15 Replies Latest reply on Apr 19, 2012 10:27 PM by John Hawkinson

Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

dcald Apr 19, 2012 1:36 PM

I am having a serious problem with an InDesign file and of course the blueline corrections were due half an hour ago. An image is appearing in my links panel as hidden in overset text. There is no overset text showing in my preflight profile. I can't go to the image since it gives me an error message indicating that it is hidden in overset text. This appeared for the first time in the file a couple of hours ago during which time, I have not placed any images.

Exporting to idml, deleting prefs and other types of options has not helped including going to the structured panel and trying to find the file or preceived file by ID in the Story editor. Is there any other way to remove this image from the Links panel? I believe this is what is also causing my system to slow to a crawl. This is a college schedule which has been linked to InCopy files. I have deleted the links to InCopy in case that was part of the problem but nothing seems to make a difference.

This is a Mac using InDesign CS5.5.

1. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

Manish-Sharma Apr 19, 2012 1:38 PM (in response to dcald)

What happen when you moves the pages in the new document?
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2. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

John Hawkinson Apr 19, 2012 1:42 PM (in response to dcald)

A screenshot would help.

You could also unzip the IDML, find it, edit the idml to remove it, and re-zip.
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3. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

dcald Apr 19, 2012 2:04 PM (in response to Manish-Sharma)

The file is over 70 pages and all pages are threaded. I have moved text boxes off of the page, deleted text boxes but the image is still listed as overset. I have no idea where ID thinks this images exists or if it exists at all. The links panel displays 2 occurances of the same image. The second one is the actual image I placed and displays as being on a particular page. Then there is a second occurance of the same image displayed as overset. This is what is very strange. All of the images are also anchored.
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4. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

dcald Apr 19, 2012 2:05 PM (in response to John Hawkinson)

Not sure what you mean by unzipping the idml.
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5. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

Manish-Sharma Apr 19, 2012 2:15 PM (in response to dcald)

change the extension from IDML to zip with renaming ....then use any unzipping utility to open the file component.
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Manish-Sharma Apr 19, 2012 2:17 PM (in response to dcald)

also, can you check after deleting the page ...which page has that link......?
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7. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

dcald Apr 19, 2012 2:22 PM (in response to Manish-Sharma)

The page that contains the visible image is on page 25, which I have deleted. It no longer shows up in the links panel. But when I click on the other occurance in the Links panel, ID takes me to the end of the file, which is page 70 and highlights that last of the threaded text boxes. That text box has no indication of overset text or any anchored frames.
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8. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

Manish-Sharma Apr 19, 2012 2:23 PM (in response to dcald)

is it possible to share the file?
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dcald Apr 19, 2012 2:34 PM (in response to Manish-Sharma)

OK I did that but am not sure what file contains the element I need to delete.
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10. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

John Hawkinson Apr 19, 2012 2:49 PM (in response to dcald)

The file is over 70 pages and all pages are threaded.
Does that mean it is a single story? You could export the story as InDesign Tagged Text, and then import it to a new document.
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11. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

dcald Apr 19, 2012 2:53 PM (in response to John Hawkinson)

That is what I am in the process of doing right now. I will let you know what happens. Thanks
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12. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

dcald Apr 19, 2012 4:10 PM (in response to John Hawkinson)

It looks like I have to recreate the file, another 6 hours of work after spending all day trying to resolve the issue. I wish it was as simple as just as reflowing it but there are too many column adjustments I had to make, which I try to stay away from, but could not avoid in this file. What is strange is that even after deleting all of the text in this file, all of the images are now listed as OV in the links panel instead of going away. This has happened in the past with InCopy stories but we have been able to delete the links from the panel. Unfortunately, I can't find a way to delete these image links from the Links panel despite the fact that they no longer exist. I will start with a new file and at least flow in the tagged text format but I am now on edge that this could happen again since I do not know the cause.
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13. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

lilia@ Apr 19, 2012 4:15 PM (in response to dcald)

do you by any chance have any layers hidden? the image/s could be on there... and what about the preflight panel... is should tell you where it is.
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14. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

dcald Apr 19, 2012 4:20 PM (in response to lilia@)

Just one layer and it is visible. Preflight indicates that there is no overset text. I spend much of my time troubleshooting for my clients and have been teaching ID for over a decade but this one has really got me stumped.
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15. Re: Image in Links panel displays as overset but may not exist

John Hawkinson Apr 19, 2012 10:27 PM (in response to dcald)

Well, if you post a link to the file we can try to draw some conclusions...
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