36 Replies Latest reply on Jan 14, 2012 6:32 AM by Stan Jones

How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Dec 31, 2011 12:03 AM

Here a slide show I made from some pictures.

I have selected a 24fps 1080p movie, imported the photos I wanted to show, filled vertically the whole of the Program Monitor with the singel photos.

Now after exporting the whole movie as Windows media, Windows Media Video 9 codec,

and the video looks like this, the pictures dont fill the screen.

What am I doing wrong? What do I have to do so that the photos fill the screen vertically?

And how do I get a better image quality?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPM0Li6hMU0

1. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Harm Millaard Dec 31, 2011 1:32 AM (in response to Eireannsg1)

Don't export as Windows Movie, but instead use a YouTube preset.
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2. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Stephen_Spider Dec 31, 2011 6:39 AM (in response to Eireannsg1)

Don't do 24fps. Paste media into a 30 or 60 fps sequence.

Export H264 HD.
Export wide screen. Check your export preview screen for issues.
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3. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Dec 31, 2011 7:20 AM (in response to Stephen_Spider)

Thanks, I will check these options out.

Is H264 a good option for small file size while the quality doesnt suffer too much?
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4. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Dec 31, 2011 7:32 AM (in response to Eireannsg1)

OK, found that H264, MP4 has the same file size as the WMV created earlier, but the WMV movie has better quality.
I also found that the H264 encoder works much faster than the Windows media encoder but at HD setting, which is acceptable quality the file is 50% bigger.
The smallest movie file size is when I leave the transitions out. Without transitions the file size is only half of the movie with transitions.
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5. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Dec 31, 2011 4:34 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

Here the slideshow I made...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPM0Li6hMU0
using a WMV export option.
the file is 54.8 Mb big...without transitions 29.7 and using H264 exported for Youtube gives me a 83.2Mb Movie

The rendering is faster using the H264 but i need about 20 minutes longer to upload it.
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6. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Dec 31, 2011 5:19 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

Just made the same with camtasia,,,
export settings WEB...nothing more
good quality, Movie size 7.17Mb, rendering time abt. 1 minute
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7. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Stephen_Spider Dec 31, 2011 11:37 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

Your program is still being matted.
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8. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 1, 2012 5:42 AM (in response to Stephen_Spider)

My program is still being matted?

How do you want me to understand that.

BTW: I finally got my pictures big size onto the screen...havent rendered the one with transitions though, should have 29Mb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ZPBtOhVX0
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9. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Gamerisk Jan 1, 2012 7:37 AM (in response to Eireannsg1)

I'M NOT SURE IF THIS COULD BE YOUR SOLUTION!
I read that you filled the pictures, the whole screen right? Then there could be something wrong with the resolution (I think). Export>Tab: Video>Frame Width:1440 amd Frame Height: 1080
Or it could be his sequence settings ;o?
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10. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Stephen_Spider Jan 1, 2012 11:36 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

The last one was the right aspect ratio, therefore not matted on the resulting video.
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11. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 2, 2012 5:25 PM (in response to Stephen_Spider)

Stephen,
I still cant do anything with the expression "matted"
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12. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

careysb42 Jan 2, 2012 6:00 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

I don't know if this will help but I was trying to output a 1920x1080 MP4 this weekend and it kept on letter boxing it to 1440x1080 (black bars top and bottom). I had to unlink the aspect aspect ratio check box and explicitly set the frame width and height while leaving pixels set to "square".
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13. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Jim_Simon Jan 2, 2012 9:06 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

I still cant do anything with the expression "matted"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matte_%28filmmaking%29#Mattes_and_widescreen_filming
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14. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM (in response to Jim_Simon)

Thanks Jim,

after reading that I dont know what matting has to do with my slideshow.
I dont have foregrounds or background just plain photographs, one at a time.
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15. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Stephen_Spider Jan 3, 2012 5:49 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

The black parts that are not your photograph.......................

