11 Replies Latest reply: Nov 29, 2011 8:38 AM by Bart Cross RSS

    how to remove proof lettering off photos

    catherbear Community Member

      Hi my son was married in vegas, now out of work, sample photos have vegas stamped all over them, If they charged a reasonable price I would purchase but they are charging silly money, how can I remove these,

        • 1. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
          c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

          If you seek advice on how to violate copyrights this is not probably a good place to start.

          After all these Fora are maintained by Adobe and that company cannot want to be party to that.

          • 2. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
            Gernot Hoffmann Community Member

            Now I'm wondering whether the reply of the German Shepherd was really a correct

            answer, as marked by some unknown authority.

             

            I would be grateful for any hint, why removing a printed mark in a low-resolution

            preview print for private purposes should be illegal.

            Please understand me correctly  - I'm not asking for personal opinions, but for

            case studies,  real examples.

             

            Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

            • 3. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
              c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

              Now I'm wondering whether the reply of the German Shepherd was really a correct

              answer, as marked by some unknown authority.

              I feel obliged to take exception to being called German.

              I’m no shepherd either, but whatever …

               

              As for the »Correct Answer«-tag I don’t know who assigned it either and my post certainly was not a direct answer to the original post but concerned what I consider proper Forum-conduct and was certainly not intended to insult.

              • 4. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
                Community Member

                Gernot Hoffmann wrote:

                 

                ...I would be grateful for any hint, why removing a printed mark in a low-resolution

                preview print for private purposes should be illegal...

                That private usage that you suggest is often referred to as 'fair use'. Assuming that we are in the US, there is solid law behind this:

                http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html

                 

                The OP's usage would not fall under factor #4 as it is the clear intent not to pay the photographer's price, which is the only source of income for the photographer. The photographer is not likely going to sell the pictures to strangers to recover their cost for production. The only way the photographer makes money is from the private, direct sale to the customer and/or the customer's family/friends. It is not fair to cheat the photographer from their work. The OP is not proposing 'fair use' that is protected under US law.

                 

                The sales agreement between a photographer and a subject is already for private usage so one cannot assume any more private usage that could be considered for free 'fair use'.

                 

                This entire topic is odd. What happens in Vegas is supposed to stay in Vegas. There are not supposed to be pictures.

                • 5. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
                  Gernot Hoffmann Community Member

                  Marian,

                   

                  thanks for the juridical background.

                   

                  Perhaps one has to consider the question, whether the photographer and the 'subject'

                  really have a sales agreement. The photographer may have made the photos without

                  having been commisioned with the production.

                   

                  Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

                  • 6. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
                    Noel Carboni Community Member

                    If you want the images for any purpose, then buy them. Simple as that.

                     

                    Do not consider illegally removing watermarks digitally.  Laws are not things to be ignored on a whim.  They're here to protect everyone.  Would you have the photographer come steal something from you personally in return?  That would lead to a hell of a lousy world, wouldn't it?

                     

                    If you're just too cheap to pay the asking price for images of your son's wedding, then just delete them and imagine they were never taken in the first place.

                     

                    Can we assume you neglected to pay for your copy of Photoshop as well?

                     

                    -Noel

                    • 7. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
                      John Waller CommunityMVP

                      sample photos have vegas stamped all over them, If they charged a reasonable price I would purchase but they are charging silly money, how can I remove these,

                       

                      Can you show us an example of what a typical photo looks like?

                       

                      What do you mean by reasonable price and silly money?

                      • 8. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
                        catherbear Community Member

                        Mr Carboni I am 73yrs of age, did buy photoshop but still have ni=o idea how to use it, most prob never will, before you come up with snide answers you should know personal circumstances, I wanted one photo, my son is not interested, sorry i even bothered,obviusly looking at your number of posts you have nothing better to do than call other people over, well if that makes you happy, fair enough, have a nice xmas , hoope your turkey burns

                        • 9. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
                          Noel Carboni Community Member

                          catherbear wrote:

                           

                          Mr Carboni I am 73yrs of age, did buy photoshop but still have ni=o idea how to use it, most prob never will, before you come up with snide answers you should know personal circumstances,

                           

                          I know of no personal circumstances that justify stealing, however helpless or pitiful you may have become.  As an OF who knows better, you should be doubly ashamed to be asking publicly about how to perform an illegal act...  Becoming defensive about having done so says what about your morals, exactly?  What examples are you setting for younger folks?

                           

                          If you could afford to buy Photoshop you can afford to buy a photo or two.

                           

                          -Noel

                          • 10. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
                            Community Member

                            Gernot Hoffmann wrote:

                             

                            ...Perhaps one has to consider the question, whether the photographer and the 'subject'

                            really have a sales agreement. The photographer may have made the photos without

                            having been commisioned with the production...

                            Are you seriously suggesting this? How would a photographer get the proofs to the client without being commissioned to shoot them? Did a random photographer show up uninvited to your wedding and then hunt down your home address later to send you samples? The idea is silly.

                             

                            It is noble to defend the possibility of fair use but this topic is clearly not fair use. The OP knew this was a proof. They did not want to pay the photographer. There is no guessing here. One could not be more certain that this is not fair use.

                             

                            Perhaps a more affordable photographer can be hired for the next wedding.

                            • 11. Re: how to remove proof lettering off photos
                              Bart Cross Community Member

                              There are several ways to do this: clone stamp, healing brushes, working in channels etc, but be advised that the copies you have with 'proof' on them are still lower resolution versions and you will never get an adequate result that you would be proud of to show your family & friends.