15 Replies Latest reply: Apr 12, 2012 4:43 PM by Clouse Photo RSS

    image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed

    Clouse Photo

      From a jpg cropped a 24.444 in X 19.556 in at 72 dpi image to 300dpi 10 in X 8 in image - image failed to crop.  Tried again with the 300dpi size I wanted - it again failed to crop.

        • 1. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
          Clouse Photo Community Member

          Only way is to make it a new preset - 300dpi 10X8 for every size I want to use - it has to be a preset - can't figure out another way of doing this.

          • 2. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
            SCW_K7OSE

            Yes I agree, the "new crop tool is a step backward"   It really only changes the ratio even on a preset. Example: preset 13 x19@ 240 Res.. make a preset and when it auto shows you the crop you click OK

            and the images is cropped to that ratio, but wrong numbers, then you have to go and change the "image size " box to 13" x 19" with no help menu I must be missing something??

            The demo(all) never crop to a set fix size...

            don

            • 3. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
              Clouse Photo Community Member

              I use the 300dpi size for almost everything I do – we have a large photographic printer that prints full size at 300 dpi only. To have to figure out a work around and then train all staff members is going to be a pain unless they rewrite the logarithms to fix this bug.  Hope they look at this situation or make a change in the instructions to make this easier to work around very soon.

               

              Hugh Clouse

              • 4. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                Noel Carboni Community Member

                It's pretty simple to enter the values to do such a crop, and you can certainly set yourself a preset, which will make it even easier in the future.

                 

                I sense that most of what's being said in this thread is just unfamiliarity tempered with a bit of resistance to change.  You should try to understand the tools before complaining.

                 

                Crop1.jpg

                 

                Crop2.jpg

                 

                Crop3.jpg

                 

                 

                -Noel

                • 5. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                  SCW_K7OSE Community Member

                  Noel that fine if you only want a 8x10 preset.

                  Why do I have to make a preset for each size?

                  Take a full size image and enter custom 14 x 11 click the check box? what size do you get?

                  My 23.4" x 15.6 " becomes 17.333 x 15.6... (the ratio is correct) now I must go to image size and enter 14x11 to correct the crop tool!!!

                   

                  does this look like a better/faster way...what an I missing?

                  don

                  • 6. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                    Noel Carboni Community Member

                    You don't have to make a preset.  I mentioned that because (I had thought) Clouse Photo described needing to do the same crop multiple times.

                     

                    Just enter all the pertinent info in the Size & Resolution dialog, as shown above, which pops open if you hit the R key while the Crop Tool is active.  These are the same fields you had before, just presented differently.

                     

                    I'm not saying this is quite as obvious/convenient as when all the fields were right out there in the open all the time, but the Crop Tool now has MORE functionality overall, so the interface was changed.  And it clearly IS possible to do what you want in one shot.

                     

                    Adobe is at the point now where what you see is what you're going to get - they're not going to make changes to the UI in any big way at this stage of the game.  I fully understand if you feel this is not as convenient as it once was, but it's time to start to learn to use it the new way, because it is what it is.

                     

                    -Noel

                    • 8. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                      Noel Carboni Community Member

                      Noel Carboni wrote:

                       


                      which pops open if you hit the R key while the Crop Tool is active

                       

                      I may have been wrong about that.  I thought I had managed that once before.

                       

                      But you can get that dialog by selecting the entry I showed above with the mouse.

                       

                      -Noel

                      • 10. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                        Pete.Green Adobe Employee

                        You weren't wrong,

                             you just need to be in the crop modal state before the R key functions to bring up the Size and Resolution dialog box.

                         

                        Select Crop tool

                        Click on the image anywhere once (this puts you in the modal state)

                        Press R (brings up Size and Resolution dialog)

                        • 11. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                          Clouse Photo Community Member

                          Screen shot From    Clouse Photo – supposed to be 10x8@300dpi  cropped and it comes up to 30X24@72dpi – something not right

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                          2nd one with 10X8 @300dpi –Preset worked fine!

                          • 12. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                            Clouse Photo Community Member

                            Cannot seem to get the Size and Resolution dialog box you speak of.

                             

                            Hugh Clouse

                            • 13. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                              SCW_K7OSE Community Member

                              Clouse, click "R" after you activate the crop tool, ... after it is highlighted, click enter, or click inside the image once to see it become active( rules of thrids etc.) then  letter "R" will bring up box to enter size.

                              don

                              • 14. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                                Tai Luxon Adobe Employee

                                I am unable to tell exactly what you are doing Hugh, because I cannot see the screenshots in your previous posts. If you want to crop to a specific image size and resolution, use the Size & Resolution option found in the popup on the Options bar, as shown in Noel's post. If you do not want a preset to be created, uncheck the "Save as Crop Preset" checkbox at the bottom of the dialog. I think this is the workflow that you want.

                                 

                                If you want to crop to a specific size but do not want the image resampled, you can enter the size, *with units*, in the options bar. Note that the image's resolution will adjust as needed to avoid resampling.

                                 

                                If you just want to crop to a specific aspect ratio and do not care what the image size is, you can enter the ratio *without units* in the options bar. In this case as well, the image will not be resampled. The image's resolution will not be changed and the size will depend on how much of the image you select.

                                 

                                Hope that helps.

                                • 15. Re: image crop to 8x10@300dpi failed
                                  Clouse Photo Community Member

                                  Yes that makes so much sense but why did they have to take the dpi off the original bar in the first place – the bar is long enough, dpi doesn’t take that much room and it saves having to jump through this hoop to get where you want to be.  I have to train a bunch of CS4 and CS3 users in my staff when we change over to CS6.  I am still working through the Adobe Photoshop CS5 by Scot Kilby to catch up on all the things I have missed in CS5.  I guess that is the new and improved learning curve!

                                   

                                  Hugh