19 Replies Latest reply: Jul 1, 2015 7:39 AM by sandeecohen RSS

    [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File

    [Jongware] MVP

      A CS4 & upwards compatible script -- if anyone dares to try it out in a lower version, please do so. It pops up a standard file dialog where you can select any file, and the script will dive into it and see what version of InDesign it was last saved with.

       

      Download the zip from my website: identify.zip -- unpack, and put "IDentify.jsx" to the folder where you put all of your User scripts.

       

      Things it does

      It shows the file name, file type (as stored in the file), and version of InDesign files from InDesign version CS up to CS5.5 (tested). It does not work for ID 1.0, 1.5, 2.0. It may not work for versions after CS5.5.

       

      Things it doesn't

      It does not open the newer files in your old CS3.

      It does not identify IDML files (nor anything else, by the way, than InDesign files).

      It does not Fix Your Broken Files.

      Written using CS4, so it may or may not work on older or newer versions.

       

      Things I won't

      "Upgrade" it to actually open the newer files in your old CS3.

      Explain how it works.

      Unobfuscate to make it clear how it works.

      Respond to Private Mail inquiries of how it works.

        • 1. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
          Eugene Tyson MVP

          Thanks Jongware - that looks good. Not sure what I'll use it for.

           

          Where did the need for this come from though?

          • 2. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
            Peter Spier ACP/MVPs

            [Jongware] wrote:

             

            Things I won't

            "Upgrade" it to actually open the newer files in your old CS3.

            Aw. c'mon. What fun is that? <big wink>

            • 3. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
              [Jongware] MVP

              Eugene Tyson wrote:

               

              Thanks Jongware - that looks good. Not sure what I'll use it for.

               

              You must be working exclusively with the Very Latest Version.

               

              This is a tool for people who ask "why can't I open this file in my version of InDesign"; at least we can now unambiguously answer "because this file you got is newer, never mind what your client said."

               

              (Or we could but we don't have to because now people can find out for themselves.)

              • 4. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                cdflash Community Member

                this will certainly have a use in my office where i'm on CS3; a colleague has CS4; another colleague has CS5; and soon a different colleague will have 5.5. now when i receive a file i can't open (with no PDF supplied either) i'll know who i have to kick off of which machine!

                 

                assuming it works in CS3... haven't tested that yet

                • 5. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                  davidblatner ACP

                  I tested this in CS3 and it appears to work. Magic!

                  • 6. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                    dumpav Community Member

                    sorry where can i locate the User scripts folder in 10.6.8?

                     

                    and how should i launch the script?

                     

                    sorry, i am script newbie!

                     

                    thanks

                    • 7. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                      [Jongware] MVP

                      10.6.8 must be your OS version, because InDesign is not there yet. Neither is Windows, so (guessing again) you must be using Mac OS X? If you don't get a pop-up menu when you right-click your User scripts in the Scripting panel there may be something wrong with your computer or with InDesign (or possibly the right button on your mouse).

                       

                      Did you try the online help? It should direct you here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/indesign/cs/using/WS0836C26E-79F9-4c8f-8150-C36260164A87a.html

                       

                      You could also read http://indesignsecrets.com/how-to-install-scripts-in-indesign.php

                      • 8. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                        Mr. Met Community Member

                        Nifty script and works in 10.3.7 as well as CS5.

                         

                        Another useful Jongware script*

                         

                        * This is not a paid endorsement.

                        • 9. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                          katx11 Community Member

                          So I can open a CS5.5—with Soxy— and it will then script it and save as CS5.5 rather than auto open the IDD as CS 6? More clarification please.

                          • 10. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                            Peter Spier ACP/MVPs

                            All the script does is tell you what version of InDesign the selected file was saved in. It doesn't open it, save it, or do any other modifications.

                            • 11. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                              [Jongware] MVP

                              Kat clearly didn't read the "Things it Does Not" section

                              • 12. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                                lilia@ Community Member

                                [Jongware] wrote:

                                 

                                Kat clearly didn't read the "Things it Does Not" section

                                ...like it... i like the "Things I won't" section even more hahahaha...clearly a need to be told!

                                • 13. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                                  Tony722 Community Member

                                  Thanks Jongware. That was super helpful!

                                   

                                  Here is how to do the same kind of thing in C#:

                                   

                                   

                                  using System;
                                  using System.Linq;
                                  using System.IO;
                                  
                                  
                                  namespace InDesignWrapper {
                                    class VersionChecker {
                                      private byte[] InDesignFileHeader = new byte[] { 0x06, 0x06, 0xED, 0xF5, 0xD8, 0x1D, 0x46, 0xe5, 0xBD, 0x31, 0xEF, 0xE7, 0xFE, 0x74, 0xB7, 0x1D };
                                      private int byteOrderFlag;
                                  
                                  
                                      public string GetInddFileVersion(string filename) {
                                        var fileinfo = new FileInfo(filename);
                                        var stream = fileinfo.OpenRead();
                                        var reader = new BinaryReader(stream);
                                  
