7 Replies Latest reply: Dec 12, 2012 1:46 AM by heytobi RSS

    Retain A Collection's Manual Sort Order ?

    plasticAnimal Community Member

      Why is this forum so difficult to use ?

       

      I have a question that I cannot search for, and which deletes my search text when it heads into this posting. This makes no sense to me, since I'm sure the problem I have was covered ages ago.

       

      The simple 21 image CS5 Bridge collection I created does not sort manually in the order that the images were added to the collection.

       

      Neither does the Output panel retain my individually selected order.

       

      Is there some secret to retaining either a collection's orginal creation order, or a selection's order so I can use this to output to a PDF in the order as I intended ?

        • 1. Re: Retain A Collection's Manual Sort Order ?
          Curt Y Community Member

          On the search.  The secret is to use google or some other search engine.  Never had much luck with Abobe.

           

          Not sure what you mean with "The simple 21 image CS5 Bridge collection I created does not sort manually in the order that the images were added to the collection".  If you have it on manual sort you have to arrange the images by click and drag. 

           

          Now if you sort and it does not retain sort after rebooting Bridge, you probably have "load Bridge on startup".  Go into advanced preferences and uncheck this option, reboot and you should be OK.

          • 2. Re: Retain A Collection's Manual Sort Order ?
            plasticAnimal Community Member

            Nope, that is not the case. I do not start Bridge on computer startup.

             

            The images were added to the collection in the order that I wanted them to show up. Why should I rearrange them a second time ? Just to have this work ?

             

            It seems the collection .filelist file is never maintained in the order of the original images as added, so it seems there is no solution to this problem that I can see.

             

            I'll try rearranging them again but that doesn't make much sense to me.

            • 3. Re: Retain A Collection's Manual Sort Order ?
              Curt Y Community Member

              Do you have the sort order of the screen set to manual?  Don't think the order you enter them will affect it unless you do it on manual.  Then it should remember it even if you click on sort by filename and then go back to manual.  At least it does this with a smart collection.

              • 4. Re: Retain A Collection's Manual Sort Order ?
                plasticAnimal Community Member

                If it worked for me as you suggest it should I would not have posted.

                 

                Yes, I had the sort order set to manual before even dropping in the images into the collection, but it is NOT a smart collection. Maybe it's too dumb to do it right. (i.e. as documented.)

                • 5. Re: Retain A Collection's Manual Sort Order ?
                  Curt Y Community Member

                  Have you tried this with smart collections as well as just collections?  Smart collections operate a little differently.

                  • 6. Re: Retain A Collection's Manual Sort Order ?
                    Omke Oudeman Community Member

                    It seems the collection .filelist file is never maintained in the order of the original image as added, so it seems there is no solution to this problem that I can see.

                     

                    I'll try rearranging them again but that doesn't make much sense to me.

                     

                    It looks like the collection default order is like the folder hierarchy you dragging files from and not first dragged is also first in the list. If that is smart or dumb behavior might be depending on the point of view...

                     

                    Every sort order set changes immediately to manual once you start moving files your self. But that said, like Curt stated, they order you made should stay visible in the Output Module.

                     

                    If this is not the case you could try a workspace reset or a preferences reset (hold down option-Mac / ctrl-Windows) while restarting Bridge. (this might also reset the start Bridge at login to on)

                     

                    Check if it keeps the manual order now.

                    • 7. Re: Retain A Collection's Manual Sort Order ?
                      heytobi

                      Hi there,

                       

                      I tired to reply on forums.adobe.com/message/4225665, but it was "readonly". Same issue here...

                       

                      it's Tobi from Germany, using Bridge CS4. I had the same problem, Bridge not saving the order of images. I got it solved by detecting that the problem always occured when i used Germanic umlaut for the collections title names. maybe you should check your spelling too and only use "english" characters.

                       

                      in

                      C:Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Adobe\Bridge CS4

                      you have two important folders:

                      /Collections

                      /UserSort

                      and in /UserSort you only should have exactly one more file than in /Collections. In my case by using Germanic umlaut i had like some hundred more. Then you should check UserSort/index.xml. Open it using your prefered editor (like Notepad++) and check the spelling of your collections paths.

                       


                      In order to exchange your collections with other users or devices you should always copy both folder, "Collections" and "UserSort" and in UserSort/index.html you should adjust the paths, changing the user directory.

                       

                      Or, Adobe wakes up and adds an export/import-feature to Bridge and solves the character-issue!