19 Replies Latest reply on Jan 18, 2018 9:56 PM by brynin

    Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover

    eb.munson

      I exported a project as a pdf by clicking Save As under the file menu, then I saved the original psd by choosing Save As again and selecting PSD this time.  When I came back to the project today all the layers had been merged into one.  I _never_ merged them myself.  Is there any way I can recover all that work or have I been hosed by this "feature"?

        • 1. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
          Trevor.Dennis Adobe Community Professional (Moderator)

          Hi and welcome to the forum.   The answer to your question depends on whether you have closed the image file in Photosho since you di the Save as.  if not you can step back through History.  If that is the case, then open the History panel from the Window menu.  If you have closed the file between the save as, and noticing the problem, you are out of luck.   It is a good idea to use a different name when saving a PSD file as a JPG or PDF, because there is always the chance you will do a reflex Ctrl/Cmd s later on, and overwrite the PSD file.  I have done it myself more than once.

          • 2. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
            c.pfaffenbichler Level 8

            Is there any way I can recover all that work or have I been hosed by this "feature"?

            You have very probably messed up yourself; as Trevor mentioned others have committed errors on such operations, too, but trying to lay the blame on the application will do you little good. 

             

            If you save a copy off of a file you may want to check »As a Copy« when doing the Save As in the future, that way the open document stays the file it has been before.

            • 3. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
              Ulrich Stern Level 1

              I just ran into this, also, during my first couple of hours with Photoshop.  I think Photoshop deserves a fair amount of blame here.  If both experienced users and novices run into this, to me, it sounds like the UI can and should be improved!  If I never flatten and save a PSD, I expect my layers to be there -- whether I saved as PDF before or not.

              • 4. Re: Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                Noel Carboni Level 7

                There is a multiple-step process that leads to the saving of a PSD file without the [ ] Layers checkbox set.

                 

                After saving a PDF, the next time you go to save as a PSD, make sure the [ ] Layers checkbox gets re-set.

                 

                -Noel

                • 5. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                  c.pfaffenbichler Level 8
                  If I never flatten and save a PSD, I expect my layers to be there -- whether I saved as PDF before or not.

                  If you save as a pdf but do not save »As a Copy« I think you should not try to blame Adobe.

                  • 6. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                    Ulrich Stern Level 1

                    I care less about blame and more about improving the UI.  In this case, my guess is a fix would require, say, tens of hours for Adobe and would save a large multiple of this in users' time...

                    • 7. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                      alisong83764930

                      I have the same issue. I 'saved as" a jpg (so it had a different extension) and it still went and flattened my file. At first, I thought I might have saved the flattened psd before I saved it as a jpg, but I have done 4 subsequent tests with the same outcome. Photoshop is massively flawed and Adobe pretends that we are all idiots for not knowing how to use it.

                      • 8. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                        c.pfaffenbichler Level 8
                        I have done 4 subsequent tests with the same outcome.

                        Please provide screenshots (including the pertinent Panels) to illustrate your claim.

                        One cannot save a layered file as a jpg so you most likely saved a copy but what did you do with the open, layered file exactly – simply not save on closing despite the dialog/question?

                        • 9. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                          D Fosse Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                          c.p. is right, that's how it works. Saving out a layered file as jpeg makes a copy. So the question is what you did with the still open original PSD.

                          • 10. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                            alisong83764930 Level 1

                            I didn't day I saved a layered file as a jpg. It's not possible. I have worked the same way now for 25 years: save my psd before I'm ready to flatten, then flatten and go 'save as' and select jpg. The psd stays in tact as a layered file and I have my flattened jpg to place. Apart from the odd mindless save after flattening, this has always worked.

                             

                            What would the point be of a screenshot? It is just going to show you one layer while the file extension is .psd.

                             

                            Just a hint, C Pfaffenbichler: please refrain from using words like 'illustrate your CLAIM'. It is counter-productive to try and make Photoshop users feel like idiots. Like I said, I have been a photoshop user since PS3, so I think by now I have a pretty good idea of how to work the programme. This issue is not due yo my stupidity.

                            • 11. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                              D Fosse Adobe Community Professional & MVP

                              Well, this isn't happening to anyone else (certainly not me).

                               

                              Of course, the definition of a bug is that it doesn't happen all the time. If it did, it would have been fixed right away.

