11 Replies Latest reply on Apr 6, 2011 10:01 AM by _durin_

    Can we get a more recent beta?

    donaldhorton.voices.com Newcomer

       

       

      Hi Adobe,

      First thanks for providing the November 9 beta release (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_audition). I'm having a problem with the "adaptive noise filter" . Can you please  provide a more recent release?

       

      Equipment:

      OSX 10.5.8

      Macbook pro, 4GB ram

      Apogee Duet

      Harlan Hogan vo:1-a mic

       

      Here is the problem:

      * Please listen to AuditionNoise-NoProcessing.mp3 This is the original background noise with  no processing. I turned up the gain to get a large waveform. By the way, when I export (File > export > multritrack mixdown > entire session), why does audition add 7 seconds of silence at the end?

       

      * The file AuditionNoise-AdaptiveNoiseReduction.mp3 has the  "Adaptive Noise reduction"  (Light noise reduction preset)  added. *If you listen closely, around the 2 second mark you start hearing what sounds like tires screeching*.  I heard  the sound during real-time playback, but I thought it was because the effect was "CPU intensive" (as indicated by attached warning). But even after the export, I still hear the sound.

       

      Any help would be much appreciated.

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      Donald Horton

       

      Voice Actor | Demo on voices.comSan Mateo, California


        • 1. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
          donaldhorton.voices.com Newcomer

          Audition also crashes pretty regularly for me. Could one of the Adobe support folks in this forum please  provide me with an email address where  I share my  crash data. I'm not sure if it's safe to paste it here.

           

          thanks

          Donald

          • 2. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
            Charles VW Champion

            donaldhorton.voices.com wrote:

             

            Here is the problem:

            * Please listen to AuditionNoise-NoProcessing.mp3 This is the original background noise with  no processing. I turned up the gain to get a large waveform. By the way, when I export (File > export > multritrack mixdown > entire session), why does audition add 7 seconds of silence at the end?

             

            In case you have a reverb effects or something in the session.   This way we won't cut off the reverb tail.

             

            donaldhorton.voices.com wrote:

             

            * The file AuditionNoise-AdaptiveNoiseReduction.mp3 has the  "Adaptive Noise reduction"  (Light noise reduction preset)  added. *If you listen closely, around the 2 second mark you start hearing what sounds like tires screeching*.  I heard  the sound during real-time playback, but I thought it was because the effect was "CPU intensive" (as indicated by attached warning). But even after the export, I still hear the sound.

             

            Looking at the type of noise in the file, it doesn't seem to be changing over time (at least not on the example you supplied).   You'd be better to double-click on the clip to go into the Editor View and take a noise print, and then use the regular noise reduction effect (not available in the Multitrack).

            • 3. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
              donaldhorton.voices.com Newcomer

              Hi Charles,

              Thanks for your response.

               

              1. Can we please  get a more recent beta that fixes any bugs since the November 9th release. I don't see the disadvantage for adobe since users will have to buy the software when it launches anyway. And the advantage is that users will no longer report bugs that have already been fixed.

               

              2. Is the November 9th beta crashing frequently because I'm running OSX 10.5.8. That is, will upgrading to 10.6.6 fix my crashes or make it worse?

               

              3. I don't add reverb to my audio. So how do I prevent the 7 seconds of silience added at the end during an export.

               

               

              thanks

              • 4. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
                Charles VW Champion

                donaldhorton.voices.com wrote:


                1. Can we please  get a more recent beta that fixes any bugs since the November 9th release. I don't see the disadvantage for adobe since users will have to buy the software when it launches anyway. And the advantage is that users will no longer report bugs that have already been fixed.

                 

                 

                We'll make an announcement on this forum and elsewhere if anything else comes out.

                 

                 

                donaldhorton.voices.com wrote:

                 

                2. Is the November 9th beta crashing frequently because I'm running OSX 10.5.8. That is, will upgrading to 10.6.6 fix my crashes or make it worse?


