6 Replies Latest reply: Mar 8, 2012 5:12 AM by jumpyg2 RSS

    How to work with video that needs to be rotated

    jumpyg2 Community Member

      Hi all,

       

      I have some video that was shot with a cell phone set on a table on its side. The result is all of the subjects are off 90 degrees. I know this isn't close to the correct way to shoot video, but it was given to me and I want to make the best of it.

       

      I am able to rotate 90 degrees clockwise in PrE. Then I created a test output file, an AVI>DV-NTSC-Standard, and the output has black bars on both sides. I'm sure I'll have to live with that. However, the audio is out of sync, too. My goal is to create something that will be played on a Windows computer projected on a screen.

       

      Can somebody suggest the best project and output settings? Here is what MediaInfo told me about the source files, which are .3gp files.

       

      Thanks!

       

      General

      Complete name                            : C:\Users\....\VIDEO0051.3gp

      Format                                   : MPEG-4

      Format profile                           : 3GPP Media Release 4

      Codec ID                                 : 3gp4

      File size                                : 141 MiB

      Duration                                 : 6mn 30s

      Overall bit rate                         : 3 029 Kbps

       

      Video

      ID                                       : 2

      Format                                   : MPEG-4 Visual

      Format profile                           : Simple@L6

      Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes

      Format settings, QPel                    : No

      Format settings, GMC                     : No warppoints

      Format settings, Matrix                  : Default (H.263)

      Codec ID                                 : 20

      Duration                                 : 6mn 29s

      Bit rate mode                            : Constant

      Bit rate                                 : 3 000 Kbps

      Nominal bit rate                         : 256 Kbps

      Width                                    : 800 pixels

      Height                                   : 480 pixels

      Display aspect ratio                     : 1.667

      Frame rate mode                          : Variable

      Frame rate                               : 23.900 fps

      Minimum frame rate                       : 1.996 fps

      Maximum frame rate                       : 473.684 fps

      Color space                              : YUV

      Bit depth                                : 8 bits

      Scan type                                : Progressive

      Compression mode                         : Lossy

      Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.327

      Stream size                              : 139 MiB (99%)

      Title                                    : VideoHandle

      Language                                 : English

       

      Audio

      ID                                       : 1

      Format                                   : AMR

      Format/Info                              : Adaptive Multi-Rate

      Format profile                           : Narrow band

      Codec ID                                 : samr

      Duration                                 : 6mn 30s

      Bit rate mode                            : Constant

      Bit rate                                 : 12.8 Kbps

      Channel(s)                               : 1 channel

      Sampling rate                            : 8 000 Hz

      Bit depth                                : 13 bits

      Stream size                              : 609 KiB (0%)

      Title                                    : SoundHandle

      Writing library                          :   

      Language                                 : English

        • 1. Re: How to work with video that needs to be rotated
          the_wine_snob Community Member

          For each Clip, go to Effects Tab, and with the Clip Selected, choose Edit Effects.

           

          There you will see the Fixed Effects, Motion, Opacity and Rotation. Choose Rotation, and then just adjust as needed.

           

          Note: you will then end up with portrait orientation, in a horizontal Video Frame, so will likely want to use Motion>Scale, and possibly Motion>Position to fill the Frame, or leave the black bars.

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: How to work with video that needs to be rotated
            the_wine_snob Community Member

            Note: if you have multiple Clips that need Rotation, just adjust the first Clip, as is needed, and then Rt-click on that Clip, choosing Copy. Next, Select all other such Clips, Rt-click on them, and choose Paste Attributes to Rotate them too.

             

            Good luck,

             

            Hunt

            • 3. Re: How to work with video that needs to be rotated
              Steve Grisetti MVP

              It's going to be a challenge because your video source isn't a good fit for Premiere Elements AND it's sideways. But here's probably your best chance.

               

              First, change your video clips' suffixes from AVI to MP4. That will make it less confusing for the program.

               

              Then start a new project and select, for your project settings, the Flip Mino standard definition preset.

               

              Import your video into the project and rotate it. Then press Enter to render your timeline.

               

              Try outputting a test video using Share/Computer/MOV at its default settings and then play the results in Quicktime Player.

              • 4. Re: How to work with video that needs to be rotated
                jumpyg2 Community Member

                Hi Steve,

                 

                Sorry to be confusing, but the source clips are actually .3gp extensions.

                 

                I used the Flip Mino and Ultra 29_97p for the present, and output it using Computer > QuickTime > NTSC DV.

                 

                The output file size was 10 times as large as the source! Like I expected, the video and audio aren't synced up. Thanks for the help, but it appears this is impossible to work with.

                • 5. Re: How to work with video that needs to be rotated
                  nealeh Community Member

                  I converted the only 3GP file I found on my computer to DV using Aimersoft Video Converter Pro. It converted well, video and sound (blurred but the original is 176x144 and I blew it up to DV 720x576.

                   

                  Generally I find that Aimersoft Video Converter Pro handles just about anything I throw at it. They have a free trial that will let you see if it converts your file OK.

                   

                  Cheers,

                  --

                  Neale

                  Insanity is hereditary, you get it from your children

                  • 6. Re: How to work with video that needs to be rotated
                    jumpyg2 Community Member

                    Cool tip, Bill. I didn't know about Paste Attributes. Is that something new in 10?

                     

                     

                    Bill Hunt wrote:

                     

                    Note: if you have multiple Clips that need Rotation, just adjust the first Clip, as is needed, and then Rt-click on that Clip, choosing Copy. Next, Select all other such Clips, Rt-click on them, and choose Paste Attributes to Rotate them too.

                     

                    Good luck,

                     

                    Hunt