14 Replies Latest reply: Apr 24, 2012 6:13 PM by native photo RSS

    Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!

    nvhberkeley Community Member

      1. How do I prevent it from downloading Flickr comments to Lightroom?

       

      2. How do I remove images from the set to be republished?   It keeps republishing images and deleting the text I've entered on Flickr.  I want to decide if and when images are to be republished.

       

      3. How do I remove images from the set to be deleted from Flickr? Trying to find a way to do #2, I checked "remove from collection" -- thinking it would remove the image from the to-be-republished set, and instead it put the image in the set to be deleted it from Flickr. I saw it sitting in that set and couldn't figure out how to prevent it.

       

      In short, how do I manage the images that are pending for Flickr publishing?

       

      Need better control AND better instructions on how to handle this functionality.  It's  nice to not have to publish to Flickr separately, but I'm about to give up on this -- the defaults are messing up my Flickr stream!

        • 1. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
          abazizis Community Member

          If you ever make a mistake while managing flickr plugin photoset... just hit ctrl+z ... it will undo what you have previously done.. I don't really know how deep does the undo will go but give it a try...

           

          I am also customizing the plugin to suit the way flickr behave... there is other plugin that do the same thing but slightly different behavior is Jeffreys Friedl Flickr Plugin. It is quiet good.. but doesn't suit me much... hopefully I can get a working copy of my plugin out soon. I am seriously testing it right now..

          • 2. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
            njl

            There are 2 or 3 other threads relating to these problems.

             

            There seems to be no way to remove images from the 'to be re-published' list other than to actually re-publish them. You only lose information on Flickr if you're using a free account, if you are using a 'Pro' account then the comments, titles etc. are not touched.

             

            To remove an image from the 'To delete' list just drag it back into the published library.

             

            What's most worrying is how images get to require re-publishing.  It can seem quite random but I'm sure there's some logic to what's happening.  For example, if you add any keywords to the images they will require re-publishing, even if you haven't used the 'Develop' module.  I also found that using the Flickr library as a group to create a slideshow that when the process had finished 32 of the 98 images in the set required re-publishing.

             

            This thread and this thread both deal with this issue.

             

            Regards,

            Norman

            • 3. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
              AlanUniqueName Community Member
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              njl wrote:


              You only lose information on Flickr if you're using a free account, if you are using a 'Pro' account then the comments, titles etc. are not touched.

               

               

               

              This is not entirely true... there does not appear a way to add a description for the published set itself at the LR end of the business, but if you use the Flickr web interface to add a description to your published set, then next time you publish from LR the set description is either deleted or over written with blank which is very frustrating.       This is true even if you have a pro account.

               

              Alan.

              • 4. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                njl Community Member

                What can I say?  That doesn't happen for me.

                • 5. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                  AlanUniqueName Community Member

                  Hmmm  Very interesting,  I'll have to investigate it again.  however I did re-test this bug immediately before my post.

                  I'll try it again with a few more of my sets.

                  Thanks for the tip off.

                   

                  Alan

                  • 6. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                    AlanUniqueName Community Member

                    No I still don't get it, I have re-tested it on my other published LR Smart Photosets and still get the bug, and thinking it may be related to it being a Smart Photoset I have re-tested it with a brand new ordinary LR Photoset and still get the bug.

                     

                    Perhaps we are talking at cross purposes, just to make sure.... I am talking about the set description not any comments on the set.

                     

                    See attached image of my flickr page...

                     

                    Bug.jpg

                     

                    I appreciate I am probably off track from the original post so unless I hear something from an expert which acknowledges it as a known bug then I'm feeling inclined to re-post this as a new discussion to see if this problem is just specific to me and I'll do more research - I suspect it is a bug though.

                     

                    Alan.

                    • 7. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                      njl Community Member

                      This set recently had some images re-published and the description (circled) wasn't overwritten.

                       

                      Capture.JPG

                      • 8. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                        nvhberkeley Community Member

                        AlanUniqueName, you're right -- this is a major reason I don't want it republishing without my permission.  Any text that I had to the Flickr single image description field  (haven't tried with sets) gets deleted when Lightroom republishes. And LR republishes if I add a keyword; I don't have to change the *image*.   (And yes, I have a Flickr PRO account.)  On one of the other threads cited by njl (thanks!) people say that just opening an image in Develop will do it.

