7 Replies Latest reply: Jan 5, 2012 2:27 PM by Christ-Guard RSS

    Help Making Smooth "Kidney" like shapes for a golf course map

    Christ-Guard Community Member

      Hey guys!

         First and foremost, you rock! In other news, I need help making smooth shapes, like a kidney shape and such for a golf course overhead map (Like The Picture Below) but I am having no luck. I am not a total photoshop noob, and can do a lot, but I admit that I suck with the pen tool! I tried using it by making the basic shape then adding anchor points to smoth out the walls... but that left sharp corners and was dificult to do... is there an easier way? I wish I could just trace it with a tool and then click a button that smoths it out! Any tips would be great, thanks!
      http://www.ci.la.ca.us/rap/golf/graphics/woodley/woodley_layout.gif

        • 1. Re: Help Making Smooth "Kidney" like shapes for a golf course map
          Christ-Guard Community Member

          PS, I just need to get the bassic shapes, the decorating I can handle

          • 2. Re: Help Making Smooth "Kidney" like shapes for a golf course map
            Curt Y Community Member

            The pen tool is about the only way to go.  It does take a little getting use to, but once you get the technique it goes pretty quick.

             

            One thing that works well to see what is going is is click on the "rubber band" box.  It is a drop arrow next to custom shape tool (looks like star fish).

             

            Probably dozens of tutorials and Utube videos to help you out.

             

            Good luck and hope this helps.

            • 3. Re: Help Making Smooth "Kidney" like shapes for a golf course map
              c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

              I tried using it by making the basic shape then adding anchor points to smoth out the walls... but that left sharp corners and was dificult to do

              When you create a curve point don’t just click, but click and drag to draw out the bezier handles.

              To change an existing corner point to a curve point alt-click and drag with the Pen Tool (in reverse just alt-click it).

              Bezier Handle can also be grabbed individually by alt-click and dragging.

               

              If you have a shape with corners (for example a Layer Mask on a Solid Color or Pattern Layer) Filter > Noise > Median could be used, but the results may not be excellent.

              • 4. Re: Help Making Smooth "Kidney" like shapes for a golf course map
                c.pfaffenbichler Community Member

                The Median Filter could also be used as a Smart Filter on a Layer with a Vector Mask – but like I said the results may not be excellent.

                medianTestScr.jpg

                • 5. Re: Help Making Smooth "Kidney" like shapes for a golf course map
                  acresofgreen Community Member

                  Great tips so far in this thread. The pen tool does require a lot of practice for one to become really good at it.  If you have Illustrator you can create the shape with Illustrator's pen tool and then smooth out the shape using the Object - Path - Simplify command.

                  • 6. Re: Help Making Smooth "Kidney" like shapes for a golf course map
                    arc fixer Community Member

                    Hi CG.

                     

                    A little more info about the Pen Tool. Don't expect to be able to draw the arcs correctly on your first pass. The important thing is to get the anchor points in the right spots first. Then you can go back and adjust the arcs with the Direct Selection Tool (White Arrow). You may also add or subtract points as necessary.

                     

                    Or, you could skip the Pen Tool altogether and use the Shape Tool (U) and the Direct Selection Tool (A).

                     

                    Below is a simple green. I've used the Oval Shape Tool to create the path. It is defined by 4 anchor points.

                     

                    GREEN.JPG

                     

                     

                    Next, using the White Arrow, drag the four anchor points tangent to the green as below.

                     

                    GREEEN1.JPG

                     

                    Finally, still using the White Arrow, hold down shift and drag the handles to place the arcs. You may have to go back and forth a little to get them just right.

                     

                    GREEN2.JPG

                     

                    Of course, more complicated shapes will require a few more points. But 4 points will define a surprising number of shapes if you put the anchor points in the right spots. And any points added after the first 4 should not have their handles constrained by holding down Shft.

                     

                    Using this method, after a while, you will begin to get a feel for where the anchor points should be, and how many. Then you can confidently use the Pen Tool to place the points directly. I don't even try to draw perfectly the first time. I draw my anchor points in with the Pen Tool, and always go back with the White Arrow to finish. I must confess that I don't so much draw with the Pen Tool, as use it to construct drawings. Maybe someday I can actually draw with it.

                     

                    In any case, as indicated by the above posts, becoming familiar with the Pen Tool and paths in general is more than worth the effort. Things that are hard or impossible with pixels are easy and run of the mill with vectors.

                     

                    FWIW.

                     

                    Peace,

                    Lee

                    • 7. Re: Help Making Smooth "Kidney" like shapes for a golf course map
                      Christ-Guard Community Member

                      Thanks for all the help! This community (And the Adobe Community as a whole) has got to be the best community on the internet. I am working with the pen tool, following much of all of yours advice, and watching plenty of youtube videos. thanks again!