15 Replies Latest reply: Mar 19, 2012 7:20 AM by the_wine_snob RSS

    Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?

    A.T. Romano Community Member

      The Premiere Pro CS5 Supported Video Project file formats include:

       

      PREL (Adobe Premiere Elements project) (Windows Only)

      http://help.adobe.com/en_US/premiere...a568-8000.html

      and we know that the Premiere Elements project file is a project.prel.

       

      Yet if you read the Premiere Elements 10 ReadMe, you see there the statement:

      "You cannot import Adobe Premiere Elements 10.0 project into Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 or CS 5.5.".

      http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/907/cpsid_90745.html

       

      The Premiere Elements 9.0 ReadMe has a similar statement about its prel file and Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5.

      http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/863/cpsid_86324.html

       

      I am wondering if the person who wrote that into the ReadMe forgot to add "for Mac".

       

      Can anyone with both Premiere Elements 9.0/9.0.1 or 10.0 AND Premiere Pro CS5 or CS5.5 (all Windows) confirm what is written in the ReadMe for these version? I do not have Premiere Pro (any version) to confirm and refute what is written in those ReadMe and am looking for someone who has been there and looked at that.

       

      Thanks for any input on this matter.

       

      ATR

       

       

        • 1. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

          I cannot verify that your stated versions will Open (or Import) properly into PrPro CS 5.5, but can say that PrE 4.0 Projects (PREL files), will Open, or Import, into PrPro CS2.

           

          Now, there are some aspects of PrE, that will not translate: Themes, Instant Movies, New BlueFX (unless one has those for PrPro in 64-bit), Some Effects, etc.

           

          Otherwise, the PREL's should Open, or Import, nearly perfectly.

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
            cnelson711

            Yes, that portion of the ReadMe forgot to add "for Mac".

             

            I had a project in Premiere Elements 10 (Windows).  I tried unsuccessfully to open the .prel file on a Mac in Premiere Pro 5.5.  However, if you open the .prel file in Premiere Pro 5.5 on a Windows machine and save it as a Premiere Pro 5.5 project file, you can open the converted Windows Premiere Pro 5.5 project on a Mac with Premiere Pro 5.5.

             

            This works:

            Elements 10 Windows -> Premiere 5.5 Windows -> Premiere 5.5 Mac

             

            This does not work:

            Elements 10 Windows -/-> Premiere 5.5 Mac

            • 3. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
              A.T. Romano Community Member

              cnelson711

               

              Thank you very much for sharing the important workflow information on the question about support for Premiere Elements project.prel in Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5.

               

              Also, I have brought your comments to the attention of the users at another Premiere Elements Forum that I frequent.

               

              Your follow up was much appreciated.

               

              ATR

              • 4. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                Martin_Sprengel

                I have an identical Problem with one big project. This means I should be able to solve it by installing a test version of Premiere Pro, load, save and then transfer it to my mac? Will my Elements 10 be still "alive" after Installing and uninstalling PremierePro ?

                • 5. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                  the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                  One PrPro user just replied to a similar THREAD in the PrPro CS 5.5 Forum, that one cannot do that on a Mac, but only on the PC. From A T Romano's info above, it seems that the PREL Import/Open is for Windows only.

                   

                  Being a PC-only person, I cannot even test this.

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                    A.T. Romano Community Member

                    Hunt

                     

                    Good morning.

                     

                    I have a question regarding the core of Martin_Sprengel's question and how each of us read the question.

                     

                    My involvement in this has been to seek the answer to the question regarding importing Premiere Elements projects into Premiere Pro CS5 or earlier. I am strictly a PC Premiere Elements user. So it was with interest that I read the cnelson711 post (#2) in this thread for his first hand experience on this matter.

                     

                    But, I did not read Martin_Sprengel post going to that specific aspect of the matter. Rather I read his post as going to the classical question of what happens to the integrity of other programs (in this case Premiere Elements) when the user reinstalls and subsequently uninstalls Premiere Pro. My recollection is that this is a frequent concern which is sometimes if not always addressed with one of those "clean tools" created for the purpose of cleaning out left over files.

                    http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cscleanertool.html

                    I am not sure if the clean tool is restricted to tryout version.

                     

                    ATR

                    • 7. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                      Martin_Sprengel Community Member

                      Hi Bill & A.T.,

                       

                      sorry for not being sufficiently precise. Maybe this is due to writing something not in my native tongue quickly between two procedures in the operating theatre...

                       

                      My issue is that I have a quite big project (AVCHD 1080i footage) that I processed on my Win7(x64) System under PremiereElements 10 and just recently bought a MacBook and CS5.5. What I would like to do is transfer the project to my CS5.5/Mac to make use of its extended capabilities. Therefore I am planning to install Premiere Pro on my Win7 System, load the .prel file, save it as .prproj and then transfer it to my Mac, as suggested by cnelson above. What I am not sure about is: will my Premiere Elements Installation survive the Installation and subsequent Uninstall of Premiere Pro ?

                       

                      Thanks for your replies

                       

                      Martin

                      • 8. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                        A.T. Romano Community Member

                        Martin_Sprengel

                         

                        Thanks for verifying that your question addressed:

                        "....will my Premiere Elements Installation survive the Installation and subsequent Uninstall of Premiere Pro ?" All this being done on Windows 7.

                         

                        I cannot give you a first hand answer on that, never been there and done that. From what I read, I believe problems could exist and that may be the reason for Adobe's creation of "Clean Tools" for the tryout of Premiere Pro CS5.

