4 Replies Latest reply: Apr 17, 2012 10:21 PM by richc314159 RSS

    Trouble finding a 64bit codec to work with 64bit Premiere Elements 10

    richc314159

      I cannot get 64bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10 to correctly import videos from my Creative Vado HD camera.  On the Adobe "supported-devices-premiere-elements.html" it clearly lists the Creative Vado HD flip camera as tested & supported.

       

      Creative only supplies 32bit codecs for the camera.  It works COMPLETELY with 32bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10 (when installed on my prior computer which only had a 32bit Windows Vista).

       

      My current workstation runs 64bit Windows 7, and the 32bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10 installer on Disk1 will not permit installation (attempt ends in an error message instructing that the 64it Adobe Premiere Elements 10 must be installed from Disk2).  I've tried K-Lite 64bit codec pack with the successfully installed 64bit Premiere Elements 10, and I now get video, but audio barely registers from video clips recorded from the camera.

       

      I'm open to any means to get 64bit Premiere Elements 10 working with some 64bit codec.  I'm hoping the properties listed by Premiere Elements may provide some insight (I've listed them below).

       

      I'm also open to any means to get the 32bit Premiere Elements 10 installed on 64bit Windows 7 (64bit Windows 7 is fully capable of running either 32bit and 64bit apps).  Adobe tech support first suggested I simply install the 32bit version from Disk1, and has not respond further when informed that the 32bit installer won't run on 64bit Windows 7.  It's been a month now and Adobe is offering me little to no help after 9 requests to support.

       

       

       

       

       

       

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      properties from Creative Vado HD video clip from 32bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10

       

      File Path: C:\Users\x\Desktop\VID00101.AVI

      Type: AVI Movie

      File Size: 20.7 MB

      Image Size: 1280 x 720

      Frame Rate: 30.00

      Source Audio Format: 44100 Hz - 16 bit - Mono

      Project Audio Format: 44100 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Mono

      Total Duration: 00:00:20:11

      Average Data Rate: 1.0 MB / sec

      Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0

       

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      properties from Creative Vado HD video clip from 64bit Adobe Premiere Elements 10

       

      File Path: C:\Users\x\Desktop\VID00101.AVI

      Type: AVI Movie

      File Size: 20.7 MB

      Image Size: 1280 x 720

      Frame Rate: 30.00

      Source Audio Format: 44100 Hz - compressed - Mono

      Project Audio Format: 44100 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Mono

      Total Duration: 00:00:20:11

      Average Data Rate: 1.0 MB / sec

      Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0

       

      AVI File Details:

      Contains 1 video track(s) and 1 audio track(s)

      Interleave: 1 : 1.39

       

      Video track 1:

      Size is 20.19Mbytes (average frame = 34.56Kbytes)

      There are 62 keyframes, 549 delta frames.

      Frame rate is 30.000 fps

      Frame size is 1280 x 720

      Depth is 24 bits.

      Compressor: 'H264', ffdshow Video Codec

       

      Audio track 1:

      Size is 441.00Kbytes

      Rate is 44100 samples/sec

      Sample size is 16 bits

      Compatible compressor: MS-ADPCM

      Compression ratio is 3.98 : 1

       

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      properties from Creative Vado HD video clip from 64bit Media Player Classic (much more complete properties listing)

       

      General

      Complete name                  : C:\Users\x\Videos\Vado\VID00101.AVI

      Format                         : AVI

      Format/Info                    : Audio Video Interleave

      File size                      : 20.7 MiB

      Duration                       : 20s 367ms

      Overall bit rate               : 8 505 Kbps

       

      Video

      ID                             : 0

      Format                         : AVC

      Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec

      Format profile                 : Main@L4.0

      Format settings, CABAC         : Yes

      Format settings, ReFrames      : 1 frame

      Format settings, GOP           : M=1, N=5

      Codec ID                       : H264

      Duration                       : 20s 367ms

      Bit rate                       : 8 318 Kbps

      Width                          : 1 280 pixels

      Height                         : 720 pixels

      Display aspect ratio           : 16:9

      Frame rate                     : 30.000 fps

      Color space                    : YUV

      Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0

      Bit depth                      : 8 bits

      Scan type                      : Progressive

      Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.301

      Stream size                    : 20.2 MiB (98%)

