6 Replies Latest reply: May 2, 2012 8:36 AM by robwuijster RSS

    Subtitles, still not possible? Workflow suggestions please.

    robwuijster

      Hi all,

       

      I have a client who wants to have (burned in) subtitles under an excisting piece of video.

       

      I was thinking "He... No problem in PPro", but to my surprise this isn't really possible. I've been searching the web, and besides the same question going back to !!2006!! there's no real solution.

       

      The only suggestions I found are about doing this in Encore. But the problem there is that Encore cannot export to .mp4 or Flash video. Or export the video and have the subs burned in for convenience sake.

       

      I could treat all subs as titles in PPro, but this would take a lot longer. I cannot understand this basic functionality isn't available for PPro.

      We don't all have Encore installed just for the sake of adding subtitles to a video.

       

      If anyone has a good workflow for stuff like this, I really like to hear it. Preferably without resorting to installing all kinds of exotic apps and weird file shuffles.

       

      Thanks!!

       

      Rob

        • 1. Re: Subtitles, still not possible? Workflow suggestions please.
          Harm Millaard Community Member

          I have a client who wants to have (burned in) subtitles under an excisting piece of video.

           

          I was thinking "He... No problem in PPro", but to my surprise this isn't really possible.

           

          Why not? What is your problem? Just create your subtitles and put them where you want them. I don't see any problem, unless it is OE.

           

          I could treat all subs as titles in PPro, but this would take a lot longer.

           

          That makes no sense at all. You still have to type the text and position them at the right location.

          • 2. Re: Subtitles, still not possible? Workflow suggestions please.
            robwuijster Community Member

            Hi,

             

            Not sure what you mean with OE.

             

            What I was looking for in PPro, is the option to import a sub textfile with timecode.

            This is not possible in PPro, unless I'm not looking into the right place in the app and manual.

             

            Like I said, I found references to Encore for subs, but I don't own Encore, and find it a bit overkill for something basic as adding some subs in a video track.

             

            So the only thing left is to create a title for every single line of sub.

             

            I hope that makes it more clear.

             

            rob

            • 3. Re: Subtitles, still not possible? Workflow suggestions please.
              Harm Millaard Community Member

              OE is Operator Error.

               

              What I was looking for in PPro, is the option to import a sub textfile with timecode.

              This is not possible in PPro, unless I'm not looking into the right place in the app and manual.

               

              That is not possible.

               

              Like I said, I found references to Encore for subs, but I don't own Encore, and find it a bit overkill for something basic as adding some subs in a video track.

               

              Encore comes with PR.

               

              So the only thing left is to create a title for every single line of sub.

               

              Correct.

              • 4. Re: Subtitles, still not possible? Workflow suggestions please.
                robwuijster Community Member

                OE =  PEBKAC I guess.......

                 

                I'll ask the admin to install Encore as well, as it might be handy to have installed next to PPro. Didin't know it comes bundled with it. Never had the need for it...

                 

                In the meantime I found an interesting script for AE called "pt_ImportSubTitles", that will import a Encore subs .txt file with all the timecode intact. From there you can go back to into PPro and import the AE comp as overlay on the videotrack.

                 

                Still a bit cumbersome, but workable for now and a lot faster than adding it one by one in PPro. Also the subs are still editable in AE, so it's a bit more fluid while working with it.

                 

                It would be very handy to have something similar in a future version of PPro, as subs don't always have to be on a DVD only.

                 

                rob

                • 5. Re: Subtitles, still not possible? Workflow suggestions please.
                  sookoll Community Member

                  I have been using Belle Nuit Subtitler (http://www.belle-nuit.com/subtitler/). It can render out all subtitles as stills (with alpha) and also provides an EDL for premiere so it works pretty well.

                  It works if you already have a script with timecode, as doing them without it is still pretty cumbersome in belle nuit, at least in pc version. I also dont like doing subtitles with encore, as there is a bit of a delay when displaying them, so a solution to import-export scripted subtitles from/to premiere would be really great.

                  • 6. Re: Subtitles, still not possible? Workflow suggestions please.
                    robwuijster Community Member

                    Hi,

                     

                    I found Subtitle Workshop, it's free and does the job pretty well. In combination with the AE script, it does the trick.

                     

                    I don't know if the Adobe people follow the threads in the forums, but stuff like this should have been added in Premiere by now.

                     

                    rob