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1. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
BobLevine Apr 8, 2011 6:11 AM (in response to phyllisj9)No...you will not use InCopy, the editor will. You will export content from InDesign.
And yes, Anne Marie's videos on InCopy workflow on Lynda will get you headed in the right direction.
Make sure InDesign and InCopy are both updated to 7.0.3
Bob
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2. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
phyllisj9 Apr 8, 2011 6:30 AM (in response to BobLevine)Okay thanks. So it makes no difference if I don't have a copy of InCopy? I don't know if they bought enough licenses, though I'll bug them to get another one just so I can learn it.
I'll get the updates. Wish I could run the installer myself but always have to go through i.t. (sigh)........
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3. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
BobLevine Apr 8, 2011 6:38 AM (in response to phyllisj9)You do not need InCopy and the editor does not need InDesign. That's the beauty of it.
Bob
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4. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
phyllisj9 Apr 8, 2011 6:46 AM (in response to BobLevine)Nice! Of course something tells me I'm the one they'll come to with questions about how to use InCopy....
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5. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
P Spier Apr 8, 2011 7:36 AM (in response to phyllisj9)Bob's the InCopy expert here, but you also asked bout moving from CS4 to CS5.
For an extra margin of safety, it would probably be a good idea for any CS4 files that you want to convert to export them to .inx in CS4, then open the .inx in CS5 and save as new .indd files or new .indt templates, and don't overwrite the old ones. Porbably 99% plus of CS4 files will convert directly without a problem, but every once in a while somebody reports an issue with a file they converted, and it often doesn't show up until they've done days of editing and overwrtitten anything that could have been used for recovery. Converted .inx seems to be more reliable.
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6. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
phyllisj9 Apr 8, 2011 8:13 AM (in response to P Spier)Thanks Peter and Bob! Your comments are all very helpful!
Phyllis
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7. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
P Spier Apr 8, 2011 8:23 AM (in response to phyllisj9)Forgot to mention that the text engines are different from version to version. If you open a legacy file, the text will not reflow until you click in a frame, but if you open a .inx file it will all recompose when the file opens (which I think is a plus as it gets that out of the way and you know you need to examine the whole doc for new line breaks that might cause a problem).
Also, workspaces MIGHT transfer OK from one version tothe next, but shortcut sets will not and you'll need to rebuild those from scratch.
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8. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
phyllisj9 Apr 8, 2011 9:36 AM (in response to P Spier)Trying to put together my preferred setup. The first buggy thing I noticed is that character styles don't show everything in the Style Settings box (like I have a "No Break" style which shows nothing in the Style Settings box though the No Break box is checked and it's working). Is that a known bug?
Haven't had a chance to get I.T. to run an upgrade for me yet but hope to later today....
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9. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
BobLevine Apr 8, 2011 9:43 AM (in response to phyllisj9)Can you post a screen shot? Not sure I know what you're referring to.
Bob
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10. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
P Spier Apr 8, 2011 9:44 AM (in response to phyllisj9)I don't know of any bug similar to whatyou are describingh, but I'm not certain I know waht you're describing.
Are you saying you have a named style for No Break, and that that style is not showing as applied but the attributes are? Some screen caps, maybe? Are you sure the no break was applied as a style and not an override?
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11. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
John Hawkinson Apr 8, 2011 9:49 AM (in response to phyllisj9)I wouldn't switch to CS5 in a rush. You don't say how rush is rush, but...I would wait until you have a few days.
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12. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
phyllisj9 Apr 8, 2011 10:07 AM (in response to P Spier)Hey! I was referring to this screen (above). Usually, the Style Settings box shows me everything that's been applied. In this example, it doesn't show me that "No Break" has been applied under one of the other tabs. But the character style still works. Maybe it's just because I don't have the upgrade to .03 or whatever the version is yet.
Thanks, Phyllis
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13. Re: Upgrade to CS5 + InCopy!
BobLevine Apr 8, 2011 10:25 AM (in response to phyllisj9)You must update to 7.0.3. There were some pretty serious ID/IC workflow bugs in 7.0.0.
Bob





