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    Drawing with the Pen tools

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        • 1. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
          syates13

          drawing with pen tool on photograph; close path when finished; does not print. how to print????

          • 2. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
            Curt Y Community Member

            Do you want to make a selection of the path?

             

            Open Path tab in Window and then choose icon on bottom of window that state "make selection from path"

            • 3. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
              syates13 Community Member

              Thanks Curt Y for your response, the message indicated I did not "send" the question.

               

              I attempted to make a selection after closing the path, but nothing printed; only drawing on photograph existed on the MacBook screen in the digital photographic image only. (this in the pen tool, which looks like it "draws" on blank sheets, which I have done, but not "into" photographic images)

               

              I have also gone to the line tool: drawn, made thickness of line as well as color decisions in upper bar; then "option/entered" the keys to set drawing into the photographic image. While the line tool is more limited, it did print the lines I embedded in the photography.

               

              So the line tool works. The pen tool does not, which I prefer to draw with (and using its various geometric, linear and curve line components).

               

              In fact I would also like to use the polygonal tool in its linear mode as well: to create drawings with it, and place (embed) them into the photographic imagery.

               

              Perhaps there are other keys to "set" drawings into the photographic imagery, for the pen and polygonal tools? Or not possible? Thanks again.

               

              -say

               

               

              Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 14:23:35 -0600

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              To: syates13@hotmail.com

              Subject: Drawing with the Pen tools

               

               

               

               

               

               

                    

                         

                         

                         

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              Do you want to make a selection of the path? Open Path tab in Window and then choose icon on bottom of window that state "make selection from path"

               

               

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              • 4. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                Curt Y Community Member

                Perhaps you are talking about stroking the line? 

                 

                Set the color and size with brush, then in Path window click on Stroke Path with Brush.

                • 5. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                  syates13 Community Member

                  creating multiple lines, curves and variations with many geometric qualities best found in the pen tool is what would be preferred. unfortunately the pen tool is not pixel based. so the brush, pencil and mixer brush tools (found under brush tool) provide free hand alternatives but not geometric linear alternatives found under the pen tool. this is the unfortunate shortfall of the pen tool: cannot use it within or over photographic imagery. but wonder if there is a way to create a blank page layer for drawing with the pen tool, then to combine overlaying the photo?

                   

                  Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 21:00:54 -0600

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                  Subject: Drawing with the Pen tools

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                        

                             

                             

                             

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                  Perhaps you are talking about stroking the line?   Set the color and size with brush, then in Path window click on Stroke Path with Brush.

                   

                   

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                  • 6. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                    syates13 Community Member

                    Curt, believe I found the answer:

                     

                     

                    Create a new blank page, the size of the photograph to be worked on. The blank page is what the pen tool responds to only.

                     

                    Add the photographic image to the new blank page (same size).

                     

                    Now you can use the pen tool over the photographic image. When finished drawing, flatten the image with drawing, and print. 

                     

                     

                    Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 21:00:54 -0600

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                    To: syates13@hotmail.com

                    Subject: Drawing with the Pen tools

                     

                     

                     

                     

                     

                     

                          

                               

                               

                               

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                        created by Curt Y in Photoshop General Discussion - View the full discussion

                     

                     

                     

                    Perhaps you are talking about stroking the line?   Set the color and size with brush, then in Path window click on Stroke Path with Brush.

                     

                     

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                    • 7. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                      syates13 Community Member

                      Correction: same issue -- pen tool drawing shows up only on the digital image on the screen. Not when printed. Well sounded like a good theory.

                       

                      Problem remains: how to get pen tool drawing, made on photographs, to print.

                       

                       

                      From: syates13@hotmail.com

                      To: jive-35000100-y0bm-2-2lw57@mail.forums.adobe.com

                      Subject: Drawing with the Pen tools o photographi

                      Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 20:08:05 +0000

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                      Curt, believe I found the answer:

                       

                       

                      Create a new blank page, the size of the photograph to be worked on. The blank page is what the pen tool responds to only.

                       

                      Add the photographic image to the new blank page (same size).

                       

                      Now you can use the pen tool over the photographic image. When finished drawing, flatten the image with drawing, and print. 

                       

                       

                      Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 21:00:54 -0600

                      From: forums@adobe.com

                      To: syates13@hotmail.com

                      Subject: Drawing with the Pen tools

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                            

                                 

                                 

                                 

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                          created by Curt Y in Photoshop General Discussion - View the full discussion

                       

                       

                       

                      Perhaps you are talking about stroking the line? 

