19 Replies Latest reply: May 2, 2012 5:13 PM by c_santiago132 RSS

    CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching

    SCAPsinger Community Member

      B&H just posted the launch announcment for CS6. Looks like all the pages are live now. Preorder pricing up as well. (BTW - glad I snagged a CS5.5 upgrade last Thursday, my CS5 > CS6 price would have been $700+ otherwise!)

       

      Creative Cloud is also up and pre-order link showing but it also says "discount for existing customers" or something like that, with a link that goes to nowhere. I'm sure that detail will be fleshed out later today.

       

      Official ship date estimation showing on the Adobe site as May 7th across the board. Two more weeks to discuss all the awesome projects we're going to be cutting soon!

        • 1. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
          SCAPsinger Community Member

          Aha....link is fixed on Creative Cloud pricing...looks like it's only $29.99/month for existing Creative Suite users, going all the way back to CS3 - very nice for the folks who would otherwise be looking at a $1,000 upgrade cost (or more). Instead, even at the promotional rate for one year and the full rate for another, you're still getting an excellent deal.

           

          Well...might be returning my CS5.5 upgrade (aka - "free" CS6 upgrade) back to Adobe. For the same price I'll be getting the Creative Cloud subscription and a lot more than just the production suite.

          • 2. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
            tclark513 Community Member

            All apps for 30.00 a month??  What's the catch?  Seems like a greta deal.  I wonder what will happen after the first year?

            • 3. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
              SCAPsinger Community Member

              tclark513 wrote:

               

              I wonder what will happen after the first year?

               

              It goes UP

               

              Well, maybe...if it's very successful, Adobe may not need to up the price. Even still, it's a pretty decent deal at $49 if you are like me and use Production suite PLUS one or two other apps (in my case, Acrobat and Dreamweaver).

               

              I'm actually more concerned with what happens if 2 years from now, after 24 months of subscription, I decide to go with a perpetual license again. Right now, the way the agreements are all written out, I'd be looking at a $750 purchase to do that (upgrading CS5 to CS6 at the current prices, assuming it's not an upgrade to CS7 which would of course cost a little more still).

               

              So that's really the "hump" that everyone will have to decide to get over or not....because the way it looks, once you're into Creative Cloud, it's for good.

               

              I'm not terribly concerned. I've always upgraded with the exception of 5.5, but not as much for price so much as I didn't really need it. The Creative Cloud pricing will still save me money for the foreseeable future, based on how I've purchased in the past.

              • 4. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                tclark513 Community Member

                The info reads download EVERY CS app for 29.99.  It sounds like you shouldn't get charged more for having a few extra apps from your original production premium.

                 

                Adobe's quote:

                 

                While a subscription gives you ongoing access to one Creative Suite application for a low monthly price, an Adobe Creative Cloud membership gives you access to all Adobe Creative Suite 6 desktop applications,  plus additional tools and services that allow you to take your creative idea from concept to publishing. Creative Cloud will deliver continuous value to members by providing immediate access to new features, tools, apps, services, and upgrades as they become available. Learn more about Creative Cloud membership options.

                • 5. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                  SCAPsinger Community Member

                  tclark513 wrote:

                   

                  The info reads download EVERY CS app for 29.99.  It sounds like you shouldn't get charged more for having a few extra apps from your original production premium.

                   

                   

                  Correct...I was simply pointing out that it's a very good deal for people like me who currently already have additional apps OUTSIDE of their primary suite (Production, Web, Design). Previously those were 3 separate product upgrades for me, now it'll be just one with the Creative Cloud.

                  • 6. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                    J. Simon Community Member

                    I'm seeing this as a really good deal for me, too.  I was concerned about a few things, but the FAQ hit all my questions (with the answers I wanted to hear, no less!).

                     

                    I already checked, and I qualify for the reduced pricing.  We have until August to decide, but I'm leaning very heavily towards the Cloud.

                    • 7. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                      tclark513 Community Member

                      Jim Simon wrote:

                       

                      I'm seeing this as a really good deal for me, too.  I was concerned about a few things, but the FAQ hit all my questions (with the answers I wanted to hear, no less!).

                       

                      I already checked, and I qualify for the reduced pricing.  We have until August to decide, but I'm leaning very heavily towards the Cloud.

                       

                      Ditto...

                      • 8. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                        SCAPsinger Community Member

                        Well I'm bound for the cloud....put in my pre-order yesterday, sending back my CS5.5 upgrade that I ordered last week.

                         

                        Gotta say I still feel a bit like I'm walking out on the ledge. I know for certain that Year 1 of the Creative Cloud is the right decision, but after that, when they remove the promotional pricing (assuming that they decide to do so), then the pricing becomes not quite such the obvious winner, but even still, over the long run, it's not going to really cost me more than I paid before, and it will give me access to more tools than I would with the perpetual license.

