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    New Look?

    the_wine_snob Community Member

      Hm-m, seems that we have a "new look" in the forums, as of Sunday, May 06, 2012 @ ~ 2:30PM PDT.

       

      Not sure that I like it, but time will tell. Most of us have just "rolled with the punches," and accepted all changes.

       

      Hunt

        • 1. Re: New Look?
          John T Smith MVP

          If the new look means less overhead... ie-faster forum... I am in favor

           

          As you say... roll with the punches

          • 2. Re: New Look?
            john cornicello (retired) Adobe Employee

            Getting rid of a lot of  excess code should help speed things up. These are the new skins that the forum announcements were referring to last week.

            • 3. Re: New Look?
              Phillip M Jones Community Member

              Don't need all this Gray I just posted a Problem showing this:

              Adobe Forums_ Something Wrong on my iPad with viewing post.png

              The titles should be smaller  so that even the word Browse is beside history.

               

              I think the folks designing the skins were PC only and didn't try them on Macs.

               

              Had they created them on Macs then they would work on both.

              • 4. Re: New Look?
                Jacob Bugge MVP

                Bill,

                 

                It seems that we are getting closer to the way the fair forums looked. You may follow one of the links here to see, if you have forgotten:

                 

                http://www.bugge.com/Family-and-friends/Illy/Archive/Chat/chat.html

                • 5. Re: New Look?
                  Phillip M Jones Community Member

                  It's Not a fix but I fixed the problem by use of an extension called NoSquint for SeaMonkey/FireFox. I set magnification of font  to 85%. and Maganification for Full Zoom level 120%

                   

                  I said it’s a Font issue and it is.

                  • 6. Re: New Look?
                    the_wine_snob Community Member

                    Yes, it HAS been a while, and I did manage to get used to the various iterations of Jive, so maybe this too will work out.

                     

                    Having spent some time with the "new look," I have a few comments:

                     

                    We no longer see the posting info of those posting - that had been rather useful, especially to "welcome" new posters. I guess that we can click on their avatar, and read up on them, but if one is responding to 100's of posts per day, that rather takes a lot of time.

                     

                    The "Go to last post," or similar syntax, seems to be gone. That was useful for multi-page threads.

                     

                    The color differentiation of New/Updated posts should have been red, and not another shade of blue with just bold.

                     

                    I do agree that the sea-of-gray is not to my liking, but that might just be me.

                     

                    I rather liked the alternating background, though that could mess up a Copy/Paste for block quotes. It was easier on my tired old eyes.

                     

                    Now I have to learn that the Reply has been moved about.

                     

                    I missed the "skins" thread, but did see it on the main page. Been in the UK so am just now catching up. Gotta' go read, as I suppose that I WAS warned...

                     

                    Hunt

                    • 7. Re: New Look?
                      the_wine_snob Community Member

                      OK, John C. has addressed a few of my "issues," in the "Skins" thread, so I will just be patient and try to learn the new "scheme."

                       

                      Hunt

                      • 8. Re: New Look?
                        Lee Jay Community Member

                        John Cornicello wrote:

                         

                        Getting rid of a lot of  excess code should help speed things up. These are the new skins that the forum announcements were referring to last week.

                         

                        Are "show most recent post" and tree view now considered "excess code"?

                        • 9. Re: New Look?
                          Lee Jay Community Member

                          Lee Jay wrote:

                           

                          John Cornicello wrote:

                           

                          Getting rid of a lot of  excess code should help speed things up. These are the new skins that the forum announcements were referring to last week.

                           

                          Are "show most recent post" and tree view now considered "excess code"?

                           

                          Ah...well it seems tree view is working in this thread.

                          • 10. Re: New Look?
                            john cornicello (retired) Adobe Employee

                            I"m referring to excess headers and CSS files and the like. Functionality is separate

                            • 11. Re: New Look?
                              john cornicello (retired) Adobe Employee

                              Were your preferences set to show threaded? That may have stuck through the redesign.

                              • 12. Re: New Look?
                                Noel Carboni Community Member

                                I'll hold judgment on the new look and feel for a time, but I do have a question:

                                 

                                Where's the ''reply to xxxxxxx'' gone?  It's no longer possible to see whose reply button a poster pressed.  That was actually useful.  Now we have to rely on people quoting others to know who they're addressing.

                                 

                                Is it me or has the font gotten a little smaller.  I've been working hard all day on a book, so maybe it's just that my eyes are tired.

                                 

                                And I see that the editor font and the post font are different still...  Just look at a lower case g to see the difference.

                                 

                                -Noel

                                • 13. Re: New Look?
                                  Lee Jay Community Member

                                  John Cornicello wrote:

                                   

                                  Were your preferences set to show threaded? That may have stuck through the redesign.

                                   

                                  Yes.  It seems to work on new threads, but old threaded threads show as flat.

