12 Replies Latest reply: Jun 20, 2012 10:18 AM by carl37 RSS

    Fuji-XPro1

    JohnLoomes

      I have just sent this email to Fuji and would ask Lightroom to liaise with Fuji to get this right ASAP.

       

      "I so want to buy an X-Pro1 but have been waiting for Lightroom to include the camera as that is my preferred software. I am therefore very disappointed by the reports of the results of converting raw images from the camera using Lightroom 4.1. Given the quality of the in camera processing of jpeg images will you PLEASE liaise with and co-operate with Lightroom as I won't be buying the camera until this is resolved (and I won't wait forever)!"

        • 1. Re: Fuji-XPro1
          Geoff the kiwi CommunityMVP

          John, this is a User to User forum where users try to help each other. Yes Adobe employees do drop in but if you have a complaint about functionality you are best o post it here along with example images.

          Or you can post examples here showing your results and how you obtained them and we can try and assist you to use Lightroom to get what you want.

          • 2. Re: Fuji-XPro1
            JohnLoomes Community Member

            Thanks. I will follow your advice and do that.

             

            John

            • 3. Re: Fuji-XPro1
              Jeff Schewe Community Member

              So, what reports where?

               

              I hope you aren't referring to the ISHOOTSHOWS.com blog...the author's conclusions are likely flawed and he did not provide a raw file for peer testing and offered zero information on how he processed the raws and at what settngs. The odds are they were at detail Detail settings compared to the in-camera JPEGs that likely had built-in sharpening. But we don't know because he didn't say...

              • 4. Re: Fuji-XPro1
                JohnLoomes Community Member

                The one you refer to was one of the reports that I had read.

                 

                Also,  http://blog.thomasfitzgeraldphotography.com/2012/05/fuji-x-pro-1-support-lightroom-quick/ 

                 

                Also,  http://chromasoft.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/lightroom-41-and-fuji-x-pro1-oh-dear.html

                 

                I e-mailed Sean Reid (Reid Reviews) as well, as I'm a subscriber, and he agreed that there did seem to be an issue with certain kinds of detail and very high frequencies and he was going to contact Adobe about it.

                • 5. Re: Fuji-XPro1
                  Jeff Schewe Community Member

                  Again, these two "articles" only show web JPEGs without supplying process settings nor a sample raw file. So we don't know wghat the truth is...

                  • 6. Re: Fuji-XPro1
                    sandy_mc Community Member

                    Jeff,

                     

                    Hi.

                     

                    The Chromasoft post is mine - it's part of a series on the X-Pro1's sensor. The raw is the lowest ISO test image from DPReview, and all settings in LR are at default.

                     

                    Happy to provide more info if it's useful, but I'm sure Eric, Thomas & co are aware of the issue.

                     

                    Regards,

                     

                    Sandy

                    • 7. Re: Fuji-XPro1
                      Jeff Schewe Community Member

                      sandy_mc wrote:

                       

                      The Chromasoft post is mine - it's part of a series on the X-Pro1's sensor. The raw is the lowest ISO test image from DPReview, and all settings in LR are at default.

                       

                      Sandy, so, can you adjust the Detail settings to come close to the camera JPEG? Default isn't really the final IQ to judge...

                      • 8. Re: Fuji-XPro1
                        sandy_mc Community Member

                        Jeff,

                         

                        Originally, I just looked at all the converters at default settings. But I just tried the detail setting in LR4.1 now, and, no, no joy - the chroma smearing remains whatever I do.

                         

                        Regards,

                         

                        Sandy

                        • 9. Re: Fuji-XPro1
                          Jeff Schewe Community Member

                          sandy_mc wrote:

                           

                          But I just tried the detail setting in LR4.1 now, and, no, no joy - the chroma smearing remains whatever I do.

                           

                          You're talking about the red smearing in the letters? Yeah, I see that too...it seems to be mainly a red smear as most other colors aren't. I'm sure Eric and Thomas will address this...

                          • 10. Re: Fuji-XPro1
                            sandy_mc Community Member

                            Jeff,

                             

                            Yes, the red smearing is the issue I identified. And agreed, I'm sure Eric and Thomas will be looking at it.

                             

                            Regards,

                             

                            Sandy

                            • 11. Re: Fuji-XPro1
                              fxgeek Community Member

                              "Again, these two "articles" only show web JPEGs without supplying process settings nor a sample raw file. So we don't know wghat the truth is..."

                               

                              I wrote one of those articles too and I can tell you that I would be happy to supply a RAW file, but give us some credit. Do you think that we're just out to make Lightroom look bad or we just don't know what we're doing? We aren't - everyone want's this to work. The smearing is there like it or not. It's not an issue with sharpness settings. All those of us who have written about it are experienced photogrpahers and photoshoppers. I've been using Photoshop since version 2.5, so how about giving us some benifit of the doubt and not just assuming we've somehow entered a buch of settings just to make it look bad. I've tried every combination of settings and spent hours trying to find a way to make this go away, but there is a fundamental problem with the de-mosiacing on the X-Pro1. If you don't want to believe us fine, but give people a bit of credit.

                               

                              I'd be happy to work with Adobe and supply Raw files to Adobe

                               

                              Message was edited by: fxgeek

                              • 12. Re: Fuji-XPro1
                                carl37

                                There have been several threads about the XP1 issue in the Fuji forum.  I don't know if chroma smearing is the source of the so called "watercolor" effect that makes landscape vegetation look plastic, but that is my major issue with LR4.1 for XP1 raw processing.  I provided a link to a raw file that demonstrates this issue in the following thread, post #5.

                                http://www.fujix-forum.com/index.php?/topic/4920-x-pro1-and-lightroom-41psacr-optimal-imag e-quality/

                                 

                                You don't need to do any processing to see the problem.  Just open the file in LR4.1 and look at the vegetation in the background at 100 or 200%. The same file does not exhibit this problem when opened in RPP(1559beta).