10 Replies Latest reply: May 15, 2012 12:35 AM by JSS1138 RSS

    Limited media options

    mikeh_es Community Member

      From what I can gather, we're limited to DPX, Quicktime, and some RAW media formats. No AVCHD, MTS, MXF, etc. formatted files?  Doesn't that defeat the purpose of being able to use any media type in Premiere Pro?  That's a huge disappointment and one of the main reasons I don't want to use Resolve.  Is this something that's going to change, and hopefully soon?

        • 1. Re: Limited media options
          lasvideo Community Member

          Patience. This is the 1.0 version of software recently purchased. Lots of things bound to change as time goes on.

          • 2. Re: Limited media options
            Tayedrummer Community Member

            Like you, I'm eagerly awaiting the release but I'm pretty skeptical about Speedgrade at this point. It really looks like the redheaded stepchild that was adopted at age 11 by CS6.  Between the limited media formats and the lack of support for the Euphonix MC Colour panel it looks like it's really crippled for me.  I'm planning on running Resolve for colour grading.  Since Speedgrade will only support EDL and not any dynamic linking for a round-trip through Premiere it seems like a no-brainer to get Resolve or Resolve Lite that supports more than two colour surfaces and will have a lot of new features to support dailies and audio in its version 9.0 release.

            • 3. Re: Limited media options
              lasvideo Community Member

              Repeat...

               

              This is the 1.0 version of software recently purchased. Lots of things bound to change as time goes on.

               

              Use what you want until it meets your needs. But given all the other things done to Premiere Pro and AE this cycle, its pretty understandable that its still not integrated and refined.

              • 4. Re: Limited media options
                Patrick J. Palmer Adobe Employee

                Hi Mikeh,

                 

                SpeedGrade also supports CIN, TGA, TIFF, OpenEXR, JPG, PNG and pretty much every RAW format out there (including some formats that you'll hardly find supported anywhere like Phantom and Weisscam - all in real time over 1 GPU).

                 

                Aside from the issue that the list is not the same as with Premiere Pro (and I won't argue with you at all - it is desireable to make both products use the same formats A-Z), SpeedGrade has  broad format support compared to any grading system out there.

                As the past of the application was rather "ultra high end" = film centric, something like P2 or AVCHD wasn't a focus in development (and it would have been hard for a smaller company like IRIDAS  to implement all that). Now that SpeedGrade is part of the Adobe family, the game has changed for sure.

                 

                That aside, I would rather look at creative options and general workflow options as well as total cost of ownership: SpeedGrade is layer-based, it's got tons of fantastic new features in CS6 like the opacity slider (that would even allow for blending a LUT into the composition), and it is strictly single CPU, single GPU. Easy to build, easy to use, easy to maintain.

                 

                Cheers,

                Pat

                • 5. Re: Limited media options
                  lasvideo Community Member

                  Personally, I wont use SpeedGrade until it supports the ability to dynamically link clips on the PrP timeline to SpeedGrade.

                   

                  Sending out an entire project sequence when revisions are ongoing is not an efficient way to color correct.

                  • 6. Re: Limited media options
                    shooternz Community Member

                    Personally, I wont use SpeedGrade until it supports the ability to dynamically link clips on the PrP timeline to SpeedGrade.

                     

                     

                    I bet you wont be able to help your self and will use it.  (Maybe a workflow change regarding "revisions which are ongoing".)

                     

                    I still work the old school way which means I leave FX, CC and grade till late in the edit process.  No way do I waste time and money outputting edit versions with "the full noise".   In fact I still call them "ruffcuts".

                     

                    I expect it will be some considerable time before it is Dynamically linked to PPRO or AEFX.

                     

                    Also...DPX is a very robust format as used in Da Vinci Resolve. 

                     

                    I am a big fan of intermediate workflows and find them more efficient to manage at project level.

                    • 7. Re: Limited media options
                      lasvideo Community Member

                      shooternz - I bet you wont be able to help your self and will use it

                       

                       

                      Good thing you dont live in Vegas...this is a bet you would lose. 

                      I feel confident that with Wes Plate from Auto Duck on board that this will be implemented in the future. Until then my projects will be best served by continued use of Colorista 2.

                      • 8. Re: Limited media options
                        shooternz Community Member

                        I will be watching you.

                         

                         

                        • 9. Re: Limited media options
                          Tayedrummer Community Member

                          The limited control surface options stopped me cold.  Tangent wave is an terrible surface to work on.  The Euphonix MC Color is compact enough that I can take it on set, comfortable enough to spend hours working on and speeds up my work exponentially.  Button layout is efficient and this surface is supported by most grading platforms out there. 

                          • 10. Re: Limited media options
                            JSS1138 Community Member
                            Sending out an entire project sequence when revisions are ongoing is not an efficient way to color correct.

                             

                            True dat!