You should read about the appearance panel which will give you lot of freedom and expand ypur abilities to do things seem like impossible.
Here is a video o how to do this, keep in mind if you wish to add text or remove text the the black background will expand or contract accordingly, all you have to do is type as long as the type size and font are the same.
You can do it with different fonts as well but you will have to adjust the font size baseline shift etc o make them match but it can be done.
here's the video
So with a little adjustments you get this you get this…I use a square character from wingdings and made it a smaller size then the other characters then a baseline shift sufficient to line up with the triangle shape opening in the A and then kerne it serverly so it overlapped that triangle shape but you can just place a white filled path over it and group it with the text.
What what what . . .
Either I'm not following this very well (it is 1:15a here so cut me some slack heh) or all you need to do fill your paths with a pattern, right? In this case, just fill the implied rectangle "behind" the word "-NEGATIVE.", filled with white, with a hyphen lookin' pattern.
Why bother with Area Type?
-IF- you're wanting to fill the black areas in your design with little hyphens that never get cropped/covered up and that look like they follow the shapes they're seemingly filling, that's another matter. Unfortunatley, I have to suggest a blockier font than Futura so that the negative spaces within have a more naturally square area to populate. I think it'll work better, Plus, I think just kocking out the word "NEGATEIVE" from a rectangle sufficiently conveys the concept of negative space. . . . but this isn't the design crit subforum.
Thanks for the reply and the video, I learned a few little tricks in there from that. However, I edited my post to give an idea of the effect I was going for. I want the negative space to be formed by a bunch of minus -, +, /, * signs, not cropped or clipped.
The issue I am having right now, is the negative space is all separate paths, so the symbols going across do not line up, which does not look good.
What I am kind of going for. Any other insight or help is appreciated. Thanks!
Thank you for the reply as well. It's late here too (3:40, heh) so I will keep this a bit brief.
"-IF- you're wanting to fill the black areas in your design with little hyphens that never get cropped/covered up and that look like they follow the shapes they're seemingly filling, that's another matter."
That's exactly the effect I am going for.
Once I figure this out, we can talk about my design choices later!
That is what I am looking for, how did you achieve this?
Thanks everyone, Ron and Jetaimage in another thread gave me the insight I needed, using text wrap instead of typing on a path.