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    The new common forum

    Lundberg02 Community Member

      I am so irritated already by the forum's new habit of jumping to the most recent post that this common forum idea is probably the end of my participation.  I simply don't want to read through hundreds of Win subject lines to find something relevant to the Mac, or constantly open threads that turn out to be Win only. I have looked at it, but I am not happy. I'm stuck back at CS2, so many of the posts are not of any interest anyway. My plan to upgrade both computer and software is on indefinite hold until our new socialist man leaves office, and the new guy probably can't solve the problem either, so what's a boy to do?

        • 1. Re: The new common forum
          Chris Cox Adobe Employee

          "until our new socialist man leaves office"?

           

          Oh, I thought you were in the US. Where are you located?

          • 2. Re: The new common forum
            Jeff Schewe Community Member

            Lundberg02 wrote:

             

            I'm stuck back at CS2, so many of the posts are not of any interest anyway.

             

             

            Ya better rethink that position cause once CS6 comes out, you won't be able to upgrade to it from anything older than Photoshop CS5. Adobe has a 20% discount for the upgrade to CS5.x until Dec 31st.

            • 3. Re: The new common forum
              c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

              until our new socialist man leaves office

              Like Mr.Cox I would be interested to read what person and office you are referring to.

              • 4. Re: The new common forum
                Rick McCleary Community Member

                Drink some herb tea and go for a walk...

                • 5. Re: The new common forum
                  PECourtejoie ACP

                  Lundberg, in the new forum, we invite users to label their threads when their issue is system-specific, and moderators have been asked to do so.

                  The plus is that the threads that are not restricted to a platform, like design ones, will benefit of the knowledge of users of both sides, and IMHO, it will be good for the whole community.

                  Also, users that only visited one side, will learn stuff from the other one, and might help users from the other platform fix or at least troubleshoot their issues.

                  Photoshop is one of the last forums up here that has that platform split.

                  • 6. Re: The new common forum
                    azdawg99 Community Member

                    > in the new forum, we invite users to label their threads when their issue is system-specific, and moderators have been asked to do so.

                     

                    You can wish on a star all you like, it won't happen. Anyone who has been on forums for more than a day knows it.

                     

                    >Photoshop is one of the last forums up here that has that platform split.

                     

                    And the only one that still does it right. I don't care about Windows issues. The Lr forum is a perfect example. You never know what OS the person is using and always have to ask before you can help.

                     

                    I'm sorry, but Lundberg is 100% correct on this. When I saw the new forum I knew exactly what was coming down the road. It's just a matter of time before they merge the forums into one. Adobe never listened to the end-user before, I don't expect they'll start now.

                    • 7. Re: The new common forum
                      Lundberg02 Community Member

                      I live in the lawless tribal regions of Idaho.  We get fresh vegetables and news from the east since the railroad come.

                      There will be about 85% Windows only posts, I predict.

                      • 8. Re: The new common forum
                        Community Member

                        There's no need to "predict", Lundberg02.  The Photoshop forums were merged once before, and it was an absolute disaster.  That's why they were split again later.

                         

                        Now they're going to merge them again. As I wrote on the forums forum, morons don't learn from history.

                         

                        Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is one of the definitions of insanity.

                         

                        To be frank, I'm mildly amused. 

                         

                         

                        ____________

                        Wo Tai Lao Le

                        我太老了

                        • 9. Re: The new common forum
                          D Fosse Community Member

                          Well, all the scepticism I've seen so far seems to come from one side. If there is going to be a platform war, it will be pretty unilateral.

                           

                          I'm considering a new avatar to come clean right away:

                          peanuts.png

                          Don't worry, boys. It'll work out fine.

                          • 10. Re: The new common forum
                            c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

                            Well, all the scepticism I've seen so far seems to come from one side.

                            Ah, does it?

                            http://forums.adobe.com/thread/939197?tstart=30

                             

                            I live in the lawless tribal regions of Idaho. 

                            So you have a socialist governor there or what?

                            • 11. Re: The new common forum
                              D Fosse Community Member

                              Noel changed his mind quickly. And the others are only concerned with one thing: the risk of platform evangelism. Which indicates they have no need for it.

                               

                              Seriously: we're all here to learn. How can we do that if we seal ourselves off from half the user base, and refuse to have anything to do with them?

