10 Replies Latest reply on Apr 9, 2012 3:55 AM by Dubai_Dave

Can you help me retouching hair?

Dubai_Dave Apr 7, 2012 11:52 PM

I've got a problem and I can't seem to get it right, I'm hoping you wizards can help me

We did a shoot and they now want a blonde woman to be a brunette, a bit mad I know but that's what the client wants. Now Cutting the hair out and using refine edges just doesn't get me a good mask (using CS 5 on a mac here). See the images attached.

Once done I'm getting close with the hair but I still don't think it's natural - but as you can see I have feathered edges on the dark hair and I need to get them unfeathered and looking good.

Can anyone help me or give me any tips on what to do?

Thanks!

Dave

1. Re: Can you help me retouching hair?

c.pfaffenbichler Apr 8, 2012 2:20 AM (in response to Dubai_Dave)

You may have to manually create a Mask and also decontaminate both hair and background.
Could you post a higher res (section of the) image?
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c.pfaffenbichler Apr 8, 2012 2:25 AM (in response to Dubai_Dave)

And are you doing retouching in CMYK instead of the original RGB?
If so: Bad idea, in my opinion.
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Dubai_Dave Apr 8, 2012 3:07 AM (in response to Dubai_Dave)

I did create the mask using a brush and then refine edges but still get the feathered effect - and yeah CMYK but could do it in RGB. The issue is the correct election / mask which is very difficult.

I think on here it downsamples the image anyway? Could I email t to you to take a look for any advice?

Thanks,
Dave
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c.pfaffenbichler Apr 8, 2012 3:18 AM (in response to Dubai_Dave)

It downsamples the image displayed in the thread, but if one clicks on that one can get a bigger image – not sure what maximal dimensions/size, though.
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Trevor.Dennis Apr 8, 2012 4:16 AM (in response to c.pfaffenbichler)

I'm not going to even try it at that res. I have a feeling the limit is governed by file size rather than pixels.
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Dubai_Dave Apr 8, 2012 4:26 AM (in response to Trevor.Dennis)

try this:

http://wtrns.fr/XP60NgDp2ydld6W
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c.pfaffenbichler Apr 9, 2012 2:36 AM (in response to Dubai_Dave)

It would appear that image has already be edited in a somewhat unfortunate manner.
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Dubai_Dave Apr 9, 2012 3:36 AM (in response to c.pfaffenbichler)

yeah I had another layer on hair on top of that so that's not on the original.

Anyway, I just can't see how it can be done looking natural. The fact that it's so blonde coming over a white top with her skin showing through means it could take days and days.

What do you think?
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9. Re: Can you help me retouching hair?

c.pfaffenbichler Apr 9, 2012 3:43 AM (in response to Dubai_Dave)

I think it is a task where automatic selection may be of limited help and a lo tot manual work may have to be put into it – but hardly days and days.
And like I hinted at in post 1 it might be helpful to manually remove the background in the foreground and vice versa.
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10. Re: Can you help me retouching hair?

Dubai_Dave Apr 9, 2012 3:55 AM (in response to c.pfaffenbichler)

Ok guys, thanks for all your help.
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