Best of Luck.
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16. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 4, 2012 4:12 PM (in response to Stephen_Spider)

"Matted" is a strange word to describe that black frame.
I would probably have called it "masked".

But well, one says motor and the other one engine.
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17. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Kevin-Monahan Jan 5, 2012 1:01 PM (in response to Gamerisk)

The issue is that either:
1. You need to scale the photos up to fit the sequence size in the Effects controls tab.
OR
2. You need a smaller sequence size to fit the photos.

The other problem is that you turned the camera sideways for some of the images. You can either scale them up and lose the top and bottom of the image or leave black bars on either side of the image. For those kinds of images, I usually scale to fill the screen and then animate the photos to move from top to bottom or vice versa.

Your other images are not the size of the sequence either, so scaling the image up will lose some of the image.

If you want a sequence the same size as your image, you can create one automatically by drag/dropping it onto the New Item button in the Project panel.
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18. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 5, 2012 4:14 PM (in response to Kevin-Monahan)

Just wrote a reply but the screen blinked and it all disappeared...
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19. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 5, 2012 4:19 PM (in response to Kevin-Monahan)

Yes, I know that some of the photos are in landscape while others are in portrait. I dont expect the portrait photos to fill a landscape screen.

Guess I have to play more around with Premiere Pro, just bought Production Premium end Nov 2011.
In the end there seem to be not too many screen/project dimensions selectable for HD there are 1080p and 720p or so. Maybe there is a setting somewhere where I dont have to select an option out of a list but can adapt the sequence size to my picture size (e.g. 1265pxx821px)

Hope this text goes in and and doesnt disappear again.
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20. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

joe bloe premiere Jan 5, 2012 4:25 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

...there seem to be not too many screen/project dimensions selectable for HD there are 1080p and 720p or so. Maybe there is a setting somewhere where I dont have to select an option out of a list but can adapt the sequence size to my picture size (e.g. 1265pxx821px)

When you create a new project you are presented
with a menu of sequence settings to choose from.
You can skip this step by hitting "Cancel", then import your media
and create the type of sequence that best suits your footage.

In the New Sequence dialog, click on the Settings tab.
Change the Editing Mode to Custom, and then you can
change whatever parameters you like.
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21. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Kevin-Monahan Jan 5, 2012 4:50 PM (in response to joe bloe premiere)

Yes, you can even drag/drop a representative photo onto the New Item button. It will create an ideal sequence setting for you automatically.
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22. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 6, 2012 3:42 AM (in response to Kevin-Monahan)

Thanks, I will try that. There is still a lot to figure out...
Maybe for slide shows I will set the frame rate to 5 or 10 fps if that is possible. Then I can do a bit of (rough) transition but the total movie size will also be much smaller, I hope..
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23. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

the_wine_snob Jan 6, 2012 9:24 AM (in response to Eireannsg1)

What is your delivery scheme for that SlideShow?

For DVD/BD, you will want the Frame Rate to be within-spec.

Good luck,

Hunt
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24. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 7, 2012 4:44 PM (in response to Kevin-Monahan)

Kevin Monahan wrote:

Yes, you can even drag/drop a representative photo onto the New Item button. It will create an ideal sequence setting for you automatically.
Tried that and it creates a 29.97pps movie but I want a 10fps movie. Found that 10fps is better for slide shows because it creates smaller rendered files (theoretically). It also seems the frame rate can not be changed

*I have also managed to crach Premiere Pro a few time in a row.
Created a new project, Imported the Photos and then attempted to create a new Sequence. There I just went to " settings" to change the scene settings and got a crash...the second time I managed to type in some values like 10fps but then it sais the Preset doesnt exist and I have to make a new one...tried that and the Premiere Pro crashes.
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25. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 7, 2012 4:50 PM (in response to joe bloe premiere)

joe bloe premiere wrote:

In the New Sequence dialog, click on the Settings tab.
Change the Editing Mode to Custom, and then you can
change whatever parameters you like.
Tried just that and only get crashes.
1) Took any of the Presets, changed the size to 800x....crash
2) Took any of the Presets, changed the size to 800x.600 and then the fps to 10...crash
3) Took any of the Presets, changed the size to 800x.600 and then the fps to 10...got a message that a preset with those parameters doesnt exist and that I have to make a new one OK...I went to SAVE PRESET, gave it a name and CRASH
4) Took any of the Presets, changed the size to 800x.600 and then the fps to 10...got a message that a preset with those parameters doesnt exist and that I have to make a new one OK...I went to SAVE PRESET, gave it a name and CRASH again and again...