                                  
                                        var fileHeader = reader.ReadBytes(16);
                                        if (!fileHeader.SequenceEqual(InDesignFileHeader))
                                          return "Not an InDesign file";
                                  
                                  
                                        string fileType = new String(reader.ReadChars(8));
                                        byteOrderFlag = reader.ReadByte();
                                        reader.ReadBytes(4);
                                        var majorVersion = reader.ReadInt32(byteOrderFlag) - 2;
                                        var minorVersion = reader.ReadInt32(byteOrderFlag);
                                  
                                  
                                        return String.Format("CS {0}.{1}", majorVersion, minorVersion);
                                      }
                                    }
                                  
                                  
                                    static class BinaryReaderExtensionMethods {
                                      public static byte[] ReadOrderedBytes(this BinaryReader reader, int count, int byteOrderFlag) {
                                        if (byteOrderFlag == 2) return reader.ReadBytes(count).Reverse().ToArray();
                                        return reader.ReadBytes(count);
                                      }
                                  
                                  
                                      public static long ReadInt32(this BinaryReader reader, int byteOrderFlag) {      
                                        return BitConverter.ToInt32(reader.ReadOrderedBytes(4, byteOrderFlag), 0);
                                      }
                                    }
                                  }
                                  
                                  
                                  • 14. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                                    AnneMarie Concepcion ACP

                                    Jongware this is cool, but wondering if you could update it to show CC, CC 2014, and CC 2015?  (It reports things like "CC.next.next" and "CC.2" instead.)

                                     

                                    thanks!

                                    AM

                                    • 15. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                                      [Jongware] MVP

                                      AnneMarie, the shift from InDesign 1.0 and InDesign 2.0 to InDesign CS (which is "3") was already quite confusing (and in my opinion totally unnecessary) but at least Adobe managed to stick to this numbering scheme for ... wait for it: 6 versions!

                                       

                                      Alas: since InDesign CC the numbering has become totally unclear to me. The version number (which is what I read out of the document) can no longer be translated linearly into the name "CC", "CC 2014" or "CC 2015" – I don't know any longer what number should correspond to what name, and, possibly worse, I also cannot predict what the next version will be named. ("2016"? "CC 10"? "CD"?)

                                       

                                      It's just one of the cases where marketing decisions defeat common human (and computer) logic.

                                      • 16. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                                        davidblatner ACP

                                        While I agree that Adobe's naming is very confusing, I believe there is some logic to it. If you choose About InDesign from the InDesign menu (mac) or Help menu (Windows), you'll see that CC 2015 is version 11. CC 2014 was version 10. CC (which I call CC 2013) was version 9. Adobe seems to be releasing 2 additional versions per year, in October (a .1 sub-version) and then around February or March (a .2 sub-version).

                                         

                                        So version 10.2 could be called "CC 2014.2"... yes?

                                        • 17. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                                          BobLevine UGM-MVPs

                                          Whoa! Zombie thread walking the earth again.

                                           

                                           

                                           

                                          Seriously, though, I agree the whole naming thing is confusing to the average users. I wish I had a dime for every post that I had to respond to asking what version someone was using.

                                          • 18. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                                            [Jongware] MVP

                                            David, the problem is the main version numbering: if version 10 is "CC 2014" then the Secret Code is 'version + 2004'; and so version 11 should be "CC 2015". Likewise, a next major version would then logically be called "CC 2016". But at some point Adobe is going to release two major versions in the same year (unlikely, but stranger things have happened) or they are going to skip a year, and from that point on this system will no longer work.

                                             

                                            Jumps like Windows' numbering, from 3.1 to "95", "98", "2000", "ME", "XP", "Vista", "7", "8" and now "10" have always been equally confusing. The last jump, skipping "9", is actually because of a technical reason! Microsoft cheated earlier on with the detection of the "9x" variants by only checking the first decimal, and if it was a '9' it reported back '7'.

                                             

                                            (That said: I updated the script for the last two versions of ID. Will upload it to my site later.)

                                            • 19. Re: [Ann] Identify Your InDesign File
                                              sandeecohen ACP/MVPs

                                              David,

                                              There's actually a simpler problem.

                                               

                                              Go to the Adobe website and find a listing for InDesign. All it will stay is InDesign CC.

                                               

                                              Yes I know there are all sorts of things that say 2015 is here. But if I was downloading the software I would have no idea what version I I was about to use.

                                               

                                              Go to this page. There is no mention of 2015. You're just lost.

                                               

                                              https://www.adobe.com/downloads.html

                                               

                                              And not only that but the icons are identical for 2014 and 2015. Hence people pasting new desktop icons.

                                               

                                              I also believe that naming with the year is confusing. We spent 5 months of 2015 working with 2014 software. It makes the product look old.

                                               

                                              I'm not saying Adobe should name things CC Beagle, CC Poodle, or some other silly convention. But CC Gold. CC Silver. CC platinum. CC Titanium. Etc wouldn't be so bad and would actually help brand awareness.

                                               

                                               

                                              Sent from my iPhone

                                              So pardon the brevi