9 Replies Latest reply: Jun 2, 2011 4:46 PM by nefl777 RSS

    Create chapter index 'set name from link' is not working.

    nefl777 Community Member

      Hi guys, I have tried to implement the 'create chapter index' feature. I created my menu template with 12 chapter buttons. each button has the attribute "set name from link'.  however, when the set of menus was created, their bullets were not renamed. they remained the name I gave them which was "CH 1".

       

      Looking in the Layers tab, I see each one named CH 1 and underneath that entry is the actual name of the chapter so the 'layers' part seems to have some of the information.  but the actual menus created do not, so it appears I have to go in and edit each bullet.

       

      I tried 2 times. the first time all I had set was 'set name from link'. the second time i also clicked 'sync button text and name'. but nothing got renamed.  I'm using CS5.

       

      do you think this is a bug? is there something I have missed?

       

       

       

      thanks !

      nancy

        • 1. Re: Create chapter index 'set name from link' is not working.
          Bill Hunt CommunityMVP

          Nancy,

           

          There is a feature, Sync Button Text and Names. The default setting was ON, but as of about CS3, or CS4, that was changed to OFF. Look in the Button Properties Panel (you need a Button, or Buttons Selected). Is the checkbox checked or not.

           

          As I do not create Menus & Buttons from Index, there might be some aspect that I am either missing, or just not aware of.

           

          Let us know if the Sync Buttons... helps get what you want.

           

          Also, do you have Photoshop? One can do a lot of editing of Button Layers (including their official name, plus their Text) in PS.

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: Create chapter index 'set name from link' is not working.
            nefl777 Community Member

            thanks Bill for the reply!

             

            The 'create chapter index' is so important to me because I have 36 chapter points and if the menus got created easily it would be a huge help.

             

            I do have photoshop and do use it occasionally. I'm not really great at it.

             

             

            The button "syn button text and name" was checked.  shall I uncheck it?

             

            I tried it 2 ways: 1.   "sync button text and name" AND "set name from link" checked

             

            and then

             

            2.  just "set name from link" checked.

             

            both did not result in the names being changed.

             

            nancy

            • 3. Re: Create chapter index 'set name from link' is not working.
              Bill Hunt CommunityMVP

              Nancy,

               

              As I do not do Chapter Indices, I cannot offer much in the way of help here. With the 36 Chapters, I can see the wisdom of letting it do the Menus for you. I create all Scene Selection Menus by hand, so will manually name each Button, and edit the Text Layers myself, to reflect where they will Link.

               

              Maybe Jeff, Stanley, or another person, can address your question directly. Sorry that Sync Name... did not get you what you wanted. Thought that it was worth a try though.

               

              Good luck,

               

              Hunt

              • 4. Re: Create chapter index 'set name from link' is not working.
                Stan Jones CommunityMVP

                I also do not use these, but I recall playing with this related to some question and thinking it behaved oddly.  Same thing this time; then it worked, and I can't get it not to work.

                I suspect that you (and I) did not have the two options set correctly ("Sync button Text and Name" and "Set Name from Link").  They both should be selected.  Sync ON and Set name OFF appear to be the defaults in CS5, Neither is discussed in the help file on this topic.

                 

                Try this in your current project, and if it doesn't work, try it in a brand new project.

                 

                In your current project, delete all of the scene menus previously created by create index, so you have only your template.  Select each chapter button and make sure Sync and Set Name are ON for each.  Make sure all of your chapters are named.  Make sure the main menu is linked to the submenu (both ways).  LInk the first button to the first chapter.  Do the name OF THE BUTTON and the TEXT on the screen below the button change?  If not, it is probably not going to work.  If so, try creating the index.

                 

                If you do the new project test, use the Sunset Submenu in the General library set, and delete so you have only 3 chapter buttons.  Use one short timeline and add so you have a total of six buttons.  Name each of the six chapters.  As indicated above, select each of the buttons and make sure Sync and Set name are on etc.

                 

                Let us know.

                • 5. Re: Create chapter index 'set name from link' is not working.
                  nefl777 Community Member

                  Just wanted to update everyone on my chapter naming issues.