                               

                              So I suggest you keep an eye on this, and if you see it again, open the history panel and take a screenshot of that. That would be a useful screenshot.

                              • 12. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                                c.pfaffenbichler Level 8

                                 

                                 

                                save my psd before I'm ready to flatten, then flatten and go 'save as' and select jpg. The psd stays in tact as a layered file

                                So what did you mean by

                                 

                                I 'saved as" a jpg (so it had a different extension) and it still went and flattened my file.

                                exactly?

                                Why do you flatten the image at all? Saving »As a Copy« should take care of all offending features.

                                 

                                What would the point be of a screenshot? It is just going to show you one layer while the file extension is .psd.

                                You made a claim that I cannot immediately reproduce so step-by-step screenshots with a description what you did exactly might shed some light on what’s going on.

                                For example if you flattened the file and the Layers Panels indicates as much the asterisk beside the color mode beside the psd-name might indicate that the file has not been saved, in which case if you included other pertinent Panels, like Channels, one might conclude why the jpg has not been »saved as«, but »saved as a copy« despite your flattening.

                                • 13. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                                  c.pfaffenbichler Level 8
                                  Just a hint, C Pfaffenbichler: please refrain from using words like 'illustrate your CLAIM'. It is counter-productive to try and make Photoshop users feel like idiots. Like I said, I have been a photoshop user since PS3

                                  And a hint for you: It likely does not matter (edit: to the discussion at hand that is) how long you or I have been using Photoshop – in my experience anybody can make mistakes or misunderstand certain things.

                                  • 14. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                                    alisong83764930 Level 1

                                    1. I flatten the images to place in Illustrator or Indesign.

                                     

                                    You know what, nevermind. I am am going to reinstall photoshop and see if this issue disappears. This thread is wearing me out.

                                    • 15. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                                      c.pfaffenbichler Level 8

                                      If for example a layered file has additional Channels it cannot be »saved as« a jpg but is »saved as a copy«, same as with Layers.

                                      If you are not willing to provide pertinent information (positing screenshots being one option for doing so, but you could also post a link to a file and a detailed description of the steps to reproduce the issue etc.) then pinpointing the cause of the problem may not be possible for others.

                                       

                                      Edit:

                                      1. I flatten the images to place in Illustrator or Indesign.

                                      Saving a jpg »As a Copy« without flattening beforehand should result in a jpg just as well without affecting the open layered psd, psb or tif.

                                      • 16. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                                        c.pfaffenbichler Level 8

                                        Another possible reason for a flat image not saving as jpg, but saving as a copy could be bit depth, so you could check if the offending images were 16bit or 32bit.

                                        • 17. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                                          c.pfaffenbichler Level 8

                                          What would the point be of a screenshot? It is just going to show you one layer while the file extension is .psd.

                                          Let me give an example of how a meaningful screenshot can be helpful:

                                          usefulScreenshot_1.jpg

                                           

                                          The areas marked in red in the second version indicate that the image

                                          • is being saved »As a Copy« (see the dialog-window)

                                          • because it is 16bit and has an additional Channel (see the Info Panel, Channels Panel, …).

                                          usefulScreenshot_2.jpg

                                           

                                          Edit: Whether the problem in your case/s was something like that one cannot tell so far but so far.

                                          • 18. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                                            c.pfaffenbichler Level 8

                                            If the open and active file has Layers or other features that conflict with what the jpg-format allows (16bit, additional Channels, …) then selecting »jpg« as the Format in the Save-dialog automatically triggers »As a Copy« (at least for several versions now) and that creates a new jpg-file without any effect on the open layered file.

                                            So if one had (needlessly) flattened an open layered psd, psb or tif file that is also 16bit or has non-composite Channels before saving the jpg copy the open file is flattened but it is not the jpg!

                                            • 19. Re: Photoshop merged my layers for me, can I recover
                                              brynin

                                              Yea there's no reason for the save settings to magical change unless the user themselves change the settings. Adobe deserves some blame for this. This issue recently happened to me a few times, it's the first in like 10 yrs or so. I saved my work/project as a pdf. file and than saved the project with the layers not merged as a psb.,  but later when i opened the project the layers where merged and now i have to redo the work. There's no reason for settings to magically change. If the user wants something done the user can change the settings.