       

      Audio

      ID                             : 1

      Format                         : ADPCM

      Codec ID                       : 2

      Duration                       : 20s 361ms

      Bit rate mode                  : Constant

      Bit rate                       : 176.4 Kbps

      Channel(s)                     : 1 channel

      Sampling rate                  : 44.1 KHz

      Bit depth                      : 4 bits

      Stream size                    : 441 KiB (2%)

      Interleave, duration           : 46 ms (1.39 video frame)

        • 1. Re: Trouble finding a 64bit codec to work with 64bit Premiere Elements 10
          Steve Grisetti MVP

          Rich, weren't we already deep into this in this other thread?

          http://forums.adobe.com/message/4329012#4329012

           

          Why are you starting a new thread when we are already well into a discussion in the other? It's very confusing.

          • 2. Re: Trouble finding a 64bit codec to work with 64bit Premiere Elements 10
            richc314159

            You are correct, I needn't have reiterated that a 32bit install would also solve the problem which was the topic of the other thread when I'm now asking about codecs.  So I'm now looking for 3rd party 64bit codec suggestions.  Beyond loading a general purpose codec pak I'm unfortunately still not running successfully (but closer).

             

            I don't know if there are any other 64bit codec collections other than K-Lite, or if there are any means of configuring codecs for the a specific media format.  Been googling for anything similar without luck.  Been all over the Creative forums too, but have not found any hint of existance of 64bit codecs for the camera.  Posting a description on the Premiere Elements forum is not a first recourse ... it was more like a last hope.

            • 3. Re: Trouble finding a 64bit codec to work with 64bit Premiere Elements 10
              John T Smith MVP

              >K-Lite

               

              Oops! There have been some reports of that codec pack causing problems that were only solved by formatting the hard drive and installing everything fresh

               

              If you have Win7 64bit PRO or higher, try Microsoft's Virtual XP... this may work to let you install PrEL 10 32bit in a virtual space

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              This is only ONE example of using Virtual XP http://forums.adobe.com/thread/702693

              -And a Tutorial http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/using-windows-7s-xp-mode-step-by-step/

              • 4. Re: Trouble finding a 64bit codec to work with 64bit Premiere Elements 10
                richc314159

                My current workstation is an AMD Phenom II x6 1090T 3.21GHz.  Its SiSoft Sandra benchmark ranker is 9.76kPT (89.05%).  The Microsoft XP Virtual machine running on it ranks a mere 1.77kPT (57.27%) ... Microsoft Virtual PC does not support multiple cores, direct disk access, limited ram, no 3D hardware acceleration, etc.  Unless the machine can run an app native it's not worth running under virtual XP, since my old workstation is a Q6600 2.4GHz quad core that ranks 3.25kPT (84.80%).  Better performance to run it on an older machine than under Virtual XP.

                 

                Essentially, since my camera doesn't have 64bit codecs and Adobe doesn't deem to permit me to install the 32bit app on a 64bit OS I must conclude the Adobe product appears un-usable for my needs on 64bit Windows 7.  I still have my old workstation as backup and as a 32bit Vista OS it supports the Premiere Elements 10.  Virtualization solutions exist that provide closer to physical hardware performance such as VMWare, but that'd be investing more money into something that should be supported native.  This was my mistake not first verifying claimed compatability and support with the trial version.  Adobe should consider noting that 32bit install is not supported on 64bit OS, and footnoting supported camera's with a 32bit / 64bit notation.

                 

                I've had good success running the K-Lite 32bit codec pack for 2 years now, so it was certainly worth a shot trying their 64bit codec pack.

                 

                Thanks for your suggestions.