                         

                        Frequently you hear suggestions about setting a System Restore point before making certain changes in the computer. But caution, that suggestion has "back fired" on me more than once, and the claim that System Restore is "reversible" did not prove the case completely and reinstalls of one or more programs were necessary after the System Restore. Proceed with caution.

                         

                        Since I believe Hunt has both Premiere Elements and Premiere Pro installed on a Windows computer, I am hoping that Hunt can give us some insights into the question involving Windows 7...integrity of already installed Premiere Elements when tryout of Premiere Pro CS5 is uninstalled.

                         

                        We will be watching for your progress.

                         

                        Thanks.

                         

                        ATR

                        • 9. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                          ATR,

                           

                          I am still using XP-Pro SP3 on all of my active machines. I am also using PrPro CS2 Production Studio, and PrE 4.0 on only my laptop. I have the recent versions of both PrPro and PrE, but am waiting for my 64-bit Win7 laptop to be built (hang up with Cleveo MoBo's, to be resolved by about May).

                           

                          When I installed PrE 4.0, it DID break the full CS2 suite, but by that point, Adobe knew of the issue, and had done a KB on the problem. In my case, just doing a Repair Install for each program in the CS2 suite, did the trick, and both programs have run, side-by-side for many years, without a hiccup. However, I have NOT uninstalled any of those Adobe programs, so cannot comment on what might go wrong.

                           

                          Usually, Adobe programs coexist well. However, PrPro had an issue with CS3 and CS4. If one had both PrPro CS3 and CS4 installed on the same computer, then uninstalled CS3, it took some necessary "pieces" of CS4 with it. Again, the "trick" was to do a Repair Install for CS4, and all was fixed. I have not read of any other, such issues, but they might have just gone unreported, or reported in forums, that I do not frequent.

                           

                          Wish that I had more to offer, especially regarding PrPro CS 5.5 and PrE 10. I just have not explored those programs, yet - late May?

                           

                          Good luck,

                           

                          Hunt

                          • 10. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                            Martin_Sprengel Community Member

                            I successfully installed CS5.5 (Evaluation) on my machine. PrE 9.0 is still working. This Issue is settled so far, I believe. See what happens when I remove the CS5.5 Eval...  The purpose of the whole thing is to transfer a big project from PrE9.0 to CS5.5... I finally managed to load a .prel project into Premiere Pro, but first I get this warning:

                             

                            ********************************

                            \\?\C:\Users\Martin\Documents\Adobe\Premiere Elements\8.0\Australia 2011 PrPro.prel

                            Videofilter fehlt:  AE.ADBE AutoKeyer

                            Videofilter fehlt:  AE.ADBE ObjectTracking

                            ******************************

                             

                            and the original sequence of clips is listed among the used media in the left upper tab, has the "sequence" icon as opposed to the clip or audio icons, but cannot be dragged into the the timeline to edit the sequence. With a right-click on the sequence, I am offered a "generate sequence out of clip" option (sorry if I do not use the correct terms since I use a german version). This newly generated sequence (same name, same icon) now displays in the editing timeline, but is one big sequence, no cuts, no tags. Is there any mistake I made ?

                             

                            thanks

                             

                            Martin

                            • 11. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                              Martin_Sprengel Community Member

                              Er.... Please dont think I had some too many of the bad stuff, but just after posting the above message, I once more imported a .prel file, saw the sequence and frustratedly double clicked on it like a dozen times before and - - it would smoothly load and present in the timeline. No markers, but I don't care. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

                              • 12. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                                Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

                                Please note that you should not be "importing" a .prel file into a project.

                                 

                                A .prel IS a project file. You open project files by selecting File/Open.

                                 

                                You import media files into a project using the Get Media tools.

                                 

                                Confusing those two functions can definitely lead to problems.

                                • 13. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                                  Martin_Sprengel Community Member

                                  @ Steve,

                                  thanx for the hint, you are certainly right. I DID NOT import anything, I used File/Open. Unfortunately, I cannot see why my previous attempts have falied... The only remainder of my PrE 9 editing is a warning of a AE.ADBE Video Filter missing, which has no adverse effects that I would know of.

                                  • 14. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                                    the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                    Glad the you found the Dbl-click to Open a PrPro Sequence as a Timeline. PrPro has Sequences, which are like mini-Projects, within a main Project.

                                     

                                    Not sure about the first warning that you got, but Motion Tracking is not supported in PrPro, so that could not be used, when you transfered your PREL to PrPro.

                                     

                                    The same thing would have happened, if you had Instant Movie/Themes, or had any of the NewBlue FX Transitions, or Effects used.

                                     

                                    Good luck,

                                     

                                    Hunt

                                    • 15. Re: Can Premiere Elements 10.0 or 9.0/9.0.1 Saved Project.Prel be Imported into Premiere Pro CS5/CS5.5?
                                      the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                      Thank you for reporting your partial success. That is what I had anticipated, but did not have all necessary to test.

                                       

                                      For people, wishing to migrate a contemporary PrE Project into a contemporary version of PrPro, if the Project is simple (no Instant Movie/Themes, no 3rd party Effects or Transitions, and none of the non-supported Effects from PrE), they are likely to have pretty good luck, thouogh there could still be little glitches, or operations missing.

                                       

                                      When the PREL is Opened, or Imported into PrPro, their Timeline will appear as a Sequence in the PrPro Project Panel. Dbl-clicking on that should open it as a Timeline in PrPro.

                                       

                                      Just be aware that not everything will likely translate, as PrE has some different Effects (not necessarily 3rd party), Transtions, and other features, that are just not supported by PrPro.

                                       

                                      Appreciated,

                                       

                                      Hunt