7 Replies Latest reply: Apr 11, 2012 9:58 PM by richc314159 RSS

    how to install 32bit Premiere Element 10 on 64bit Windows7?

    richc314159 Community Member

      Premiere Elements 10 comes with 32bit and 64bit programs.  The 2 versions each use different codecs.  My camera manufacturer only supplies 32bit codecs, so the 64bit Premiere Elements 10 program cannot work with my camera's video files.  The 32bit program works with the 32bit codecs that came with my camera, but the 32bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10 installer will not permit installation on a 64bit Windows7 (the error message directs the 64bit Premiere Elements 10 program be installed instead).

       

      Have repeatedly contacted Adobe.  They alternately tell me to install the 32 bit program, but haven't offered any instructions as to how to get the installer to run on a 64bit Windows7 OS.  64bit Windows7 should run any 32bit or 64bit app, so I'm hoping someone can provide insight (or hopefully instructions) on how to perform 32bit install.

       

      Note, already have tried Windows compatibility mode for forcing installation.  This gets past the installer restriction for 64bit OS, but installer still fails.

        • 1. Re: how to install 32bit Premiere Element 10 on 64bit Windows7?
          the_wine_snob Community Member

          Welcome to the forum.

           

          I was wondering why you wanted to install the 32-bit version on a 64-bit OS, but you explained it well.

           

          I do not have a direct answer for you, but you might want to take a look at this FAQ Entry from the PrPro Forum, as there is a department, just for installation issues.

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: how to install 32bit Premiere Element 10 on 64bit Windows7?
            Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

            There is no reason to install the 32 bit version on a 64 bit version. The 64 bit version has to do with how the program interacts with operating system -- not your codecs.

             

            And what model of camcorder and format of video is this anyway? Is it standard camcorder video? If so, it's not 32-bit or 64-bit dependent. (Though some people have found capturing from tape-based video sometimes works better when the operating system using Legacy Drivers for the FireWire hardware.)

             

            That said, you can just install the 32 bit version on 64 bit Windows 7 if you'd like. Versions prior to version 10 only came in 32 bit versions. But it's a little like trying to run a marathon in a pair of work boots. You can do it -- but why cripple yourself when the other technology is designed to work more efficiently?

            • 3. Re: how to install 32bit Premiere Element 10 on 64bit Windows7?
              the_wine_snob Community Member

              The 64 bit version has to do with how the program interacts with operating system -- not your codecs.

               

              Steve,

               

              Are you certain about that?

               

              The reason that I ask is that when PrPro CS 5 went 64-bit, users had to wait until many vendors rewrote their CODEC's, and also the Effects, some of which is still a "work in progress."

               

              Just curious,

               

              Hunt

              • 4. Re: how to install 32bit Premiere Element 10 on 64bit Windows7?
                richc314159 Community Member

                Steve, 32bit codecs and 64bit codecs are distinct.  64 bit programs cannot use 32 bit codecs.  The OS is itself a program, and 64bit Windows7 needs 64bit codecs if you want thumbnails to be able to preview files.  Whether or not you need 32bit codecs or 64bit codecs depends upon whether the application you want to run is 32bit or 64bit (windows7 runs both 32bit and 64bit applications).  64bit applications can't link / call 32bit DLLs directly, or vice versa.

                 

                Correct, video file formats are not 32bit or 64bit.  But codecs that support any given file format are.  Not all manufacturers of cameras provide 64bit codecs.  My camera manufacturer does not provide 64bit codecs, but is listed on Adobe's Premiere Elements 10 as a supported camera.  I have tested and verified that it does work with Adobe Premiere Elements 10 ... but only a machine with 32bit OS where I can install the 32bit application.

                 

                No, you can't "just install the 32 bit version on 64 bit windows 7 if you like".  This forum post wouldn't exist except that the 32 bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10 installer halts displaying an error message if you attempt to install on a 64bit windows7 OS, directing you to please install the 64 bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10 program.  Twice Adobe tech support has told me to just install the 32bit version, but has not responded to the issue that the 32bit installer won't install to a 64bit Windows7 OS.

                 

                 

                >> but why cripple yourself when the other technology is designed to work more efficiently?

