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1. Re: Resize stills
Stan Jones Nov 24, 2011 2:54 PM (in response to Polytrop)Resize them using a batch action in Photoshop.
Resize them to a size, not a filesize. If you are not applying any transitions, set them to the DVD size you are using (NTSC 720x480).
Encore's slideshow functions are often criticized, but what you are describing should work.
Your number of slideshows suggests you understand there is a limit of 99 slides per slideshow.
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2. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Nov 29, 2011 12:02 PM (in response to Stan Jones)Any suggestions on other slide-show applications? I like to use the teve set and the DVD-remote as a good old slide projector, stepping pictures back and forth but without interrupting the DVD soundtrack.
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3. Re: Resize stills
John T Smith Nov 29, 2011 12:18 PM (in response to Polytrop)>other slide-show applications
enter
slideshow software
then read reviews of the resulting software
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4. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Nov 29, 2011 12:50 PM (in response to John T Smith)Oh dear John T, are we not witty?
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5. Re: Resize stills
Neil Wilkes Nov 30, 2011 4:36 AM (in response to Polytrop)Polytrop wrote:
I have about 900 photos (4-6 MB each) and my plan is to create 9-10 slide-shows and link them together into a continuing show with at least 20 chapters. I am trying to find info on 1) how to reduce the size of the photos in a batch and 2) what MB-size that would be appropriate for a DVD-product. Any hints or links? Thank you.
I would do all of this in Premiere Pro, and export a sequence from there.
Ypu'll have far more control over the output this way.
What is the resolution & DPI of the original photos, please?
And are you in NTSC or PAL land
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6. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Nov 30, 2011 10:20 AM (in response to Neil Wilkes)Hi Neil,
I am in the PAL-area. DPI is 300*300 and the original size is 4928*3264.
I started in Premiere Pro, but never find out how to proceed. Are you suggesting I should start there with resized pictures and export the sequence(s)? to Encore?
Thanks.
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7. Re: Resize stills
Neil Wilkes Nov 30, 2011 10:33 AM (in response to Polytrop)Absolutely - for DVD-Video, you need 72DPI and no more than 720x576 pixels.
Resizing this lot in Encore will seriously tie it down, and may well fail.
I'd resize in Photoshop - start by dropping the DPI from 300 to 72 & see where that leaves it.
Should be more manageable from there.
Then resize, and bring the entire sequence (save as TIF files or BMP files when resizing) into P-Pro as an image sequence.
You can adjust from there as you need to with all the transitions & effects in the NLE.
Save out to DV AVI and import that file into Encore.
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8. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Nov 30, 2011 10:51 AM (in response to Neil Wilkes)Niel,
thanks a lot! I shall work on this. Are those steps documented anywhere? Cheers!
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9. Re: Resize stills
John T Smith Nov 30, 2011 12:19 PM (in response to Polytrop)Photo Scaling for Video http://forums.adobe.com/thread/450798
-Too Large = Crash http://forums.adobe.com/thread/879967
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10. Re: Resize stills
Ann Bens Nov 30, 2011 12:58 PM (in response to Neil Wilkes)Dpi has no meaning in video its the pixels that count.
DPI is for printing: dots/pixels per inch.
If one does not do panning and zooming 1050x576 square pixel will be just fine.
If one does do panning and zooming make the stills 2 the size.
You can leave them the original size but Premiere will have a hell of a time processing them.
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11. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Nov 30, 2011 2:48 PM (in response to Ann Bens)Ann,
a still resized to 1050*576 (from 4920*3264) will lose it´s proportional aspect ratio and look bad. Or is there anything particular with square pixels?
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13. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Dec 1, 2011 12:33 PM (in response to Ann Bens)Hejsan (Swedish for hi) Ann,
those are two screen-captures from PP 5.0.3
First, the asset, i e original photo (4928*3264) pixels and 4,6 MB file size. Of course, it would be a disaster to work with 900 stills of that format in PP or in an Encore sideshow.
Second capture is same picture resized in PS Elements 10.0 to the format (1050*576) pixels you recommended. It does not look good. What might be the issue?
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14. Re: Resize stills
Ann Bens Dec 1, 2011 12:53 PM (in response to Polytrop)Hallo (that is Dutch)
The first picture is not 1050x720.
What does it say in the top next to the little viewer in the Project window (PW) when you highlight the still in the PW
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15. Re: Resize stills
Giorgio1957 Dec 1, 2011 12:59 PM (in response to Polytrop)Hejsan to you also,
resize a picture does NOT mean you must give to the photo the same dimension of the project.
You MUST keep the proportion and, to do that, you'll probably had to cut a piece of the photo or, if you want to see the entire photo, you'll keep black stripes up and down, or right and left, depending by the original size of the photo.
Example:
you have a project 1920 x 1080 and a photo 3840 x 2000 (3840 is twice 1920 but 2000 is not double of 1080).