Working with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
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26. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Stan Jones Jan 7, 2012 6:22 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

In the New Sequence dialog, click on the Settings tab.
Change the Editing Mode to Custom, and then you can
change whatever parameters you like.
I think you actually need to click first on the "General" tab (not on Custom), and make your settings there. If you want to have the settings saved as a preset for a next time, click "Save Preset" at the bottom.

Edit: sorry; you obviously figured that part out. Set the editing mode to desktop.
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27. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 7, 2012 9:58 PM (in response to Stan Jones)

So that you see what I see...here a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED9daBNMSEQ
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28. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Ann Bens Jan 8, 2012 4:44 AM (in response to Eireannsg1)

What you are seeing is correct.
Go to Settings first, then click on the editing mode and set it to Custom.
Then alter the framerate.
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29. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Stan Jones Jan 8, 2012 5:32 AM (in response to Ann Bens)

Sorry for adding confusion.

I see now that CS5.5 changed the "General" tab to "Settings" and the "Desktop" editing mode to "Custom."

So Joe's advice at post 20 and Ann's are exactly correct.
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30. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 8, 2012 2:46 PM (in response to Stan Jones)

Thanks
Took me long but I finally found that "custom mode"
I expected a tick box instead of 'custom' being a part of a pull down menu where it is difficult to find.
Now I can change the frame rate to make a slide show smaller and I can adjust the video so that everything fills the page.
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31. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 13, 2012 4:11 PM (in response to Stan Jones)

Dear Ann, Stan,
just another thought regarding the error Premiere Pro creates.

I think the program should probably create a warning message "hey cant do that" but not become unresposnsive or break down in this case
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED9daBNMSEQ
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32. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Kevin-Monahan Jan 13, 2012 4:42 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

I think you have a point. The dialog should say, "Choose the Custom setting for non-standard codecs" and then switch over to that setting. It could also just cancel you out of that process and throw you back to the New Sequence dialog.

As it stands, choosing a non-standard frame rate or frame size, you'd need to go to the Editing Mode and choose "Custom" for Premiere Pro CS5.5. For Premiere Pro CS5 and earlier, choose the "Desktop" preset. This is how you make sequences for things like web banners and digital signage.

I'll try to make this clearer in documentation. Anyone want to make a video tutorial about Custom settings? It would be a great piece of content to place into Help.
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33. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Kevin-Monahan Jan 13, 2012 4:43 PM (in response to Eireannsg1)

I agree that the custom setting is not easy to find. Make a feature request for "make finding custom setting easier" here: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish
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34. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Kevin-Monahan Jan 13, 2012 4:45 PM (in response to Stan Jones)

Stan, I wrote about this sublte change in Premiere Pro Help.
It's here: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/premierepro/cs/using/WS630B3868-F095-46fe-8690-A5BDBCFD6EC8.ht ml#WSDA95C40B-9668-48dc-A0B5-B16616D1F6D9
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35. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Eireannsg1 Jan 13, 2012 11:32 PM (in response to Kevin-Monahan)

Kevin Monahan wrote:

I agree that the custom setting is not easy to find. Make a feature request for "make finding custom setting easier" here: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

Thanks.
I would probably have put in a tick box for custom settings.
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36. Re: How to create a movie that fills the screen?

Stan Jones Jan 14, 2012 6:32 AM (in response to Kevin-Monahan)

Thanks, Kevin. Yes, I found that once I realized I was ignorant on this change. And that made it easy to sort out!
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