Problem with Bleed, getting a white border I don't want

[borkibark]

Hi,

When I export my document, my 10mm bleed becomes this white frame. I have not found a solution on how to get rid of it. I've tried a bunch of different things, and now I'm hoping some nice person here can help me out.

Here is how the bleed looks like in the document:

This is the pdf: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3098225/spiral2.pdf

This is my Indesign project file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3098225/spiral.zip

I want my bleed lines to show, but I don't want that white frame.

I suspect my problem is very easy to fix..

I would really appreciate some help on this. Thanks!

[Jeffrey_Smith]

Do you have bleed set in the export as well?

[Daniel Flavin]

Toggle "Use Document Bleed Setting" from the Export > Marks and Bleeds

You have defined the bleed in the setup, but did not envoke it.

[borkibark]

Hi guys.

Thanks for the input!

However, when I set "use documents bleed settings" in export>Marks and Bleeds, I still get the white frame. The pdf looks exactly the same.

[borkibark]

I found the solution!

In export under Marks and Bleeds I had to activate "crop marks", and deactivate "bleed marks". While having the Use document bleed setting on. Now the white frame is gone!

Anyway, thank you for your time guys!

[33_Steps · Accepted solution]

Did you put an offset  in for the bleeds and crops when you exported the PDF? See attached

[MW Design]

This is what I get once I toggle the "Use Document..." bleed setting.

10 mm is a pretty healthy bleed.

take care, Mike

[Daniel Flavin]

This is from your file - I toggled Use Document Bleed. Crop Marks are an option, not a requirement these days

[borkibark]

Hi again guys. I still thank you for being so helpful! But as I wrote earlier, I found the solution. And yes, Daniel Flavin and 33 Steps, your answers are correct.

This must be the most helpful software forum I've ever visited. Have a nice weekend guys!

[Peter Spier]

Looking at your last screen grab your crop marks are inside the bleed area. In theory this is OK, since they are supposed to get cut off, but in practice you'll want to add enough offset to move themoutside the bleed area. That's there, after all, just in case the cutter is misaligned, and if it is you don't wan those marks showing up on your finished prints.

10 mm, by the way  is pretty big for a bleed allowance. 3 mm is pretty normal.

[borkibark]

Thanks for the tip Peter!

so how much offset would you suggest for this bleed?

About the 10mm bleed, that is what the print shop insists on. I have no idea why they need it that big. As I'm sure it obvious, I'm a newbie.

[MW Design]

Peter mentions 3mm (Being in the US, I most often use 0.0125" which is a bit over 3 mm and sometimes a bit less).

Take care, Mike

[BobLevine]

.125” is always a bit over 3mm.

Bob

[MW Design]

.125” is always a bit over 3mm.

<g>

Good thing I am not the proofreading last resort for the work I do...

(I meant that sometimes I use less than 0.0125" of course.)

Mike "Not always the sharpest tack" Wenzloff

[borkibark]

This is how my pdf with crop marks looks like now. Isn't this okey?

[MW Design]

You can set the crop marks to a value greater than the bleed itself to move them outside the bleed area...

Mike

[borkibark]

I see. Thanks Mike!