Well,
your definitive PROPORTIONED resize will be 1920 x 1000 or (approx) 2073 x 1080.
In the first option you'll have black stripes up and down (1000 is less than 1080)
In the second case you'll loose a piece of photo (left and right) because 2073 is larger than 1920.
I hope Ann will be agree.
Ciao
Giorgio
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16. Re: Resize stills
Ann Bens Dec 2, 2011 3:35 AM (in response to Giorgio1957)If you want stills full screen without distortion it means loosing the top and bottom of that still.
Stills have different dimensions as video does.
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17. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Dec 2, 2011 7:42 AM (in response to Giorgio1957)Hejsan Giorgio,
thanks for your comments. I agree it is a must to keep the original´s proportions. I know we have to cut and crop stills in order to make them look ok. I´m also aware of black borders. I think I must live with them in this project since I prefer the original aspect ratio.
Ciao / MAtts
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19. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Dec 2, 2011 8:28 AM (in response to Ann Bens)Hallo Ann,
you make a pretty good conclusion there, I guess. In my project, people who view the 900 stills in the sideshow will hopefully disregard the black frames to the left and right of each picture when all the pictures appear in a similar floating stream. One Q remains. To what proportional size do you think I should scale the stills?
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20. Re: Resize stills
Ann Bens Dec 2, 2011 8:37 AM (in response to Polytrop)Right, the still is scaled to 1050 not cropped, hence the distorted image.
Indead if you want the full still you end up with black border.
So back to square one: if you leave all your stills at original resolution, Premiere will have hell of a time processing them.
I would size them down to 1/4.
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21. Re: Resize stills
Neil Wilkes Dec 3, 2011 4:50 AM (in response to Ann Bens)Ann is totally right.
Also, despite the fact that DPI is for printing, not video, you will find that if you drop the DPI on the photos from 300 to 72 (for video) that will also resize them.....and maintain the correct proportions too. They will end up as 72 on the DVD regardless, so you might as well get them there right away.
That will take your pixel count to 1183x783, and if you keep the "Constrain Proportions" ticked in Photoshop & then scale that to 576 (if PAL), you will end up with a square pixel image of 870x576 in 2 simple steps.
Drop these into your premiere sequence, correct the PAR if required by interpreting the footage & off you go.
Hope this helps
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22. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Dec 3, 2011 9:50 AM (in response to Neil Wilkes)Neil,
most interesting, this DPI-track! Resizing in PP brought to new dimensions , most convenient. I must admit, I am not very familiar with Photo Shop; is it possible to make a batch process of/for (?) those two simple steps you mention for 900 pictures?
Why should I have to correct the PAR in PP? During the resizing in PS I assume the PAR of the originals will remain.
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23. Re: Resize stills
Ann Bens Dec 3, 2011 1:10 PM (in response to Polytrop)Batch resizing in Photoshop: watch tutorial.
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24. Re: Resize stills
Polytrop Dec 7, 2011 11:12 AM (in response to Ann Bens)Pretty informative video. Unfortunately PS Elements does not seem to have the batch capability. But free and excellent tool InfanView has.
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25. Re: Resize stills
Blue_Devil1 Dec 14, 2011 8:06 PM (in response to Polytrop)I don't have a recent PS elements, but in Photoshop, the best way to resize is to go to File - Script - Image size and use that. I suppose you could check and see if PS elements has the same commands.
John Rich
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26. Re: Resize stills
Bill Hunt Dec 16, 2011 8:21 AM (in response to Polytrop)PSElements does have automation. See the Reply by Neale (Reply 37) in this ARTICLE, where he goes through the steps.
Good luck,
Hunt
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27. Re: Resize stills
Bill Hunt Dec 16, 2011 8:25 AM (in response to Blue_Devil1)John,
Thngs are a bit different in PSE, but one kind soul, Neale, took the time to outline how things work in that program. I do not have PSE, so cannot test his workflow, but to date, no issues from users. That leads me to believe that it works.
Prior to the Image Script, I just used Actions and Automate to Batch. Have not explored the Script yet, but will, as I have been told that it is even better - my older version (CS 5 still sitting in box, until new computer shows up) did not have that Script.
Hope that the linked article above will help Polytrop get the Still Images batch Scaled in PSE.
Hunt
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28. Re: Resize stills
Blue_Devil1 Dec 16, 2011 12:47 PM (in response to Bill Hunt)Bill,
Sorry to be drifting away from the topic of the original poster. Here is a link that I posted a while back using Photoshop CS3. I was trying to use Andrew Kramer's technique for reszing JPEG's and it wouldn't work.
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2695285#2695285
I mistyped before ie I meant to say File - Scripts - Image Processor (not size). It works in CS5 also. Actually, one can select the JPEG"S in Bridge and then go to Tools - Photoshop and go from there.
Merry Chrismas,
John