                 

                Hard to say without looking specifically at your crash reports.   Are you including your email address in the crash reporter application?   If so, I could probably do a specific search for them to see which crashes you're referring.   Generally, we've found stability improvements when going to OSX 10.6.x so I don't think it should make it worse.

                 

                donaldhorton.voices.com wrote:

                 

                3. I don't add reverb to my audio. So how do I prevent the 7 seconds of silience added at the end during an export.


                 

                Unfortunately, there's no way to do this in the Mac public beta right now.

                • 5. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
                  donaldhorton.voices.com Newcomer

                  Hi Charles,

                  Thanks again for your responses.

                  2. Yes, my email address in the crash reports. I don't want to post my email address on this public  forum , so could you provide your support email so I can contact you directly with my  crash report ?  Here is a recent crash report : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yu5tI1twkAUQlm48n7pNXr_d9iUK4j5geZ7EoTwqrWM/edit?hl=en &authkey=CNaPtZED

                  3. Will there be a way to remove the trailing silence when audition is released? What is the best tool/app on the mac  to remove the silence now?

                  thanks

                  • 6. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
                    _durin_ Rockstar

                    You can email files or crash reports directly to audbugs@adobe.com, or submit them in the Adobe Crash Reporter.  Adobe has also just announced that there will be an announcement on Monday, April 11th that will give complete information about Audition's upcoming release.

                    • 7. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
                      donaldhorton.voices.com Newcomer

                      Thanks so much for your responses.

                       

                      Charles, since my background noise is consistent, what is the best "noise reduction effect" to apply to an entire TRACK? I'd trying to avoid having to apply noise reduction to each clip or to each wav file.

                       

                       

                      3. Will there be a way to remove the trailing silence when audition is released? What is the best tool/app on the mac  to remove the silence now?
                      thx

                      • 8. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
                        ryclark Rockstar
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                        donaldhorton.voices.com wrote:

                        3. Will there be a way to remove the trailing silence when audition is released? What is the best tool/app on the mac  to remove the silence now?
                        thx

                         

                         

                        You have it already, Audition for the Mac. Just reopen the file in Waveform view and chop off the silence. Then resave.

                        • 9. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
                          _durin_ Rockstar

                          I believe the "Delete Silence" tool was also available in the Public Beta.  Look in the "Diagnostics" window and select "Delete Silence" from the "Effect" dropdown.  you'll want to open the Settings area and adjust the duration to a length appropriate for the length of silence you're seeing.

                           

                          If it's a consistent duration of silence, you could record a favorite to accomplish this.  Basically: Start recording your favorite, reverse the file, select the first x seconds, delete, reverse, stop recording the favorite.  You can then apply this favorite in the Batch Processing window to any group of files.

                          • 10. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
                            donaldhorton.voices.com Newcomer

                            Thanks for the solutions for the silence.

                             

                            Last question (which was really my first question): since my background noise is consistent, what is the best "noise reduction effect" to apply to an entire TRACK? I'd trying to avoid having to apply noise reduction to each wav file.

                            • 11. Re: Can we get a more recent beta?
                              _durin_ Rockstar

                              If all the clips on a track were from the same recording/source (so that the background noise is consistent between all the clips) then you could capture a noise print from a region with no other audio content, then apply the Noise Reduction (process) effects as a Batch process to all the clips.  If they come from different sources or the nature of the noise changes significantly between different source files, you might need to use this approach but using a different noise print for each cluster of files recorded together.

                               

                              Adaptive might work, but as you've experienced, it tends to adapt to new background noises more than overall noise patterns.  (For example, if an air conditioner kicks on during an interview, Adaptive NR is better suited to recognizing and filtering this sort of interference.)

                               

                              If the noise is most apparent during regions of silence, careful use of the Dynamics Processing effect can reduce signals below some threshhold to minimize that noise.