Both CPU and GPU are OK.
BUT, where is at least the second and possibly third HDD (7200 SATA)?
Some ideas for a Laptop Video Editing PC from past discussions
-NOTE only 1 hard drive in above, so you will need to add a 2nd drive or use eSata for video files
-or Google "ASUS G74SX-BBK7" (without the quote "" marks)
For effective HD video editing, a laptop with the following
-the newer Intel sandy bridge 2720 or 2820 quad processor
-and nvidia graphics preferably the 460m, 485m is a bit much
-1280x900 display with OpenGL 2.0-compatible graphics card
-and 8 or 16 gig ram and Win7 64bit Pro
-and 2 internal 7200 HDDs minimum
Thanks very much for these links above!!
I'm looking for something along these lines available locally (New Zealand)..
Need a laptop rather than desktop as we often edit on site ..
We generally use an external hard drive for the video data.. and are currently using PP4.
Welcome any feedback..
The ASUS looks good for a laptop. The Sony is hampered by the single drive only. Not advisable.
Thanks Harm for your feedback, hugely appreciated!
Just checking ... with the Sony, if we were to use an external drive for the video data (connected via USB3) is your comment re: being hampered by a single drive still applicable ?
Less so. You really need at least two physical 7200 RPM drives, ideally SATA and/or eSATA. USB3 is way faster than USB2, but does not achieve the speed of SATA disks, think something in the order of 50 - 70%, but still about 300% faster than USB2. Given the choice, I think the Asus is the better buy, but the Sony can perform quite nicely with a USB3 disk, provided you do not tax the system with difficult codecs and many tracks or multicam editing.
The Asus option definitely looks stonger to me:
- 2 internal 2.5" drive bays vs. 1 in the Sony
- 4 RAM slots (16GB as configured), whereas the Sony only has 2 slots and comes max'd out at 8GB
Regarding Harm's comment regarding USB 3.0, I totally agree.
Would a USB3 flash drive (Kingston 32Gb Data traveller Ultimate 3.0 G2) be suitable for pagefiles/scratch/renders? I have a 64 bit Asus laptop with esata drive for media. The Asus has only 1 internal drive which I use for OS. It has space for a second drive but it seems impossible to add another one even though there there is space but alas no connector in the drive bay. The express card slot is occupied by the matrox mx02 so no go on dual esata.
I'm not Harm, but I can tell you that most USB portable flash drives (even with USB 3.0 capability) are much too slow in sequential transfer speed to be suitable for use as a pagefile/scratch/render drive: All of these drives use MLC NAND chips with a far slower write speed than read speed. For example, one such pen drive has a read speed of 60 MB/s but only writes at 9 MB/s! And because the pagefile and scratch disk operation is utilized all the time, that would induce excessive wear and tear on the generally short-lasting portable flash drive. Under these conditions, you will use up all 10,000 of the flash drive's rewrite cycles in only a few months without you even knowing it. That is why I'm only recommending such a drive for easy transfer of smaller files (such as documents) from one computer to another.
Thanks what you have written is very enlightening.
I'm interested to know if this USB 3 problem covers only the usb powered 2.5 HDD .....and excludes the bigger external 3.5 HDD's with an outside power source, or applicable for both scenarios???
I currently use an eSata link to an external 3.5HDD 7500 (with external power source) which has the video data... seperating the Premiere Pro editing application from the data for performance reasons.
So, how to connect if the there is eSata port, which some of the new PCs don't seem to have?
Also many have no Firewire to download my old HDV tapes, I was looking for a USB3 hub to Firewire opton to cover that. Is that viable?
Welcome any feedback..
Also many have no Firewire to download my old HDV tapes, I was looking for a USB3 hub to Firewire opton to cover that.Is that viable?
NO. And the correct phrase is not download, but capture.
Actually, Jen, you confused the USB 3.0 problem with the hard drives with what I stated. I had actually responded to another user who asked if a USB 3.0 pen-type flash drive was suitable for pagefiles/scratch/renders. I responded to that question with a resounding "no" because most such pen drives have extremely limited performance within their NAND chips themselves.
To answer your question, a USB 3.0 to Firewire adapter would still not do the trick because there are an excessive number of latencies going on within the adapter itself (plus, their conversion is often so inefficient that the Firewire 400 output would be much slower than even USB 2.0). You will need a CardBus-to-IEEE 1394a adapter card if you want Firewire 400. Do not get a Firewire 800 (IEEE 1394b) card because they either have no Firewire 400 support whatsoever or their Firewire 400 throughput is slower than USB 2.0.
I'd like to thank all of you who have responded to my original question so far..
One of the concerns I still have though is portability. I realise that a laptop is not the ideal
candidate for Adobe cs5.5 and a 15.6" laptop that contains only memory slot on board is definitely
not ideal !.. The thing is that I have a desktop which runs cs5.5 at home and I just need
a laptop for mobility and doing little projects out and about with premiere pro, which will subsequently
be stored either in the desktop or in an external hard drive. So I don't need a huge ammount of memory..
say 100 gb max per project, Is my original configuration (see above) still not great knowing this?
I wanted something fast so I thought SSD would be ideal?
Also, I read an article about OWC launching super fast portable drives.,
If I needed extra memory, couldn't I attach one of these devices onto my laptop using esata and would they work well?
I know the memory isn't onboard, but they claim to be superfast?... Er..help?
Any responses will be very much appreciated..
There is a typo in your link. It should be http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/247881/owc_launches_superfast_portable_drive s.html
Such a disk will give you fast storage, about as fast as an internal SATA disk. Extra memory is another thing. That is about 8 GB or 16 GB memory and has nothing to do with the storage capacity you linked to above.
Thank you for getting back and apologies for the typo!
What I was thinking of doing for my 15.6" laptop (specs above) was linking it to one of the OWC products listed on the link below in order to increase the laptop storage capacity
available to me.. but also that the device I was connecting to (via esata) would have comparable speeds to that of an internal hard drive. This way, I could purchase a 15.6" laptop (thus retaining portability and a computer that isn't going to be too cumbersome to carry about with me) with only one internal hard drive for relatively small projects on the go..
but then if I needed extra storage, I could connect to one of these devices, which claim to have read and write speeds comparable to that of an onboard memory (7200 rpm etc).. for example the 500gb 7200 rpm version with esata that comes in at $149.99..
Does this make sense? And do you think its a viable way of working with smaller CS5.5 projects?
I know that you're an expert, so I would really value your response..
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Your reasoning is completely correct and I agree that such an external disk would make your editing life a lot easier. Just make sure you get the 7200 RPM version.
Thanks so much for replying and your advice!