                         

                        So who out there is joining me on the Creative Cloud? Any other takers here yet?

                        • 9. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                          Community Member

                          interview yesterday ...bloomberg news with ceo adobe about cloud, new direction of company , chance of apple buying adobe , etc.

                           

                          http://www.bloomberg.com/video/91240482/

                          • 10. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                            J. Simon Community Member

                            chance of apple buying adobe

                             

                            NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

                             

                            http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YRHDomoLb-A/TLod5-GaCbI/AAAAAAAAAkE/FH5cpb9_XZ8/s1600/_nooooooooooo.jpg

                            • 11. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                              Community Member

                              " trust the force, Luke....the CLOUD ! "

                              • 12. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                                SCAPsinger Community Member

                                Jim Simon wrote:

                                 

                                chance of apple buying adobe

                                 

                                NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

                                 

                                http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YRHDomoLb-A/TLod5-GaCbI/AAAAAAAAAkE/FH5cpb9_XZ8/s1600/_nooooooooooo.jpg

                                 

                                HA! But remember, Luke was able to turn even Darth Vader from the dark side in the end.

                                • 13. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                                  J. Simon Community Member

                                  Very true.

                                   

                                  But I suspect that even from within, Adobe will not be able to wipe Apple and all their products from the face of the earth (which is my personal goal) and pull everyone into the light of Windows.

                                  • 14. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                                    RDA972 Community Member

                                    Just out of curiosity, Jim, why do you detest Apple and its products to the point of obsession? 

                                    • 15. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                                      J. Simon Community Member

                                      Two reasons.

                                       

                                      First, I personally just don't like the UI and how things work on a Mac.  (I mean, I reeeeeally don't like it.)  But that's just my personal preference.  It would probably be left at that if Mac usage wasn't so prevalent in our industry.  Macs make up only about 7% or 8% of the worlds computer users, but probably much better than 50% of film/video production users.  It's very, very tough to get a job out there without having to work on a UI I just can't stand.

                                       

                                      Secondly, Macs do certain things differently.  Not better, mind you, just different.  Like MOV instead of AVI for video, AIFF instead of WAV for audio, and HFS+ instead of NTFS for file systems, DisplayPort instead of VGA or DVI for output, etc.  Those differences cause compatibility issues that could easily be avoided if Macs simply did things the way most of the world does things.  Yes, there are ways around most of those differences, but it can still be a PITA to deal with. It's a situation I'd prefer just didn't exist.

                                      • 16. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                                        tclark513 Community Member

                                        Jim Simon wrote:

                                         

                                        Two reasons.

                                         

                                        First, I personally just don't like the UI and how things work on a Mac.  (I mean, Ireeeeeally don't like it.)  But that's just my personal preference.  It would probably be left at that if Mac usage wasn't so prevalent in our industry.  Macs make up only about 7% or 8% of the worlds computer users, but probably much better than 50% of film/video production users.  It's very, very tough to get a job out there without having to work on a UI I just can't stand.

                                         

                                        Secondly, Macs do certain things differently.  Not better, mind you, just different.  Like MOV instead of AVI for video, AIFF instead of WAV for audio, and HFS+ instead of NTFS for file systems, DisplayPort instead of VGA or DVI for output, etc.  Those differences cause compatibility issues that could easily be avoided if Macs simply did things the way most of the world does things.  Yes, there are ways around most of those differences, but it can still be a PITA to deal with. It's a situation I'd prefer just didn't exist.

                                         

                                        Not to mention they charge an arm and a leg for something you really can't upgrade easily.

                                        • 17. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                                          c_santiago132 Community Member

                                          heres my question, i can buy cs6 master collection student price and pay 799, or the clod thing for 29 for first year...what if they boost the price for 100 a month??? ill be 1200 a year for the license?? what if u cant afford it, u just lost all your money of previous year and ended up with nothing, so thats my dilemma. any thoughts anyone?

                                          • 18. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                                            J. Simon Community Member

                                            That's the same issue you face when it comes to buying or renting a home, buying or leasing a car.  The monthly payment can always go up at the end of the rental term, and there's not much you can do about it except pay more, or find another product in your price range.  You'l just have to weigh the advantages of both buying and renting (and both do have advantages), and decide which is right for you.

                                            • 19. Re: CS6 and Creative Cloud Launching
                                              c_santiago132 Community Member

                                              Exactly! I think is better just to buy the normal one to be save. People might say "it has muse " learn how to code then! Hahah things like that you can learn it on your own without paying a subscription   I'm better off buying the master collection for 800 to be safe

                                               

                                              Regards;

                                              Carlos Santiago

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