                               

                              We've always had lots of Mac users on the Windows forum. People like yourself, Buko (scandalously banned) and Phos±four dots, to name a few, all extremely helpful and open-minded. Then we had The Reverend Mark Reynolds, full of religious fervor. We got tired of that pretty quickly.

                              • 12. Re: The new common forum
                                Chris Cox Adobe Employee

                                > Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is one of the definitions of insanity.

                                 

                                No, I think the word you were looking for is "marketing".

                                • 13. Re: The new common forum
                                  c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

                                  So »Dilbert« represents the truth after all?

                                  • 14. Re: The new common forum
                                    Bo LeBeau Community Member

                                    D, Fosse,

                                     

                                    Those names are a blast from the past.

                                    Buko and others; along with some current contributors, may sometimes rub people the wrong way.

                                     

                                    The important thing is that most of them; past & current, know what they are doing and can provide helpful solutions.

                                    • 15. Re: The new common forum
                                      Lundberg02 Community Member

                                      Some Irish guy named O'bama is trying European Socialism in the US.  Our governor is a wind energy nut, but otherwise he's safely reactionary.  I show the same tendencies except for the wind energy thing, which a group of us have successfully stopped in its tracks by exposing the idiocy. I didn't know Buko was banned, what did he do, praise Corel Painter 11, which is finally fast enough to actually use?

                                      • 16. Re: The new common forum
                                        Community Member

                                        Lundberg02 wrote:

                                         

                                        …didn't know Buko was banned…

                                         

                                        …along with Phosphor±, Ann Shelbourne, Ramón G Castañeda, Laurentiu Todie, John Joslin (later un-banned but then deceased), et al.

                                        • 17. Re: The new common forum
                                          Community Member

                                          Chris Cox wrote:

                                           

                                          > Trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is one of the definitions of insanity.

                                           

                                          No, I think the word you were looking for is "marketing".

                                           

                                           

                                            ROFL !     

                                          • 18. Re: The new common forum
                                            c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

                                            Well, linguistically speaking I guess if enough people start using a word as an all-purpose slur devoid of its original and historical meaning that word will eventually take on that new meaning.

                                             

                                            But as a european I certainly have an outsider’s view on the issue of the current POTUS’ achievements and merits.

                                            • 19. Re: The new common forum
                                              Danny Michael Community Member

                                              >Ramón G Castañeda

                                               

                                              ...and later reincarnated as the man in the mask.

                                              • 20. Re: The new common forum
                                                Community Member

                                                Which is widely known.  The user ID, Tai Lao, means simply too old in Mandarin.  The signature, Wo Tai Lao Le, 我太老了, means I'm too old

                                                 

                                                My sporadical participation now will dwindle to practically zero as soon as the Photoshop forums are merged.  I read substantially less than half the posts as it is and reply to a small percentage of those I read.

                                                 

                                                Like Lundberg02, I won't be inclined to wade through a see of Windows-oriented posts.

                                                 

                                                 

                                                ____________

                                                Wo Tai Lao Le

                                                我太老了

                                                • 21. Re: The new common forum
                                                  Lundberg02 Community Member

                                                  Judging by some recent threads, insane asylums now have computers and internet. One more reason not to read the new forum.

                                                  • 22. Re: The new common forum
                                                    Community Member

                                                     

                                                    • 23. Re: The new common forum
                                                      Danny Michael Community Member

                                                      >My sporadical participation now will dwindle to practically zero as soon as the Photoshop forums are merged.

                                                       

                                                      My guess is most of us Mac users will fade away. Sigh, it used to be so much fun in here, then they banned everyone who made it a place to look forward to. Anyways, old news. Life goes on, even after a merge. It'll just go on elsewhere for me.

                                                      • 24. Re: The new common forum
                                                        Lundberg02 Community Member

                                                        Yeah, I miss the old gang. Ann is in the Nikon Forum I guess. I even miss That crazy guy with weird semi french name and the German expert I could not understand even when he wrote perfectly good English. Gerhardt Hofmann or something like that. I saved his stuff and was always going to try to figure it out.

                                                         

                                                        Anyway Merry Christmas everyone.

                                                        • 25. Re: The new common forum
                                                          Community Member

                                                          Lundberg02 wrote:

                                                           

                                                          …the German expert I could not understand even when he wrote perfectly good English. Gerhardt Hofmann or something like that

                                                           

                                                           

                                                          Prof. Dr. Gernot Hoffmann.  http://www.fho-emden.de/~hoffmann/

                                                          • 26. Re: The new common forum
                                                            Lundberg02 Community Member

                                                            Right. Gernot. He was obsessive about gamma and a few other things.