                         

                        So the problem is that LR does things I don't want it to do (republish, downloading comments);   the effects of those unwanted actions range from annoying to infuriating (deleting descriptions; cluttering up my LR db with Flickr comments).  Republishing is far more troublesome than downloading comments: I often add keywords.  And sometimes I want to fiddle with an image's adjustments without republishing the final result. And I certainly don't want to have to re-write my description!

                         

                        The solution would be to be able to opt out of these 2 functions, i.e., to give users more control. 

                         

                        I have tried dragging images out of the "to delete" set, as well as dragging them out of the to be republished set -- I KNOW the latter doesn't work and I don't think "to delete" worked.  (I've disabled the Flickr publishing function completely so can't go back and test this.)

                         

                        It's clear from the discussion here and on those other threads (which I hadn't found) that there IS NO solution.

                         

                        VERY poor design, Adobe!

                        • 9. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                          AlanUniqueName Community Member
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                          njl wrote:

                           

                          This set recently had some images re-published and the description (circled) wasn't overwritten.

                           

                           

                          Thanks njl ... very helpful,

                           

                          I am now at a total loss as to why yours behaves and mine does not.   I have had a look through all the settings at the LR end and Flickr end to see if there might be something relevant but I cannot see anything that could affect it.

                           

                          I am also at a loss as to where to go from here.   Even though I sympathise with nvhberkeley's views - and there are clearly a number of bugs around publishing, I was trying stay optimistic that this one would be a known bug fixed in 3.1 so would put up with it for now.   But, now you've got me worried that this is either a strange problem with my setup or a subtle intermittent LR bug and hence might not get fixed - which would really begin to annoy me.

                           

                          I think I'll wait 24 hours, and if no one else chips in here I'll raise a new discussion with appropriate title to see if anyone else is seeing this behaviour.

                           

                          Many thanks

                           

                          Alan.

                           

                          PS - Nice Puffin shot - and really loved your owl shots... Sorry couldn't resist peeking!

                          • 10. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                            TK2142 Community Member

                            Alan, on Jun 4, 2010 4:07, John Hollenberg answered to a similar post of you "It is a known bug/design issue.  I don't know if/when it will be fixed.  Extremely annoying, in my opinion.". The thread was here http://forums.adobe.com/message/2860684?tstart=0 but seems to be no longer accessible.

                             

                            Isn't that the kind of confirmation you were seeking?

                            • 11. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                              AlanUniqueName Community Member

                              Thanks,

                               

                              Yes I recall raising this before, however what has thrown me now is njl clearly does now have this issue, hence I'm wondering if it is just me.
                              As a principle, I don't like to start a discussion twice but I would find it useful to get a broader consensus that it genuuinely is an issue / bug.

                              I was hoping that one of the "wise ones" could confirm it is known or raised.

                               

                              I'm still contemplating starting a new thread on it.   I do wish I could check the previous discussion which I presume was in the Beta forum.

                               

                              Regards

                              Alan

                              • 12. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                                LDanielsson Community Member

                                I realize this is an old thread and that the question may have been answered by others. However, I found myself having the same problem and after a bit of digging, I found the very simple solution. Just open the Lightroom Publishing Manager (by double-clicking the Flickr bar in the Publishing Services field). Go to "Flickr Title" and set the "When Updating Photos" to "Leave Existing Title". There you have it.

                                 

                                Regards

                                Lars

                                • 13. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                                  native photo Community Member

                                  Thank you Lars,

                                   

                                  I for one appreciate your post. It solved my problem. I had spent 30 minutes searching for the solution you discribed in 3 or 4 related threads and finally...

                                  • 14. Re: Lightroom 3 Flickr Publish: lack of control?!
                                    native photo Community Member

                                    Just wanted to mention this... I have since added and am using Jeffrey Friedl's jfFlickr plug in.. It is awsome, and it gives you lots more control.

                                     

                                    Jeffrey’s “Export to Flickr” Lightroom Plugin is donationware. It's free for the version that has a per publish limit for the number of photos.. Donate what you think it's worth to you and you get unlimited unlock code. I think you'll like it!