16 Replies Latest reply: Dec 28, 2011 12:09 AM by Turgut Unal RSS

    GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion

    aeapaskjo Community Member

      I would like to look for a right video card for CS5.5 or new CS6 video editing only.  I looked at the requirement for my future new PC, but I need your help for providing me more information on the comparsion between GeForce GTX and Quadro.

       

      What does GTX have that Quadro does not have?

       

      What does Quadro have that GTX does not have?

       

      I would like for you to give me a chart on the difference between them like an outline comparsion or column comparsion.

       

      Also, what is the maximun of RAM memory for video editing?

       

      Thank you

        • 1. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
          Bill Gehrke CommunityMVP

           

          What does GTX have that Quadro does not have?

           

          What does Quadro have that GTX does not have?

           

          I would like for you to give me a chart on the difference between them like an outline comparsion or column comparsion.

           

          Also, what is the maximun of RAM memory for video editing?

           

          Thank you

          1. GTX has performance advantage for general video editing over Quadro
          2. Quadro has 10 bit output, but unless you have a monitor that properly supports 10-bit it will do you no good.

          I have never tested a Quadro, but here are my comparison charts of GPU's and a chart showing a few boards I have tested with CS5.5.

           

          GPU-Cores.jpg

          GPU-test-PPBM5.5.jpg

          There is no maximum RAM, there is a minimum for MPE to work it is (I believe)  896 MB or we typically round it off to 1 GB

          • 2. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
            JSS1138 Community Member

            If you don't need the 10 bit color of the Quadro (and most users probably don't), then here's the low down:

             

            GTX will offer better performance for less money.

            Quadro will offer less performance for more money.

            • 3. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
              aeapaskjo Community Member

              Hi Bill and Jim,

               

              Bill, thank you for providing 2 charts.   I appreciate that very much.

               

              Jim, thank you for answering on my post.

               

              Merry Christmas!.  

              • 4. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                aeapaskjo Community Member

                I look for more features between GeForce and Quadro.  Any idea if you can find, please let me know.

                 

                Thank you

                • 5. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                  Crist OC/PC Community Member

                  GTX$$$ & Quadro$$$$$$$$$$

                   

                   

                  If you are looking for improvising your performance first make your self next´s question´s:

                   

                  What processor do I have: AMD or intel? dual, Quad, Exa core...?

                  How much Ram do you have, HDD CONFIG, Overclocking, Cooling etc...

                   

                  Get the maximum of your pc before order a $$$$$$$ Video card.

                   

                  Gtx 580 can perform 80% of the quadro 5000?

                  ...but it always was vice versa...

                  quadros were always slower "viewpoint performance" but they're "for some reason" certified autodesk hardware... but for example the gtx295 is also certified.

                  the problem is now that there is a driver opengl performance problem reported by some people using the new 4xx series[ a great performance drop down in dcc apps...]

                   

                  The GTX580 has 512 cores, running at 772MHz, 1002MHz (Core/RAM)

                   

                  The 5000 has 352 cores, running at 513, 750

                   

                  You decide. Don't see a reason to buy a Quadro when you cam improving in so many others areas

                  • 6. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                    Turgut Unal Community Member

                    Hi

                    I had beeen had the same question quadro or gtx.

                    and made a decisition. I changed my gtx  580  with quadro 4000.

                    positives:

                    1.Color: Black is like pure black with quadro. And the other colors also. Eventhough my monitor is not 10 bit.

                    2.Luminans contrast: Luminasity and contrast of images look like better. This is just feeling and very subjective: Pixel creation way is qutie diffirent. I felt as if I use an  ati card. Much contrast and luminans.

                    3.Video quality: This is very very very subjective okey take care : They both do the same thing such as video editing but I feel like quadro final result is better. Maybe I always tick best render and best depth boxes.

                    4.Antialias:This is certian quadro is better.

                     

                    Futuristic:

                    Next years and monts will bring a new rule : In video production and news people will use much 3d

                    so quadro will be better for me.

                     

                    negatives

                    1.Cuda cores: Yes quadro has less cuda cores

                    But here comes a question: Yes cuda core is a horsepower.

                    But is it only horse power that pulls my car? No

                    here is a case: Ten minuties ago I was having a previev rendering in pp.

                    cpu usage %15 gpu:%20 Ram:%50 (hard disk sata ssd 3)

                    Some horses must be sleeping

                    Why cuda dosent use all my cpu

                    İf I would have maximus(how wish I would have) or gtx

                    shall it be the same

                     

                    Please do not just stick on  cuda cores

                    Stick on your wishes and plans and your needs

                     

                    Cuda is very usefull and gooooood

                    But not only horsepower

                     

                    thx

                    • 7. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                      Harm Millaard Community Member

                      What you are describing is the use of an uncalibrated monitor. There is no difference in color, contrast, luminance or video quality between GTX or Quadro on a properly calibrated monitor. What you are experiencing is the same as with different TV models. They have different display settings from the factory and without proper calibration, they show different levels of black, luminance, contrast etc. But who uses a TV with factory settings? Who uses a video card with default driver settings? Every editor should calibrate his monitor or TV first.