                      Set the color and size with brush, then in Path window click on Stroke Path with Brush.

                       

                       

                       

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                      • 8. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                        Curt Y Community Member

                        Think the problem line is the properties of a vector.  Vector paths in Photoshop are invisible, what you are seeing is a pixel layer filled with a solid color and delimited by a vector path.  Beleive you need to rasterize it to get what you want.

                         

                        My knowledge base is limited here so you might want to google this concept.

                        • 9. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                          syates13 Community Member

                          Thanks, good idea. Will rasterize to see what it will do. Yes it is a vector.

                           

                          Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 18:43:35 -0600

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                          To: syates13@hotmail.com

                          Subject: Drawing with the Pen tools

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                

                                     

                                     

                                     

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                          Think the problem line is the properties of a vector.  Vector paths in Photoshop are invisible, what you are seeing is a pixel layer filled with a solid color and delimited by a vector path.  Beleive you need to rasterize it to get what you want.

                          My knowledge base is limited here so you might want to google this concept.

                           

                           

                           

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                          • 10. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                            Curt Y Community Member

                            syates13

                             

                            Should have mentioned this earilier, but delete your e-mail address from your replies.

                             

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                            • 11. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                              the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                              As Curt Y mentions, a Path (whether an Open Path, a Closed Path or a Shape - very similar to a Closed Path) is but a mathematical depiction of that Path. Until you Stroke, and/or Fill the Path, there is not yet anything to Print.

                               

                              Open your photographic Image. Create a New Layer. Create your Path with the Pen Tool. When compete, go to the Paths Palette, and choose Stroke Path, choosing the Tool (Brush, Pencil, etc.) of choice, and then you will see the results on that New Layer. The same for Fill Path.

                               

                              Now, when you Print, you WILL see the results.

                               

                              Good luck,

                               

                              Hunt

                              • 12. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                                Curt Y Community Member

                                Yea, that is what I told him in post #4 but you explained it in much more detail.

                                • 13. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                                  the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                                  Curt,

                                   

                                  That is what I was thinking too, but it did not seem to have been absorbed, as I had expected it to be.

                                   

                                  Hope that it is now clear.

                                   

                                  Hunt

                                  • 14. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                                    Trevor.Dennis CommunityMVP

                                    When this thread first went up, I was not getting the OP's problem, but it's obvious when Bill and Curt explain it so well.  Nice one.

                                    • 15. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                                      syates13 Community Member

                                      Thanks all, greatly appreciated. Understand the virtual ("mathematical depiction of that path") drawing versus final stroked or filled marked paths.

                                       

                                      After reviewing your details especially with Bill's added suggestions, i.e., making the new layer and add pen drawing in the layer after the photographic image was pulled up, things unfolded nicely.

                                       

                                      Working through APS idiosyncracies (choices found in Paths Palette in APS 5CS Extended need added under Windows menu) managed to begin the process of drawing additions with the Pen Tool, that are not possible with Line or Brush tools. What I attempted was basically the reverse: make the blank page than add the photographic image and try to draw on it with the Pen Tool. 

                                       

                                      One last detail: under the Line Tool one can vary the width of lines -- but only straight lines. Doesn't appear possible with the Pen Tool, with its curved lines unfortunately. The width of the lines in the Pen Tool seem to have a set default in width, unvariable?

                                       

                                      Many thanks again. These final photograhpic works are large scale prints with the Epson 9900 so the upfront proofings are critical.

                                       

                                      =say 

                                      • 16. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                                        Curt Y Community Member

                                        When you stroke the path the line width and character are set by the brush settings.

                                        • 17. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                                          syates13 Community Member

                                          Alright, so I will check existing brush settings for line width and character, which are in a sense presets. Great. Appreciate your expertise. Back to printing tomorrow with all this in mind, allowing even further potentials.

                                          • 18. Re:  Drawing with the Pen tools
                                            emil emil Community Member

                                            syates13 wrote:

                                             

                                            ... under the Line Tool one can vary the width of lines -- but only straight lines. Doesn't appear possible with the Pen Tool, with its curved lines unfortunately. The width of the lines in the Pen Tool seem to have a set default in width, unvariable?

                                            Think of the line tool as a thin rectangle drawn with the pen tool. And you can think the same about all shape objects that create shape layers. All vector element in Photoshop a the same thing - vector paths that can be used to create pixels.