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1. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
Steve Grisetti Nov 30, 2011 8:39 AM (in response to TRUE_SEEKER)Was this project created in version 10 or in an earlier version of the program?
Version 10, in my experience, saves rendered files, even if you close and re-open a project. Saving rendered files was a problem in versions 8 and 9.
What are your project specs? What format is your video and what kind of camcorder did it come from? What is your operating system?
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2. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
TRUE_SEEKER Nov 30, 2011 9:23 AM (in response to Steve Grisetti)The original footage was loaded into Premiere Elements 10.
My operating system is Windows System 7 Ultimate 64 bit & my computer is a Dell 720 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz with 8Gegs of memory.
The initial video was given to me as an AVI file, I do not know the make of the Camcorder.
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3. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
Steve Grisetti Nov 30, 2011 9:45 AM (in response to TRUE_SEEKER)Open the AVI file in a program like Media Info and see what the specs are for codec, frame rate and resolution.
Also, have you ensured you installed the 64-bit version of the program and that you have the latest version of Quicktime?
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4. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
stihlchainsaw Nov 30, 2011 11:41 AM (in response to TRUE_SEEKER)Here's what I've experienced:
When I open up a previously rendered project in Pre 10, I have to make myself wait ... wait ... wait.
In the timeline view, every clip that has been previously edited, rendered, and saved will initially show red. Then, clip by clip, thumnail by thumbnail, the rendering line turns green clip by clip as the saved file remembers itself. It really doesn't take all that long, you just have to be a little patient.
If you don't wait, and start working in the project before it completes rebuilding the green rendered line, you'll have to re-render from scratch.
If you wait till everything turns green, you're good to go. Of course, any further editing will require aditional rendering (only to those clips that have been modified or added).
I never had this problem in Pre 8 or 9. But Pre 10 is so much faster and more efficient in all other respects. It's worth the wait!
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5. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
Robert J. Johnston Nov 30, 2011 12:16 PM (in response to TRUE_SEEKER)In PRE10, clips with the Stabilizer effect that have been rendered and saved will need to be rendered again when you open the project up again. I haven't encountered any other situations where that happens. In PRE8 and PRE9 there are other situations.
What effects did you apply to the clips that need to be rendered again? Is there overlaying media on other tracks, and if so, what type of media is it, image? text? video?
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6. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
TRUE_SEEKER Dec 1, 2011 5:39 PM (in response to Robert J. Johnston)I uninstalled and reinstalled both Photoshop elements 10 and premiere elements 10 to make sure that was not the problem.
I waited for the previously saved project to come up for an hour and still most of the project did not render as complete.
I then checked to see if the stabilization utility was set and it was.
I guess that's my problem, but to have to re-render a complete project time and time again because of the common function is set I believe is an engineering
flour, I will have to live with.Is there any way that I can file an official comment with Adobe about this animality or do you think the issue has already been raised with Adobe?
Thanks you all for your help, which was a valuable in resolving this issue.
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8. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
Robert J. Johnston Dec 1, 2011 10:03 PM (in response to TRUE_SEEKER)Quite awhile ago I purchased the superior Prodad's Mercalli stabilizer, which works in various video editors including Premiere Elements 10. That's what I use for stabilizing video. When you render a preview with Mercalli, the preview file isn't lost when you save the project. NewblueFX also has a stabilizer, but it doesn't work in PRE10 now.
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9. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
TRUE_SEEKER Dec 2, 2011 9:08 AM (in response to Robert J. Johnston)The price tag of $245 for the Prodad's Mercalli video software is too steep for me right now. In the future, I will try the following strategy: run the edited video with stabilization, but without any other titles, music, etc. to produce AVI file. Then use the stabilized AVI file as the initial video file to which I will add the titles, music, etc. This way when I open the project after being saved the project will remain rendered.
Again, thank you for all your help.
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10. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
nealeh Dec 2, 2011 9:55 AM (in response to TRUE_SEEKER)TRUE_SEEKER wrote:
The price tag of $245 for the Prodad's Mercalli video software is too steep for me right now.
Corel's Avid VideoStudio Pro X4 Ultimate (what a mouthful) includes Mercalli SE. It was on sale at half-price on Amazon Black Friday and I missed it - mostly because I was trying to find out what the 'SE' part of it meant.
Annoyingly (very much so) it seems that Mercalli SE is pretty much the whole deal - a YouTube review of the Mercalli feature in VideoStudio by ProDAD (the Mercalli authors) included all the features I would expect to use.
So it seems that the $80 VideoStudio product includes the $150 Mercalli plug-in. Thus a workflow starting with Mercalli stabilisation in VideoStudio and then switching to PRE is viable. I can't really afford the full price VideoStudio product so I'm hoping for a similar 50% reduction after Christmas.
Cheers,
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Neale
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11. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
Bill Hunt Dec 2, 2011 9:58 AM (in response to nealeh)Neale,
Quick question, and really tangential to the thread, but you mention:
Corel's Avid VideoStudio Pro X4 Ultimate
Has Corel bought AVID, makers of the AVID workstations, several AVID NLE programs, plus owners of Pinnacle?
Just curious,
Hunt
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12. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
nealeh Dec 2, 2011 11:14 AM (in response to Bill Hunt)I guess so - the Avid VideoStudio software range is the 'Pinnacle' product successor.
[Edit] Just checked - it's full name is "Corel VideoStudio Pro X4 Ultimate" - I think only on the Black Friday offer I saw it advertised as 'Avid VideStudio etc...)
Cheers,
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Neale
Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children -
13. Re: Pe10: opening a previously saved and rendered project, the work area indicates non-rendered sections
Bill Hunt Dec 2, 2011 11:41 AM (in response to nealeh)Ah, maybe a typo in that ad. While I had not heard of Corel acquiring AVID, stranger things have happened.
I'm on the Corel e-mail list, and they usually tout major changes, but I had not seen anything - could have missed it, while in the air.
Now, not that long ago, Corel did acquire much of Ulead's portfolio, and that did contain VideoStudio (along with an older 3D program).
Thanks,
Hunt