                 

                If I could have 64bit support for my camera I would gladly use the 64bit version of Premier Elements 10.  Finding Adobe Premiere Elements 10 lists a camera as supported doesn't mean it will work with both 32bit and 64bit versions, unless there are 32bit and 64bit codecs available.  If there are no 64bit codecs, a 32bit application is the better solution (as opposed to no solution).

                • 5. Re: how to install 32bit Premiere Element 10 on 64bit Windows7?
                  the_wine_snob Community Member

                  Now, as CODEC's are installed into the OS, and then used by players, NLE's, etc., I can see Steve's point.

                   

                  Effects/plug-ins are used within the actual program, and are not OS-specific, but program-specific.

                   

                  In the case of PrPro CS 5, the OS HAD to be 64-bit, so everyone went that route. It was THEN, that many had to wait for 64-bit CODEC's to be released. That was pretty much done, before PrE 10 w/ a 32-bit and 64-bit version came about. The people, who wrote Lagarith Lossless, and UT Lossless got busy, and issued 64-bit versions of their CODEC's, but that was to accommodate the OS (where CODEC's are installed), and not directly the NLE program.

                   

                  Does your 32-bit version of the CODEC install on your 64-bit OS? If so, then it should work with PrE 64-bit. If not, then having the 32-bit version of PrE will make no difference.

                   

                  Yes, upon reflection, I see where Steve was coming from.

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt

                  • 6. Re: how to install 32bit Premiere Element 10 on 64bit Windows7?
                    John T Smith CommunityMVP

                    If you have Win7 64bit PRO or higher, try Microsoft's Virtual XP

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                    Virtual XP is, of course, designed for ANY old 32bit program, not just the EXAMPLE program discussed at this link... so if you have an old 32bit program that won't work with Win7 64bit PRO or higher, it is free to try this to see if it solves your problem

                    .

                    This is only ONE example of using Virtual XP http://forums.adobe.com/thread/702693

                    -And a Tutorial http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/using-windows-7s-xp-mode-step-by-step/

                    • 7. Re: how to install 32bit Premiere Element 10 on 64bit Windows7?
                      richc314159 Community Member

                      Bill,

                       

                      Appreciate your comments.  32bit codecs from manufacturer install on 64bit Windows7 and support any 32bit app.  That includes 32bit windows media player and camera's manufacturer specific video edit program.  But I differ that 64bit apps can use 32bit codecs.  32bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10 works with manufacturer's 32bit codecs when installed to a 32bit Windows (which unfortunately is not my current workstation which is 64bit Windows7).

                       

                      One of my camera's is Creative Vado HD, and it is my impression that Creative does not feel compelled to supply 64bit codecs since they supply their own video editor 32bit app.  Of course, I cannot combine clips from multiple cameras on a manufacturer specific one-camera edit app.

                       

                      Adobe Premiere Elements 10 explicitly names the Creative Vado HD as a supported camera on Adobe's website ... but apparently not the 64bit version of Premiere Elements 10.  Have tried 3rd party 64bit codecs for H.264/MS-ADPCM which are at best partially functional with the 64bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10 app (they are generic and not camera specific).

                       

                      The other camera is a Canon Vixia HG20 and is fully functional with either 32bit or 64bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10.

                       

                      2 yrs ago I actually tested to insure Adobe Premiere Elements supported both cameras, but that was when I ran a 32bit workstation and Adobe Premiere Elements was only supplied as a 32bit app (ver9 trial I think).  I should have re-verified with Premiere Elements 10 before making the purchase commitment.  I hadn't anticipated that PE10 had gone 64bit and wouldn't support legacy 32bit install.

                       

                      John,

                       

                      Yes, I've verified Adobe Premiere Elements 10 32bit version works with both cameras.  I installed to my old workstation (32bit OS).  Installing under virtual XP is an option on my current 64bit windows7 workstation, and that is something I do for really old apps (like 16bit apps).  Shouldn't be necessary to run a 32bit app in a virtual environment on a 64bit windows7 that runs both 64bit and 32bit apps (half of the windows7 bundled apps are still 32bit).  Still looking for the 32bit installation solution before resorting to that.