                       

                      First calibrate, load the resulting profile into the video card and then you will not see any difference. Your sleeping horses are the result of slow components in your system, like that disk setup. Your sleeping horses are comparable to a low horsepower car but with all gears available. You can put in more horsepower by using a GTX, but if you limit yourself to using only first gear, the difference is negligent.

                      • 8. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                        Turgut Unal Community Member

                        Hi Sir

                        sory but dou you think my system is slow:

                        Motherboard:ASUS - Rampage III Extreme Intel X58 Soket

                        Processor : i7-980X Processor Extreme Edition @4.2

                        Memory :Dominator® GT 12GB Triple Channel DDR3 Memory Kit

                        Video Card :Quadro 4000

                        Hard Drive :Corsair Force GT 3 120GB

                        Hard Drive :Corsair Force GT 3 120GB

                        Hard Drive :Corsair Force F240A

                        Hard Drive :Corsair Nova V128

                        Optical Drive:LG BH12LS38

                        Case:Obsidian 800D

                        Power Supply:Corsair 1200 Watt

                        Sound Card:M audio Audiophile 2496

                        MonitorEdit:Samsung T260

                        Operating System:Win7 x64 Ult.

                        • 9. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                          Harm Millaard Community Member

                          Try the PPBM CS5 Benchmark and you will know. My guess is your score will be in the 200-250 second range.

                          • 10. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                            Turgut Unal Community Member

                            Very Dear  Millaard:

                            You say "There is no difference in color, contrast, luminance or video quality between GTX or Quadro on a properly calibrated monitor."

                            Okey but my eyes think diffirent.

                            Please lets find a way to test this.

                            and create a test set up.

                             

                            best

                            turgut

                            • 11. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                              RjL190365 Community Member

                              Here's the thing, Turbut:

                               

                              Most LCD (or LED-backlit LCD) monitors are still of the TN panel variety, which can only reproduce 6-bit color. And even a good IPS panel-based monitor can cost $500 to $800. And the lower-priced monitors are increasingly S-IPS (a cheaper version of IPS that sacrifices a bit of image quality in favor of faster response times) or of the VA type (which does not offer the best of both worlds - but rather, the poorer of both worlds). That's because most people want things cheaper, not necessarily better. Thus, if a monitor can't faithfully reproduce the output of even a GTX, let alone a Quadro, why waste the money on such an expensive and slow GPU? Good monitors that can take full advantage of the 10-bit output of a Quadro can cost well into the thousands (or even tens of thousands) of dollars.

                              • 12. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                                Turgut Unal Community Member

                                Hiii RjL

                                Thx  for knowladge.I wish to have Dell U2711

                                 

                                Im not fan of gtx or quadro.

                                but I hope to be fan of Maximus.

                                Im fan of speed .

                                 

                                I happened to be the one who edited with high speed game desktops instead of 100000USD avid computers 14 yearsego In my country.

                                So we changed the rule.At least three major tv channels asked me to desing desktops for editing with gforce. Thx Lord I happened to have and test all best gforce cards.

                                 

                                NgKids Lansman Film was made  by intell 3.4 HT and gforce 7600 for CINEMA  at home.

                                And some news for BBC were made in my Toshiba laptop .

                                I know the force of gtx.

                                 

                                4 years ego Lets try quadro fx I said. But I wasnt happy.8800 gtx was hotter for me

                                Gtx 480-580 fleid me to the moon.

                                And I said lets try quadro new generation. First time Im happy with quadro.

                                There must be reason Im trying to find why

                                 

                                best

                                turgut

                                • 13. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                                  Harm Millaard Community Member

                                  Strange things happen when you think with your eyes, listen with your nose and see with your ears.

                                  • 14. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                                    Turgut Unal Community Member

                                     

                                    (now the ears of my ears awake and

                                    now the eyes of my eyes are opened)

                                                                      e.e.cummings

                                    • 15. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                                      JSS1138 Community Member

                                      the lower-priced monitors are increasingly S-IPS (a cheaper version of IPS

                                       

                                      Uh...may I ask your source on that?  Wikipedia claims that IPS was "plagued by slow response time and a low contrast ratio", and that "IPS has since been superseded by S-IPS (Super-IPS) in 1998, which has all the benefits of IPS technology with the addition of improved pixel refresh timing.

                                      • 16. Re: GeForce GTX vs Quadro: the comparsion
                                        Turgut Unal Community Member

                                        Hiii Millaard

                                        Wikipedia answers question for quadro vs gforce performance like that:

                                        The performance difference comes in the firmware controlling the card.[citation needed] Given the importance of speed in a game, a system used for gaming can shut down textures, shading, or rendering after only approximating a final output—in order to keep the overall frame rate high. The algorithms on a CAD-oriented card tend rather to complete all rendering operations, even if that introduces delays or variations in the timing, prioritising accuracy and rendering quality over speed.