                                  • 14. Re: New Look?
                                    J. Simon Community Member

                                    Hm-m, seems that we have a "new look"

                                     

                                    OK, so I'm not seeing things.  Not sure it's a good idea to stack the reply and other buttons vertically, though.  That just wastes screen space and makes scrolling forums longer.

                                     

                                    Forum 1.png

                                     

                                    I noticed SPDY is also being used.  That's a good thing.  But the layout still needs work.

                                    • 15. Re: New Look?
                                      Bob Ward Community Member

                                      I definitely do not like the new look, especially the gray background - the reduced contrast (black on gray) makes it just a little harder to read text.  Also, the separation between posts is not as obvious as it used to be.

                                      • 16. Re: New Look?
                                        J. Simon Community Member

                                        Agreed on all counts.

                                        • 17. Re: New Look?
                                          Noel Carboni Community Member

                                          Bob Ward wrote:

                                           

                                          especially the gray background

                                           

                                          Medium blue on light gray certainly leaves a little to be desired.

                                           

                                          -Noel

                                          • 18. Re: New Look?
                                            Noel Carboni Community Member

                                            Jim Simon wrote:

                                             

                                            Agreed on all counts.

                                            With whom?  We can no longer tell.

                                             

                                            -Noel

                                            • 19. Re: New Look?
                                              J. Simon Community Member

                                              Agreed on all counts.

                                              With whom?

                                               

                                              Bob.  The post right above.

                                              • 20. Re: New Look?
                                                Noel Carboni Community Member

                                                Jim Simon wrote:

                                                 

                                                 

                                                Bob.  The post right above.

                                                 

                                                My point is that that's not obvious, given the loss of the ''reply to xxxxx'' field that used to be displayed.

                                                 

                                                -Noel

                                                • 21. Re: New Look?
                                                  Powered by Design Community Member

                                                  I also argee that I dont like the new forum look.

                                                   

                                                  Its funny how on the right there is still Points for Correct and Helpfull answers but nowhere to see what people have.  Not that I even cared about it but thought it was funny.  Maybe im missing something.

                                                   

                                                  Like Bill said I to liked seeing posing info of people.

                                                   

                                                  This version needs work.

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  GLenn

                                                  • 22. Re: New Look?
                                                    J. Simon Community Member

                                                    This version needs work.

                                                     

                                                    Oh yeah!.

                                                     

                                                    Anybody else not like the buttons on the left now.  I mean, most of us are right handed.  Why force us to drag the mouse across the screen now.  They were fine where they were.  Moving them won't speed load times, so why were they moved?

                                                    • 23. Re: New Look?
                                                      ProDesignTools ACP/MVPs

                                                      This reminds me of Google Reader's recent oversimplification... er I mean redesign.   Most users didn't like it and still don't.  Why water down and remove useful features like "reply to"? 

                                                       

                                                      Adobe software users are a pretty sophisticated bunch and typically things go in the opposite direction - providing more power and functionality over time.

                                                       

                                                      There also seems to be more open/dead space around each post when viewed in Chrome... in Firefox things look better, though not sure why there is such a difference.  <== Need to clear browser cache of previous content and this is fixed.

                                                      • 24. Re: New Look?
                                                        mytaxsite.co.uk MVP

                                                         

                                                        This reminds me of Google Reader's recent oversimplification... er I mean redesign.   Most users didn't like it and still don't.  Why water down and remove useful features like "reply to"? 

                                                         

                                                         

                                                        "Go to Original post" is also missing.  How about: "Reply to Original post"?

                                                         

                                                        To avoid replting to some obnoxious people I prefer to "Reply to original post" but this has been removed.  Also in a long thread, there is no short cut method of going to the original post.  Can you imagine scrolling all the pages in this thread:

                                                         

                                                        http://forums.adobe.com/thread/877321?start=0&tstart=0

                                                        • 25. Re: New Look?
                                                          Curt Y Community Member

                                                          It appears they have done away with points and the red "meatballs".  Can not see them listed in user profile either.

                                                          • 26. Re: New Look?
                                                            mytaxsite.co.uk MVP

                                                             

                                                             

                                                            It appears they have done away with points and the red "meatballs".  Can not see them listed in user profile either.

                                                             

                                                             

                                                            Yes it is all gone and I think it is good thing because some people in DW forums thought that they have some god given rights to abuse some posters because they have clocked up some 50,000 points over the past 15 years!!!!.

                                                             

                                                            IMHO all users should be equal and nobody should be shunned or insulted unnecessarily.

                                                            • 27. Re: New Look?
                                                              Powered by Design Community Member

                                                              Adobe has a thread going with know issues of the new skins HERE

                                                               

                                                              Also it looks different in each browser.

