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1. Re: CS5.5
mytaxsite.co.uk Jun 24, 2011 8:37 PM (in response to Cindy-)I don't think it is a good idea to go by somebody's review or people's comments because you are likely to come across in red corner people who are pro Adobe die-hards and in the blue corner people who are Adobe bashers at any costs. You should try the product yourself for 30 days free of charge and if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it.
I suggest download a free trial version and install it on your Mac or Windows and use it for 30 days. After 30 days, you can decide whether you are buying a problem or a real solution!. You are an experienced developer so you must have come across people of all colors and views.
Hope this helps.
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2. Re: CS5.5
Cindy- Jun 24, 2011 9:58 PM (in response to mytaxsite.co.uk)Thanks for the reply. Does it install independently and can I remove it entirely should I want to without interfering with my other versions?
I used to be a die-hard Adobe fan for years but I have not been too fond of them for about the last 3. I think that is why I skipped getting the Design Suite last year. So I do understand people in different corners.
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3. Re: CS5.5
mytaxsite.co.uk Jun 24, 2011 10:02 PM (in response to Cindy-)Absolutely. It is installed in its own folder and can be uninstalled in the normal way. Like with all Adobe products, all versions are installed in their own folders. MX2004, CS3, CS4 CS5, CS5.5 etc etc.
In fact I have all versions of DW from MX2004, CS3, CS4, CS5 and CS5.5 ===> all on my same windows system. I am sure on Mac systems it is the same.
hth
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4. Re: CS5.5
MurraySummers Jun 25, 2011 4:43 AM (in response to Cindy-)Cindy, when you say "less bloat" what do you mean? How do you detect 'bloat'? I'm just curious....
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5. Re: CS5.5
Cindy- Jun 25, 2011 8:59 AM (in response to MurraySummers)Well let me see Murray. There are these mornings I just don't quite want to get out of bed. The world looks glum. I can hardly move. Everything seems hard. 3 cups of coffee still don't work. And then there are the mornings birds are singing, all is right and it's great to be alive.
What a dumb question. Confrontational too. Just about everyone knows what bloat is in software. The fact that CS3 runs better in Rosetta than CS4 does native. That's bloat. It really has nothing to do with the question about CS5 now does it? You take something out of context to make an issue out of? I don't think its curiosity.
Either you want to be helpful or you don't. If you don't then why are you talking?
Do try not to get your ego all in a flap. I know you are the resident "expert". I just don't consider your response helpful on any level. If I hadn't looked I would have thought some jerk kid was asking the question.
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6. Re: CS5.5
RJweb Jun 25, 2011 9:46 AM (in response to Cindy-)Wow, tough on Murray, he is just asking a question, The man is an expert on web development.....
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7. Re: CS5.5
Al Sparber Jun 25, 2011 10:19 AM (in response to Cindy-)Hi Cindy,
I know how frustrating this business can become but since I've known
Murray for about 14 years, I just wanted to say that I think you've
misunderstood his post. The Dreamweaver community does has acquired some
nasty folks over the past couple of years, but Murray is one of the
kindest, nicest people I've ever met.
--
Al Sparber - PVII
The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets
Since 1998
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8. Re: CS5.5
Cindy- Jun 25, 2011 10:35 AM (in response to Al Sparber)I apologize to Murray. It just rubbed me the wrong direction. I guess he caught my frustration with this particular forum and I'm sorry. I have used Adobe software for many years and this forum has been the most difficult for me as a Mac person.
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9. Re: CS5.5
MurraySummers Jun 25, 2011 11:05 AM (in response to Cindy-)Thanks guys for the support!
I was just curious specifically what was being referred to as "bloat". I haven't really encountered anything in 5.5 that I would refer to as bloat and was wondering what it was that triggered this characterization.
Using DW nearly 24x7, I find 5.5 has lots to love - code completion, code hints, introspection, support for some third-party frameworks, mobile queries, and so on. But it may not be someone else's cuppa tea. That's were the trial comes in. And to repeat sage advice already given, the trial is a completely independent installation.
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10. Re: CS5.5
Cindy- Jun 25, 2011 11:14 AM (in response to MurraySummers)Thanks Murray. I will download the trial.
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11. Re: CS5.5
mytaxsite.co.uk Jun 25, 2011 2:41 PM (in response to MurraySummers)I was just curious specifically what was being referred to as "bloat". I haven't really encountered anything in 5.5 that I would refer to as bloat and was wondering what it was that triggered this characterization.
Some of us are still using P III (P3 not even P4) machines with 512MB Ram and these machines cannot be upgraded anymore because the limits on motherboard has already reached and getting a new MOBO is simply not possible because the case won't accept the new versions where connections are all over the place.
This being the case, 5.5 is very slow and one would need a ton of patience to work with it.
My 2 pence worth.
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12. Re: CS5.5
SnakEyez02 Jun 25, 2011 3:48 PM (in response to mytaxsite.co.uk)DWILCOX01 wrote:
I was just curious specifically what was being referred to as "bloat". I haven't really encountered anything in 5.5 that I would refer to as bloat and was wondering what it was that triggered this characterization.
Some of us are still using P III (P3 not even P4) machines with 512MB Ram and these machines cannot be upgraded anymore because the limits on motherboard has already reached and getting a new MOBO is simply not possible because the case won't accept the new versions where connections are all over the place.
This being the case, 5.5 is very slow and one would need a ton of patience to work with it.
My 2 pence worth.
This post came out of nowhere. DW CS5.5 won't run on a P3 and if you are running a P4 with 512mb of ram that is the minimum requirement for DW so it's not so much a case of bloat there, but if you try to run any application at the minimum requirements it will be slow. That system would even have some trouble with Office 2010 with the low amount of RAM. Because the last P4 by Intel was in Jan-06 ( http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/quickreffam.htm#P4 ) I would say it's time for an upgrade. Five years for computers is a long time to stay on the cutting edge of graphics and web development.
This isn't to say there is no bloat in DW. Is there bloat, quite possibly. It's a project that's been around for ages and the cost to rebuild it from scratch probably would not make economical sense for Adobe. There are deprecated features that can still be installed ( http://forums.adobe.com/message/3297909#3297909 ) as well as code that many feel could be updated, and maybe to some the features added to support Wordpress, Joomla and Drupal within DW can be seen as bloated. But in this case I have to agree with Murray, I don't feel that there are any major slowdowns in DW because of this. In case you want to know the specs of my computer (MBP - 2.8ghz C2D, 4GB).




