17 Replies Latest reply: May 20, 2014 3:10 PM by the_wine_snob RSS

    Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro

    the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

      There have been several discussions on the lack of real alignment tools in Titler, for both PrE and PrPro. I use a workaround to this, and just Import a "grid" image, created in PS and Saved to .PSD with Transparency. I use the same technique to build layouts for PiP and similar.

       

      One just Imports the .PSD into their NLE (Non Linear Editing) program, as a still, or as Footage in PrPro. The .PSD is then placed on the Timeline in a Video Track above any other Clips. The Title is then placed above the .PSD. In PrE, one sees the Video below the Title automatically. In PrPro there is a checkbox to do this.

       

      The grid in the .PSD is used for alignment of the elements/text in the Title.

       

      Be sure to remove the grid, when you are done, or in PrPro, you can turn off visibility for its Video Track. Otherwise, you WILL Export the grid, and that is not what you will likely want to do. Do not forget to disable this .PSD, before the Export.

       

      Attached are an NTSC 16:9 .PSD and an NTSC 4:3 .PSD, with proper PAR for each.

       

      Hope that this helps someone, where they need better alignment in Titler in either PrE, or PrPro.

       

      Hunt

        • 1. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

          [Edit] Erroneous URL removed.

           

          Oops, please ignore the URL that appears below. It is left over from a reply to a request for a converter in the Pr forum. It did not appear on the editing screen here, and I only saw it when I posted. I cannot find a way to edit it out and hope that Steve G. or other MOD will do this for me.

           

          Sorry about that,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
            Community Member

            Thanks for grid files, downloaded, and will check it out...

             

            Rod

             

             

            ps, I just posted, used back key on browser to get back to forum message, clicked refresh and was able to edit this mssg OK...

             

            Rod

            • 3. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
              the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

              Rod,

               

              I use similar, when doing a lot of PiP work. I do not use PiP Presets, as I am usually doing something that is not covered by the Presets. In those cases, I will create a similar image, but create "boxes" in the position that I will be using. These "boxes" are just Shapes that get a Stroke, so I can see them, and are sized and positioned, as is required. Often, when I create those, I'll do an Export>Frame from my Video, and use it as a "guide" in PS to position my PiP's. When I Save the alignment guide image, I just turn off visibility for that Video Frame, so that it does not interfere with my alignment guide.

               

              Back in PrE/PrPro, I use the fixed Effect>Motion>Position and Scale to adjust my PiP material to match my alignment guides.

               

              Good luck,

               

              Hunt

              • 4. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                Community Member

                Hi

                 

                I tested the grid idea...works well.  I ended up layering stills with transparency to see the grid and line up ...I did a test title page and stills in the same psd file...and I didn't create an overall background image...but left the screen black (black video) in premiere...can do background image later...this was first time doing a layered psd to premiere...

                I found the grid (especially with the various "weights" of letters in different fonts ( like the letter T or the letter O ) need to be shifted a bit for balance and the grid helps a lot with that, as well as the horizontal postition of the images.  For some reason the images appear to go into layer OK vertically (centered at least, and can adjust from there depending again on "weight" issue), but horizontally they are off a bit (not centered exactly) all the time.

                At any rate, I can see how the grid helps to get a reference for lining things up...so thanks for uploading that and sharing it.

                 

                I ended up using the eyeball and transparency a lot in psd, finally turning everything on and opaque before saving for import to premiere, and when in premiere I did what you suggested..put the grid on top video channel and it worked well.

                 

                Rod

                 

                 

                 

                ps. I'm finding it fun to do my own cross dissolves...so they aren't all the same exactly.  Takes time though...so I can see big benefit to just using preset with a lot of images to deal with.

                • 5. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                  the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                  For some really Fun Transitions, try Keyframing Effect>Levels. Now, there are a lot of possible variations, but with patience, experimentation and a bunch of Keyframes, you can get some neat effects.

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                    the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                    Here is a look at a custom PiP "grid," which allows me to hit the Position and Scale easily. I do a custom one for every PiP Project, and just define my desired matrix in each one:

                    Alignment_Grid_01.jpg

                     

                    Hunt

                    • 7. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                      N.A.Majeed Community Member

                      Hai Bill Hunt,

                       

                      Your postings are very helpful...

                       

                      I have one requirement in Picture in Picture format as below,

                       

                      I want to play the first window video first, then second and so on in this configuration and while playing one of them others have to show as still.

                       

                      Regards,

                      amn

                      • 8. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                        the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                        Ann,

                         

                        To have the PiP Videos appear to be "paused," you would just add a Frame Capture Still Image, of the necessary Duration, to the Head of the Video. The process for doing the Frame Capture Still Image will differ by the version of Premiere that you have. In some versions, it's as simple as clicking on a little "camera" icon, to a rather convoluted process, involving Adobe Media Encoder (AME). One must check the Help File for their particular version for doing Frame Capture.

                         

                        Note: if, when the individual PiP Videos have run, if you then want them to appear "paused," just do a Frame Capture of the last Frame, and add that Still Image to the end, and extend it for the necessary Duration.

                         

                        Good luck, and hope that helps.

                         

                        Hunt

                        • 9. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                          N.A.Majeed Community Member

                          Many Many Thanks........

                           

                          It is very very helpful... I will use it soon for my coming project...

                           

                          I hope I am not inturrepting you!!!!!

                           

                          I have one more doubt...

                           

                          I have one project in adobe pre.pro CS5, with the aspect ratio of 15:9 and rendered to DVD. My problem is when I am seeing this video on normal TV, missing some portion of video from left and right. So is there any solution to adjust it automatically according to the TV screen size. Or how can I render this project to the ratio of 4:3 by putting blank space on top and bottom.

                           

                          I am very thankful to you for your great support..

                           

                          Regards,

                          amn

                          • 10. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                            the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                            Amn,

                             

                            I would post to the PrPro CS 5 & 5.5 Forum, with the full specs. of your Source Footage, and your Sequence Preset, plus your output settings.

                             

                            That would be a better place to address your issue, than here, as almost no one will see your post, and respond. The PrPro Forum will get you a lot more "eyes," and help.

                             

                            Good luck, and will see you in the PrPro Forum.

                             

                            Hunt

                            • 11. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                              N.A.Majeed Community Member

                              thanks a lot for your time...

                               

                              amn,

                              • 12. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                                the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                You are most welcome, and looks like you got the info needed on the PrPro forum.

                                 

                                Hunt

                                • 13. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                                  the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                  One can also use such Grids/Guides to create custom Title Safe and Action Safe Areas. Just remember to NOT Export with that custom Guide!

                                   

                                  Hunt

                                  • 14. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                                    Brett Delmage Community Member

                                    Thanks for this Bill! Just saved me creating my own.

                                    Brett

                                    • 15. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                                      the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                      Brett,

                                       

                                      Glad that those alignment grids worked for you.

                                       

                                      Aside from the more "general" grids, I create custom ones, when doing something like PiP, so that I can hit the exact Position and Scale, over and over.

                                       

                                      Good luck,

                                       

                                      Hunt

                                      • 16. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                                        silviaedgar Community Member

                                        Wow, this solved a huge dilemma I was having.  Thank so much not only for the info on how to do this, but for also providing the grids as well! 

                                        • 17. Re: Alignment Grids for Titler in PrE & PrPro
                                          the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                          You are most welcome, and glad that the article and the grids have helped.

                                           

                                          Happy editing,

                                           

                                          Hunt