                   

                  As I said in my post, I had 36 chapters in my project so I created the menu template with 12 entries on it - with the goal that the resulting project would have 3 scene menus with 12 chapters each.  I had clicked "set name from link", set each button to be a Chapter, added one Previous button, one Next button, and one Menu button onto this menu. Then, I hit "create chapter index".

                   

                  I found a super video on how to do it all here:

                   

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgi-fi_o2CQ

                   

                  I did indeed get 3 menus with scenes. Only the 2nd and 3rd menu had the correct chapter names.  Menu 1 did not. It retained the original names that I assigned (CH 1).  That meant I had to go in and manually edit that menu and change 12 button names.

                   

                  Another thing that went wrong was on menu 2 and 3, the Previous button was placed in the line of chapter buttons, and where the Previous button was supposed to be was a chapter.

                   

                  I guess things just aren't completely debugged yet. I'm happy that 2 menus got built right (almost) and the scene pointers were correct.  My project is building right now and I'm hoping it is finished with no glitches.

                   

                  Thanks for all your help, guys!

                   

                  NEF

                  • 6. Re: Create chapter index 'set name from link' is not working.
                    Stan Jones CommunityMVP

                    Yes, nice tutorial.

                     

                    His response to the comment on that page suggests that he thinks the issues may be the same: getting both sync and name set before the operation.

                    • 7. Re: Create chapter index IS working if you use standard buttons
                      nefl777 Community Member

                      Hi all,

                      Just wanted to relate what happened in my quest to build menus using "create chapter index".  (new user here)

                       

                      I originally created the chapter buttons using TEXT and then setting the property 'button' and to 'chapter'. This is how another editing software had behaved before that I used so that is why I implemented buttons that way, versus dragging a button from the library to my menu like I should have. So these chapter entries did not originate from the button libraries.  They were text made into buttons.

                       

                      Using these text buttons, the create chapter index cmd only worked on the 2nd and 3rd menus in creating the right names, but did not change the names on the first menu. I did have "sync button text and name" AND "set name from link" clicked.  In addition, these text buttons DID create the correct chapter links, fyi.

                       

                      Using standard buttons from the library, create chapter index cmd worked like a charm!!  LOVE IT.

                       

                      I guess you could say the above is a test case to be submitted to the developers. Oh well.  Bottom line, I'm really impressed with this methodology and being able to know it's going to work. After all, one huge reason I bought this software was to be able to be super flexible with the content of menus and not run into limits too often.

                       

                      so, thanks to everyone for their input.  I am wondering if a moderator could edit the title of my original post to reflect that it is working but with this restriction of the text buttons.  thanks gang!

                      • 8. Re: Create chapter index IS working if you use standard buttons
                        Stan Jones CommunityMVP

                        Glad you got it working!

                         

                        I was unable to recreate the problem.  New menu.  Typed text.  Selected it and used "convert to button."  Set the button property to "Chapter," and added "Set name from link" (Sync Button Text and Name was already set.)  Duplicated two times, for a total of 3 buttons on the menu.  Added menu button and linked.  (Did not add prev/next.)  Six chapters on timeline.  Linked button 1 to chapter 1 of timeline (name immediately changed).  Created index.  Both submenus - original and new one created - had correct names.

                         

                        I originally created the chapter buttons using TEXT and then setting the property 'button' and to 'chapter'.

                        I see how "chapter" can be set by property.  DId you change a property to get "button" (if so how?), or did you use Object - > Convert to button?

                        Thread titles rarely get changed just because a different conclusion is reached.  What is import is for a searcher to find this thread if they have a similar problem.  And they would.

                        • 9. Re: Create chapter index IS working if you use standard buttons
                          nefl777 Community Member

                          hi stan,

                          thanks for trying to replicate the problem. oh well.  I think one difference bt the two of us is - I was trying to create 2 menus off the template... maybe that added to the complexity?

                           

                          and to answer your question:

                          "...I see how "chapter" can be set by property.  DId you change a property to get "button" (if so how?), or did you use Object - > Convert to button?"...

                           

                          yes that's how I modified the text to be a button.

                           

                          thanks!