10 Replies Latest reply: Mar 21, 2012 9:49 PM by alanofoz RSS

    Flickering like old-time movies

    ksidfysiyd

      I've just started using Premiere Elements 8.01 to create DVDs from .mpg files, in turn created by a Topfield PVR.

       

      The result flickers in a very similar manner to old-time movies and are virtually unwatchable. The original .mpg files are very smooth and high quality.

       

      I'm obviously doing something wrong, however I've searched through menus, settings and preferences and tried every possibility I can find but to no avail.

       

      Any ideas?

       

      Win XP SP3, Q9400 (Core 2 quad), 2.67GHz, 2GB RAM (No longer very new, but surely enough?)

      Project is on a 1TB disc with 323 GB free, scratch disc is 2TB with 1.1TB free.

      Source file is 11GB.

       

      Thanks,

      Alan

        • 1. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
          alanofoz Community Member

          I didn't know I was ksidfysiyd !! That first post was from me, alanofoz!!!

          • 2. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
            the_wine_snob Community Member

            Welcome to the forum.

             

            Where does the Topfield PVR fit into your workflow?

             

            This flickering sounds like Field Order Reversal.

             

            Can you tell us the full specs. and details of the original footage, what part the Topfield PVR plays in the workflow, and what Project Preset you chose?

             

            Good luck,

             

            Hunt

            • 3. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
              Steve Grisetti MVP

              This almost always indicates a mismatch between project settings and your source video.

               

              Go to your project's Edit/Project Properties and most likely you'll see the Field Options set to lower field first.

               

              Since you used an MPEG as your source file, it should have been set to upper field first.

               

              The way around that is to start a new project and, when  you select the Settings, make sure you select the settings for Hard Disk Camcorder/Standard Definition.

              • 4. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
                alanofoz Community Member

                Thanks for the welcome, Bill. In reality I've been active on the Audition forum for some years. Although my profile incorrectly shows since 2009.

                 

                And you nailed it! Your Field Order Reversal comment led me via Google to Clip > Video Options > Field Options...

                 

                Problem solved, thanks muchly.

                • 5. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
                  the_wine_snob Community Member

                  Glad that you got it sorted. From the description, it sounded like the "classic" Field Reversal. Other characteristics of Field Reversal is "jaggies" with much motion, or "tearing" of the Vdeo.

                   

                  I also understand the Profiles. Over the last few years, I think that I have automatically become about 3 different people, and as I started with the Adobe forums, when they were only NNTP, before HTTP even came along. My Start Date of 2002 is probably only 8 years late! Just a guess, but I'd say that I probably had 20,000 posts from the old days, that went POOF overnight. Such is life.

                   

                  Steve went on to give good suggestions for how to handle things. Thanks Steve.

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
                    alanofoz Community Member

                    Thanks Steve. Sorry I didn't see your post sooner. I think I was typing my previous post at the time you posted.

                     

                    As I type this I'm following up your suggestions.

                     

                    Cheers,

                    Alan

                    • 7. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
                      alanofoz Community Member

                      Many thanks to Bill and Steve for helping me out here.

                       

                      Unfortunately I have another question, unrelated I think.

                       

                      During my efforts to solve the flickering problem, I found that quite often the picture was not full size. The aspect ratio looks correct and it's centred on the screen, but the picture is only about 80% of its correct height and width, i.e. there is a black border surrounding the picture. This occurs after burning a DVD and playing it on a portable player AND a "normal" player connected to the TV.Sometimes I get a DVD that's OK, more often a reduced picture.

                       

                      What am I doing wrong?

                      • 8. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
                        Steve Grisetti MVP

                        Once again, it's all about selecting the right project settings for your video when you first start your project.

                         

                        Part 1 of my free 8 part Basic Training tutorials shows you how.

                        http://forums.adobe.com/thread/537685

                        • 9. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
                          the_wine_snob Community Member

                          I agree with Steve here. The Project Preset should match the Source Footage 100%, or one will have issues, and "black bars" can be one. This ARTICLE goes into some detail.

                           

                          Good luck,

                           

                          Hunt

                          • 10. Re: Flickering like old-time movies
                            alanofoz Community Member

                            Thanks again to Steve & Bill.

                             

                            So far so good. It seems I was simply not paying attention to the source and project parameters. Now that I'm aware of this the problem has not recurred.