                                                               

                                                              I use Chrome and buttons are missing and the color is mainly all white-ish

                                                               

                                                               

                                                              Glenn

                                                              • 28. Re: New Look?
                                                                john cornicello (retired) Adobe Employee

                                                                Interesting. Internally some folks called them "sausages." Guess that's similar to meatballs (just had dinner with my 92-yr-old Italian mom). These ARE coming back. There was a last minute issue with them. Should have that fixed soon.

                                                                • 29. Re: New Look?
                                                                  Chris Cox Adobe Employee

                                                                  Jim - the reply/mark stuff appears to be due to older cached CSS files. Relaunching the browser or clearing the cache and reloading the page seem to clean it up.

                                                                  • 30. Re: New Look?
                                                                    Chris Cox Adobe Employee

                                                                    Getting rid of the point meters -- I will call that one a good thing.

                                                                    • 31. Re: New Look?
                                                                      the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                                      Looks like things might be changing, as I type.

                                                                       

                                                                      Now, it appears that new, or updated threads, are not bothering to show at all. One must look at the date/time, and then calculate when they last viewed a product forum.

                                                                       

                                                                      Not a good thing!

                                                                       

                                                                      Sometimes, I wonder why I even bother to try and help in the Adobe product forums. Adobe, and Jive, seem to want to make it more difficult, with each change. What is the "end game?" Does Adobe want us to all just go away?

                                                                       

                                                                      Does Adobe want things to focus only on the Community Help, and for the forums to die?

                                                                       

                                                                      Sorry, but I am becoming much more frustrated with some of these changes.

                                                                       

                                                                      Good luck to all, but I think that I might just retire from here too.

                                                                       

                                                                      Bad move Adobe!

                                                                       

                                                                      Hunt

                                                                      • 32. Re: New Look?
                                                                        the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                                        Hm-m. I would imagine that those folk would "abuse" others, regardless of any "salami" showing. I do not believe that their contributions are the only reason for their poor behavior, but could be wrong.

                                                                         

                                                                        Having lived with the "new and improved" forums for a few hours, let me say that I am less than impressed, and at many levels.

                                                                         

                                                                        Hunt

                                                                        • 33. Re: New Look?
                                                                          the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                                          It seems that the threads that you are reading, are populated by some unsavory folk. Maybe I hang out in different product forums?

                                                                           

                                                                          Hunt

                                                                          • 34. Re: New Look?
                                                                            the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                                            Noel,

                                                                             

                                                                            Now, we have zero clue to whom one is replying. That is a great new "feature" of the "new and improved" forum. We can only guess, and that "guess" will probably be very wrong.

                                                                             

                                                                            Hey, let's all do a bit of Joycian free association, and see where that takes us. Sometimes, "stream of consciousness" is not really a bad thing.

                                                                             

                                                                            Hunt

                                                                            • 35. Re: New Look?
                                                                              the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                                              Bob Ward,

                                                                               

                                                                              [Mentioning who I am replying to, as the new and improved forum does not list that.]

                                                                               

                                                                              I agree completely.

                                                                               

                                                                              Maybe this IS a "work in progress," but I am not feeling the love, and the usefulness of the "new look," and you reference one perfect example.

                                                                               

                                                                              I sort of wish that I had not left the country (US), and had been able to comment on this change. So far, I find it an abomination, and a detrimental factor to my contributions. Maybe that is the goal of Adobe?

                                                                               

                                                                              Hunt

                                                                              • 36. Re: New Look?
                                                                                station_one Community Member

                                                                                @ Bill Hunt:

                                                                                 

                                                                                Bill, has your face always been this red in your profile picture, or is this another byproduct of the new forum look? 

                                                                                 

                                                                                Looks as if you loaded an Adobe RGB image and the forum software. stripped the embedded profile (if the file was in fact tagged).

                                                                                • 37. Re: New Look?
                                                                                  the_wine_snob Community Member

                                                                                  @ Station_One, as noone will know to whom I am replying, otherwise, I am not sure. That was shot in Hawai`i, and I HAD been drinking, so maybe it was the sun, the wine, or maybe the "new and improved" look of things?

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Hunt

                                                                                  • 38. Re: New Look?
                                                                                    J. Simon Community Member

                                                                                    Chris Cox wrote:

                                                                                     

                                                                                    Relaunching the browser or clearing the cache and reloading the page seem to clean it up.

                                                                                     

                                                                                    I got that.  But now they're all the way over on the left.  That's no good.  Most folks are right handed, and will move the pointer off to the right while reading a page.  So those buttons should go back in the lower right cornert, not the left.

                                                                                    • 39. Re: New Look?
                                                                                      Noel Carboni Community Member

                                                                                      station_one wrote:

                                                                                       


                                                                                      Bill, has your face always been this red in your profile picture

                                                                                      It's clearly a color-management issue, as the tiny icon isn't the same color as his full profile picture.  I've viewed Bill's full profile picture before, and it wasn't that red, so it's definitely a NEW color-management issue.

                                                                                       

                                                                                      -Noel

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