As I posted over at Audio Masters, this looks great -- and thx so much for advising it will still run on XP,
since we run AA on multiple systems and all are currently XP SP3. Do keep us posted as to when
we can get it and cost for the upgrade from CS5.5 - will def. do that
The template feature also seems it will get a lot of use at our studios. For a long time, we have done sort of the
same thing via several workarounds to make various often-used templates (sort-of-templates at least)
with default assignments, busses and sometimes plugs loaded (UA, Izotope, Waves, "AA native" and others)
and set to often used starting settings. We also use many diff workspace templates all the time for
Recall and repeatability are big things for a lot of what we do. It's very often essential with many
projects to be able to go back - even years later -- and get everything back exactly
as it was to then add or re-version something to/from those sessions/projects.
Sometimes clients want to add new material or make changes even inside bits of existing stuff.
And thx for putting back stems exporting (sep files) - a key feature for us - also for Colin's explanation (at Audio
Masters) of enhancements to it -- ditto grouping and several others we really missed in 5.5.
One other thought for possible inclusion later.:
A split and append feature for SESX files, so that you can split a long m/track project into two
(or more) sub-projects (as sometimes dense projects grow even denser as they progress!)
You would designate a split point on the timeline and AA would ask you to provide a new name for
each resulting "sub project".
Everything to left of split point becomes new project 1 and everything to right new project 2, and
perhaps the command provides default names which user can override and enter their own pref.
And then an append feature would simply let you append another SESX project to an existing
one at the end of the existing SESX, or perhaps again at a point on the timeline you select, and
in that case it would insert the other project you specify into the project you are appending it to.
With some of the more recent projects we've been doing using only CS5.5 being more than
4 hours long, this feature would come in quite handy.
A very old hardware/software system we still sometimes use for making CD masters provides that feature and
we've often made good use if it.
Hoping too that maybe we'll be again able to use the Frontier Alphatrack with the new version,
though maybe that will need some work by the Frontier Design Group folks first.
I don't think Alphatrack is fully Mackie protocol compliant, but I'm not sure. It does work pretty well
with AA3- though some features are not implemented. (their AA2 files on their website for
Alphatrack work with AA3) www.frontierdesign.com
Frontier's answer on unimplemented stuff was always that because Audition did not expose those
parameters to ext control, they couldn't implement them at their end -- but since
the architecture changed greatly when AA moved to CS5.5 perhaps that's no longer the
Maybe the Adobe folks could dialog with the Frontier people on that to see what they need?
Anyhow, bravo on this and will look fwd to being able to use the new stuff when it becomes
available -- and to having the old stuff back too.
since Adobe doesn't seem to want to answer my GUI related questions, and you seem to be a beta (or even alpha) tester, can you help out please and tell me whether the following issues have been addressed in CS6?
1. earlier in this thread (I posted this 3 days ago):
"For CS 5.5 I had reported two Edit-view related display bugs (spectral display "dB range" value not saved properly, spectral drawing hick-ups when switching between files). Also, compared to Audition 1.x I noticed a slower live-update of the Frequency Analysis window (i.e. less updates per second) when playing a file. Does this mean all three issues have been solved in the course of implementing the above 3 bullet points?"
2. What I am missing... (I posted this 11 months ago):
"I already submitted two bug reports, and in addition I'd like to mention that the Preferences check box 'Synchronize selection, zoom level, and CTI across files in the Waveform Editor' doesn't cover the vertical zoom level (neither in time nor in spectral view), which it did in version 3. Is there a special reason why this IMHO very useful feature was omitted? Did you just forget about it?"
3. Zooming in Spectral Frequency Display (I also posted this 11 months ago):
"vertical zoom states of waveform and spectrogram in Edit view are not saved when switching to a different file. You have to manually define the zoom state for each file, which makes it very difficult and time consuming to e.g. directly compare two files at user-defined vertical zoom levels (by switching back and forth).
Windows XP SP3, x86. Is this a bug or a feature? It used to work in AA 3 (and 2 IIRC). The horizontal zoom state is kept when switching between files (assuming the corresponding option in the Preferences is checked)."
Maybe I should clarify: at work (and at home) I use Audition to compare waveforms and spectrograms of different files by switching back and forth. I am an audio codec developer at Fraunhofer IIS. So fixing the above 3 issues directly translates into me saving time at work.
Thanks in advance,
Hi Chris, likely we just missed your post above, we're not trying to avoid it certainly ;-)
I would like to have someone validate against our work history this cycle and see if indeed resolved any of these and respond. I'm not in a spot where I can do the research, so have to rely on someone who can.
RE: using AGM (your post above) is around to improvements draw performance for static items (fonts, lines, etc) and likely does not improve specifically feq analysis panel, but that does not mean there wasn't an improvement there that I'm not aware of.
1. The dB scale preference is properly retained when closing Audition. This bug was resolved and I've verified it again this morning. I don't have any specific data on the Frequency Panel frame rate, but if I recall correctly from performance testing, the panel usually achieves at least 30fps in most circumstances. I'll investigate a bit further when I'm in the office Monday and see what I can find.
2 & 3. Horizontal Zoom level and Time/Marquee selections are maintained between files for both Waveform and Spectral view when switching between files with the "Synchronize" preference enabled. Waveform vertical zoom is not. Again, let me double-check the feature description and check-in notes when I'm back in the office to verify.
(follow-up to what Durin mentioned)
On mac, you'll need Flip4Mac just like in Au CS5.5. On Windows, import of WMA is supported without third-party components, but you'll need to turn on DLMS in the Preferences panel.
since Adobe doesn't seem to want to answer my GUI related questions, and you seem to be a beta (or even alpha) tester, can you help out please and tell me whether the following issues have been addressed in CS6? (et seq...)
Only just seen this, but from memory also (unless I go and turn on another machine and play around for a while), I think Durin's nailed it. I don't think that waveform vertical zoom has ever done what you want it to - in order to do that, I believe that the display would have to be re-established at that zoom level every time you went back to the file, and you wouldn't actually save any time at all. What appears to be optimised is the establishment of a basic spectral display. If I wanted to do what you seem to be attempting to do, I'd open-append both files into one display, and put markers at the points I wanted to compare - it's relatively easy to hit those quickly, and under these circumstances the zoom level will remain the same.
Thanks, Colin and Durin, for double-checking. Looking forward to your reports.
And thanks, Steve! The open-append approach you describe sounds like a good work-around. But this must be done manually, right? i.e. I cannot open-append via drag-drop of files onto files already open in Audition, or can I? Regarding
"I don't think that waveform vertical zoom has ever done what you want it to":
You're probably right. So, Durin, Charles, et al: how about adding synchronized vertical waveform zoom to the feature list? (if it's not on the list already, of course.) I know that Audition 2.x (and 3.x IIRC) sync'ed the vertical (frequency) zoom in spectral view, and I hope this feature is re-established in CS6 (is that what you're indicating, Steve?) Because otherwise I have to manually zoom in on each file in the same way (or have to manually open-append, as suggested), which is precisely where I lose time.
Adobe has gone live with all of the CS6 applications, including Audition! Grab the 30-day trial from http://adobe.ly/IrXfBa and dig into it. There has already been a great response over twitter since launch, but I'd love to get feedback from our forum crew as well. Feature Comparison matrix is available at http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/buying-guide-version-comparison .html