did this becuase the GTX460 card was not supported in CS5, but with the hack provided phenomenal Mercury performance.We did not and do not recommend the QuadroFX1800 for the Mercury Playback engine. It does not have enough CUDA cores or RAM.

                                                                     

                                                                    Note: I have to give props to the guys over at ADK for pointing out the hack for the GTX cards on our old user forums. Unfortunately these forums are no longer active, our provider went out of business.

                                                                     

                                                                    This is from the our old CS5 Production Premium page, under the system recommendations tab & from our Get a Better Editing Workflow when You Make the Switch to Adobe CS5 Production Premium Guide from last fall:


                                                                     

                                                                     

                                                                    Videoguys System Recommendations for Adobe CS5 Production Premium

                                                                    The new CS5 version of Adobe Premeire Pro requires a  64-bit operating system, a multi-core processor, plenty of RAM and a  fast GPU. We realize that you may need to upgrade your machine. Here is  the base system specs that Videoguys recommend that will give you  excellent performance and optimized Mercury playback.

                                                                    • http://www.webvideoguys.com/images/mac-tiny-15h.pngMac Snow Leopard 10.6.3
                                                                    • Intel based Quad Core Processor or faster
                                                                    • At least 6 GB RAM but 12 GB is even better!
                                                                    • GTX285;  Quadro FX 4800MAC, Quadro4000MAC

                                                                    • http://www.webvideoguys.com/images/icon_windows_7.pngWindows 7 64-bit
                                                                    • Intel Quad-Core Processor or faster
                                                                    • At least 6 GB RAM but 12 GB is even better!
                                                                    • GTX285,  GTX460 w/ 1GB* ; GTX 470; Quadro FX 3800/4800/5800, Quadro 4000/5000

                                                                    * Although Adobe CS5 officially only supports a  handful of GPU for the mercury playback engine, we have provided links  on our blog to articles that show you how to enable MANY other nVidia  cards for Mercury.

                                                                     

                                                                    I'm sorry if you purchased the WRONG graphics card from another vendor. I do not see why this is Videoguys fault. If you had purhased the card from us we would offer you a full refund within 30 days. Which is our standard customer satisfaction guarantee. If you had called us to order it on  he phone, and you told us it was for CS5, we would have told you to get the Quadro 2000/4000 or a GTX470/570.

                                                                     

                                                                    Gary

                                                                    • 72. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                      Jeff Bellune ACP

                                                                      Gary,

                                                                       

                                                                      Thank you for taking the time to reply.  It's clear now that it was the user who either mis-read the info on your site, or chose to ignore it (for whatever reason).

                                                                       

                                                                      -Jeff

                                                                      • 73. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                        Community Member

                                                                        Gary at Videoguys ,

                                                                         

                                                                        Thanks for the clarification and links etc. Should prove helpful to a lot of people.

                                                                        Have you been in touch with megaplayground yet ? It's a new post place in NYC expanding quickly. I think their site is megaplayground.com ( and think they have an international presence as well as NYC ).

                                                                         

                                                                        PM me and I'll give you a contact name there if you want. Might be a good client for you ?

                                                                         

                                                                        Rodney Bauer

                                                                        • 74. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                          screeen Community Member

                                                                          Hi Todd.

                                                                           

                                                                          I am new to PC machines, have been editing for appr. a decade on a Mac in Final Cut, and am currently in the throes of building a new PC, to use with Classic Collection.

                                                                           

                                                                          The video card – Palit GTX560TI 2GB – is under consideration for this build, yet it is not on Adobe’s list of GPU acceleration supporting cards (though the Palit representative emailed me that it does support CUDA technology, but has not shown me proof beyond his own claim).

                                                                           

                                                                          It has been suggested to me that this card can be hackd to enable GPU/CUDA, but because of my (current) ineptness with PCies, and with programming at all, I lack the know-how to do that. I am more than willing to learn, and so, before making my final decision on the card, I would like to verify that I will be able to hack it as such, and was wondering if  you or anyone could advise me how to do that.

                                                                           

                                                                          I have been looking at threads relating to my question, and it seems that there are folks using GPUsniffer.exe which is causing issues rather than helping.

                                                                           

                                                                          Thanks. And please excuse me if my terminology is wrong, as i am fully new to hardware speak.

                                                                          • 75. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                            Dave_Gish Community Member

                                                                            First, the "hack" works perfectly on the right graphics cards.  In fact, it's not a hack at all.  The main issue is that Adobe can't test hundreds of cards.

                                                                             

                                                                            Second, go to this site, and read everything:

                                                                            http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

                                                                             

                                                                            Third, spend $25 on a 1 month subscription to lynda.com, and then watch the 2 videos that relate to performance here:

                                                                            http://www.lynda.com/Premiere-Pro-CS5-tutorials/new-features/59975-2.html

                                                                             

                                                                            Remember that the Mercury Playback Engine stresses the CPU, GPU, hard drive(s), and memory, so make sure the whole system is up to the task.

                                                                            • 76. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                              screeen Community Member

                                                                              thanks a million Dave. am already at the video guys article, and will look at the lynda movies, and hopefully return w/more educated questions:)

                                                                              • 77. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                                Todd_Kopriva Adobe Employee

                                                                                The word "supported" is one that people throw around loosely a lot, but here's where it really matters:

                                                                                 

                                                                                If you attempt to make it so that a card other than one of the "supported" cards uses the CUDA processing features, then you forfeit your access to support from Adobe. That's me. I can't be chasing down issues that turn out to be because you're using hardware that we haven't tested thoroughly and certified to work.

                                                                                 

                                                                                So, you're on your own if you use the "hack".

                                                                                 

                                                                                This isn't to say that we won't provide technical support for you as long as you use the same card without the "hack", of course.

                                                                                 

                                                                                Regarding the recommendation of the Lynda videos on performance: They're brief and somewhat out of date. I recommend these:

                                                                                http://www.video2brain.com/en/products-115.htm

                                                                                ... and not just because I made them. They're also free.

                                                                                • 78. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                                  screeen Community Member

                                                                                  Thanks Todd. I will look at the tutorial for sure. As for uisng Adobe recommended hardware, can you

                                                                                  help me determine if the card i am looking to buy is or is NOT certified to work with Adobe?


                                                                                  I am looking at the Palit GTX560TI 2GB, have been corresponding with the very patient Palit support team, who have even mailed me images showing that CUDA technology is supported, see below, however the card is not on the Adobe list - http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html

                                                                                   

                                                                                  The card has 384 CUDA cores, lots of them (http://www.nvidia.com/object/product-geforce-gtx-560ti-us.html), so, does that mean it supports/is supported?

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                                                                                  • 79. Re: Mercury, CUDA, and what it all means
                                                                                    Todd_Kopriva Adobe Employee

                                                                                    > As for uisng Adobe recommended hardware, can you

                                                                                    help me determine if the card i am looking to buy is or is NOT certified to work with Adobe?


                                                                                    I am looking at the Palit GTX560TI 2GB, have corresponding with the very patient Palit support team, who have even mailed me images showing that CUDA technology is supported, see below, however the card is not on the Adobe list - http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html

                                                                                     

                                                                                     

                                                                                     

                                                                                     

                                                                                    You said it yourself. The card is not on the list.