                                                            But who was the wacko who had his own color theory that everyone knew was crazy. He had some goofy short name like Tami or Niko or something like that. Also, gator soup is one of the old gang, too.    

                                                            • 27. Re: The new common forum
                                                              Jeff Schewe Community Member

                                                              Timo

                                                              • 28. Re: The new common forum
                                                                Lundberg02 Community Member

                                                                Yeah, Timo. What was his weird idea anyway? I can't remember, but he sure made everyone mad.

                                                                • 29. Re: The new common forum
                                                                  Jeff Schewe Community Member

                                                                  To use a linear gamma when doing image processing...which while not in Photoshop is the basis of the image processing pipelin of ACR/LR. Not, I might add because of Timo but Thomas Knoll thinking keeping linear raw capture linear through the processing was useful.

                                                                  • 30. Re: The new common forum
                                                                    Lundberg02 Community Member

                                                                    So, not so nuts, then? Is there a shortwinded discussion of using linear gamma somewhere on the net? Off hand it seems like it would be awkward.

                                                                    • 31. Re: The new common forum
                                                                      Lundberg02 Community Member

                                                                      No, skip it, it's the whole digital vs film  exposure thing, I know that. But it seems like Timo WAS nuts.

                                                                      • 32. Re: The new common forum
                                                                        Jeff Schewe Community Member

                                                                        Lundberg02 wrote:

                                                                         

                                                                        So, not so nuts, then?

                                                                         

                                                                         

                                                                        It was nutz enough when he was advocating taking an image that was already in a gamma 1.8 or 2.2 into linear gamma for editing in Photoshop. But that was really before digital capture in raw in linear gamma...big difference.

                                                                        • 33. Re: The new common forum
                                                                          Lundberg02 Community Member

                                                                          That's what I was thinking, Timo was a long time ago. I only remember that everyone thought he was out of his mind.

                                                                          • 34. Re: The new common forum
                                                                            Community Member

                                                                            azdawg99 wrote:

                                                                             

                                                                            ... I don't care about Windows issues...

                                                                            I don't care about Windows issues and I don't care about Mac issues. I come to a Photoshop forum to discuss and learn about Photoshop.

                                                                             

                                                                            As one that uses Photoshop on multiple platforms and pays attention to both the Mac and Windows forums, there is actually very little that is unique to a platform. If platform specific discussions are there, they have been easily ignored.

                                                                             

                                                                            There is a certain decline of the Photoshop forums and I don't think it is due to banning some of the 'old-timers' or any restructuring of the forum. The internet has simply changed. 10 years ago, a forum or mailing list was the best place to learn about new tools and techniques. Now we have very capable search engines to find information on demand, podcasts/news sites/bloggers to keep us up-to-date, and YouTube/Lynda.com for tutorials. That leaves the Photoshop forums mostly for new users to come to holler "my Adobe is broken".  There is little reason for a forum regular to care about what happens to the forum structure. We've already been shuffling toward the exit.

                                                                            • 35. Re: The new common forum
                                                                              azdawg99 Community Member

                                                                              >That leaves the Photoshop forums mostly for new users to come to holler "my Adobe is broken".  There is little reason for a forum regular to care about what happens to the forum structure. We've already been shuffling toward the exit.

                                                                               

                                                                              Amen

                                                                              • 36. Re: The new common forum
                                                                                Bo LeBeau Community Member

                                                                                . . . That leaves the Photoshop forums mostly for new users to come to holler "my Adobe is broken"

                                                                                 

                                                                                Marian, truer words were never spoken!

                                                                                • 37. Re: The new common forum
                                                                                  [Jongware] MVP

                                                                                  Think of the savings if *all* forums were merged under a single "Adobe" header!

                                                                                  • 38. Re: The new common forum
                                                                                    Community Member

                                                                                    [Jongware] wrote:

                                                                                     

                                                                                    Think of the savings if *all* forums were merged under a single "Adobe" header!

                                                                                     

                                                                                     

                                                                                    That is precisely what Adobe did to the international forums (German, French, Spanish, Japanese) where all the Adobe applications are lumped together by language into a single forum.

                                                                                    • 39. Re: The new common forum
                                                                                      [Jongware] MVP

                                                                                      哎哟!

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