19 Replies Latest reply: Apr 8, 2012 10:40 AM by Noel Carboni RSS

    The header toolbox

    moonlightgal

      One thing I'n finding really annoying:

       

      When you scan your mouse/pen over the file/edit/image/lay/type/selct etc areas, the drop down menus on occasion cover the options. For eg. I could have my mouse on edit looking for an option but decide maybe what I'm looking for is in image. I can't just move over to Image and it's drop down menus. I have to click outside the drop down box to close it and then scan my mouse over Image. This can also be annoying if I inadvertently scan over one of the ones I don't want on my way to the one I do want.

        • 1. Re: The header toolbox
          Noel Carboni Community Member

          What system are you using?  Mac or PC?  I don't see what you're describing.  Everything drops strictly downward. 

           

          Do you have a small screen, to where the whole sub-menu won't fit vertically?

           

          Here's what I'm seeing (you may have to click on this to see it animate):

           

          MenusOpeningDownward.gif

           

          -Noel

          • 2. Re: The header toolbox
            moonlightgal Community Member

            ..

             

            I use a PC (64 bit) and Windows 7.

             

             

            PSCS6_eg1.jpg

             

            PSCS6_eg2.jpg

            • 3. Re: The header toolbox
              Noel Carboni Community Member

              You have your UI settings up so large that the menu doesn't fit vertically within the boundaries of the screen.

               

              You can't have big fonts in menus that long and see things over the top of the menus.  That's not Photoshop but basic Windows operation.  You could change your display settings to make the menu fonts smaller.

               

              -Noel

              • 4. Re: The header toolbox
                moonlightgal Community Member

                That could be a problem. I my settings up a bit because of eyesight issues.

                • 5. Re: The header toolbox
                  Noel Carboni Community Member

                  I'm sorry to say it sounds like a monitor with more vertical pixels or the ongoing inconvenience of having to work around super large menus are pretty much your only options.

                   

                  -Noel

                  • 6. Re: The header toolbox
                    moonlightgal Community Member

                    Just for giggles.... I checked and my desktop settings are at small icon. Please specifiy what settings exactly are you referring too? I know my firefox settings are up. Does that affect PS?

                    • 7. Re: The header toolbox
                      Pete.Green Employee Hosts

                      You might have a look at the

                      Start > Control Panel > Ease of Access Center

                       

                      Then under the "Explore all settings", click "Make the computer easier to see"

                       

                      Then scroll down to the "Make things on the scren larger" section, and click "Change the size of text and icons"

                       

                      This should all take you to the "Display" control panel, where you can change the size of text and other items on screen.

                       

                      I'm guessing yours is set to Larger - 150%, is that right?

                      You might try a smaller option if that suits your liking.

                       

                      You will need to log off, and then log back in to see the changes.

                       

                      Let us know how it goes!

                      • 8. Re: The header toolbox
                        moonlightgal Community Member

                        Actually it was set to med. 125%0

                         

                        After changing it to small and restarting the system, I reopened PS. The problem in that way seems resolved.

                        • 9. Re: The header toolbox
                          station_one Community Member

                          "The header toolbox"?  ??? !

                           

                          You mean the Menu Bar!   

                           

                          Don't mean to nit pick, but using the correct terminology is very helpful in a forum.  I honestly had no idea what you were talking about until I saw the screen shots.

                           

                          Great job Noel and Pete.

                          • 10. Re: The header toolbox
                            Noel Carboni Community Member

                            On another subject, moonlightgal, looking carefully at the above screen shots, do you feel the text in your images or mine seems to have more more color fringing?  It's pretty clear we have our systems set up to smooth fonts assuming the opposite arrangement of tiny colored stripes in the display (i.e., via the ClearType Tuner).

                             

                            If you feel mine looks more color-fringed than yours, you're set up properly.

                             

                            -Noel

                            • 11. Re: The header toolbox
                              R_Kelly Community Member

                              Im curious as to what screen resolutuion your set at and are you using the default windows 7 aero theme?

                              • 12. Re: The header toolbox
                                R_Kelly Community Member

                                Something else your might try is the windows classic theme, if the small text setting is too small.

                                With windows classic you should be able to go back to 125%.

                                • 13. Re: The header toolbox
                                  moonlightgal Community Member

                                    Been pretty tired lately. Proper names escaped me that day.

                                   

                                  I am not using the aero's theme. I do a fair amount of photography. Sometimes I'll take a shot that makes me smile and will use that image as my theme. 1680 x 1050 is my current resolution.

                                  • 14. Re: The header toolbox
                                    moonlightgal Community Member

                                    I looked closely at yours and believe yours has more fringing.

                                    • 15. Re: The header toolbox
                                      Noel Carboni Community Member

                                      That's the opposite of what I see.  I assume you must have run the ClearType Tuner to make the font smoothing look better.

                                       

                                      It's likely you have a monitor that reverses the typical Red - Green - Blue orientation of the tiny colored stripes on the monitor display, for which the font-smoothing algorithms pre-compensate.  What brand and model is it?  Just curious.  I have a pair of (older) Dell Ultrasharp 2001 FPs.

                                       

                                      -Noel

                                      • 16. Re: The header toolbox
                                        moonlightgal Community Member

                                        Westinghouse. It's one that someone else gave to me.

                                        • 17. Re: The header toolbox
                                          R_Kelly Community Member

                                          One thing i did notice is your not running photoshop at fullscreen (the program window is not maximized) that would probably help with the menus at at bigger text dpi settings.

                                          Also if you don't want to maximize, moving the application window more towards the top of the screen would probably help with the menus at larger text dpi settings.

                                          • 18. Re: The header toolbox
                                            moonlightgal Community Member

                                            I don't run it at full screen. I have dual monitors. Full screen items tend to be annoying to me.

                                            • 19. Re: The header toolbox
                                              Noel Carboni Community Member

                                              I know EXACTLY what you mean, moonlightgal; I have exactly the same feelings and from the sounds of things I work like you do.  I like to keep the edges of desktop shortcuts I might choose to use visible at the top and bottom.  I could see from your screenshot you do too (mine was cropped to the edge of Photoshop).

                                               

                                              Unfortunately, with menus as long as those in Photoshop, I think you'd either just need a much larger monitor or use a smaller font size to get them all to fit.  I'm not really fond of the idea of subdividing Photoshop's large menus into more sub-menus, as those take more effort to get to.

                                               

                                              Maybe you should consider a Dell U3011 monitor upgrade. 

                                               

                                              -Noel