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1. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 4, 2012 11:33 AM (in response to MatthewsM7)Adobe Forums: Planning / building a new system. Part 1
Have no answer yet on the memory. For the rest the article linked to above should get you on the way.
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2. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
MatthewsM7 Jun 4, 2012 12:49 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks Harm, I've defnitely already been using that as a resource
Do you have any other off the cuff reactions to my proposed build?
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3. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
RjL190365 Jun 4, 2012 12:57 PM (in response to MatthewsM7)I'm not Harm, but keep in mind that if you're ever going to do projects with more than three or four layers of HD video or any number of layers of 4K video, the 1.25GB of RAM on that particular GTX 570 will limit you: If a particular scene runs out of VRAM on the card, the entire rendering process for that particular scene will fall back completely to software-only MPE, and Premiere will not even let you know that it will default to such a setting.
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4. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
MatthewsM7 Jun 4, 2012 12:59 PM (in response to RjL190365)Good to know, I may switch to the 2 gb
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5. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 4, 2012 1:42 PM (in response to MatthewsM7)I would even suggest the GTX 670 with 4 GB. It requires less power, has double the memory, is around 10-15% faster and has up to 4 monitor connections.
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6. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
David OS Jun 4, 2012 2:26 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)I seem to remember reading on one of the threads on here that the Samsung Green MV-3V4G3D/US 4GB sticks which are found here were compatable. Could someone please clarify this. I've just bought 32GB of these to run along side an i7-3930K and will begin to build the system in the next week or so.....
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7. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
ECBowen Jun 4, 2012 2:31 PM (in response to David OS)Yes those Samsung are compatible. If you enable the XMP profile then you will likely have to change the voltage to 1.4 if fully populated.
Eric
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8. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
MatthewsM7 Jun 4, 2012 2:35 PM (in response to ECBowen)So, if I swapped out the G. Skills memory and purchased 32 gig of this low voltage Samsung, you think I'd have a pretty stable/speedy system?
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9. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
ECBowen Jun 4, 2012 2:44 PM (in response to MatthewsM7)The Samsungs are definitely compatible and just may require a few tweaks. The G-Skill compatibility is completely dependant on the modules used in that batch and the systemboard compatibility updates and whether the QVL has changed because of module changes. The Samsung definitely will mean a stable system if set right. The G-Skills I can't say for sure because of the question marks.
Eric
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10. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
MatthewsM7 Jun 4, 2012 3:00 PM (in response to ECBowen)Thanks Eric.
Any other advice on my current build? Think I'll be safe with a 750W PSU? CPU fan?
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11. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
ECBowen Jun 4, 2012 3:15 PM (in response to MatthewsM7)You will need a CPU fan. Harm has many good recommendation in his article about those. The 750W will be enough for your current config. However what will be the overall disk configuration in the future. That is what you want to plan on. I would take the video card recommendation. The 4GB cards are limited inventory currently and the 2GB are cheaper. Your overall budget will decide that.
Eric
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12. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
MatthewsM7 Jun 5, 2012 12:48 PM (in response to ECBowen)Eric,
Thanks again. I am trying to stay around ~$2000 and the current configuration is right at that. I currently have 3 HDDS. 1 ssd and 2 x 1 TBs.
In regards to my hard drive configuration, do you think the three hard drives will serve me well?
Or is there a better option going with one more HDD and attempting some sort of RAID?
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13. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 5, 2012 1:18 PM (in response to MatthewsM7)Every extra disk will help, but raiding them does not always help when you are on a limited budget. Parity raids are 'not done' on a mobo. They are much too slow. Striping means you also have to have a backup disk, to alleviate the risk of complete data loss. That means two extra disks, one to create the raid0 volume and a second one as backup disk. Well, you need backup disks anyway, but if you are only thinking of adding a fourth disk, I would suggest to keep them as simple volumes and just distribute the load more amongst them.
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14. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
MatthewsM7 Jun 6, 2012 10:57 AM (in response to ECBowen)So here it is:
I am going for most bang for my buck here, and am trying to stick around $2000. This is what I've come up with and am planning on ordering soon and am at ~$2100:
MB: ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS I plan on occupying all RAM slots for 32 gig.
FAN: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 140mm and 120mm SSO CPU cooler
RAM: SAMSUNG 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model MV-3V4G3D/US
(need 32 gig) Still unsure about this Samsung, but am going for it!
SSD [x1]: Plextor M3 Series PX-128M3 2.5" 128GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Card Reader: Rosewill RCR-IC002 74-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB port / Extra silver face plate
I have a large antec case and dvd drives I will be using from a previous build. Any other thoughts?
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15. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 6, 2012 12:49 PM (in response to MatthewsM7)Instead of the 570 consider the GTX 670. You will need more memory and more disks in the future, when budget allows.
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16. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Dave Cowl Jun 7, 2012 1:50 PM (in response to MatthewsM7)This system is very close to what I am looking to build.
I am still curious what the deal is with the memory needing to be Samsung low voltage - not that I am opposed to Samsung especially, just curious as to why it is important.
I saw someone else was talking about Mushkin low voltage RAM also...
I like the look of the Plextor SSDs - I was going to go Crucial but the Plextor is very tempting.
You might want to consider a USB3 Card Reader?
Cheers! Dave.
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17. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Kinhoikhun Jun 10, 2012 10:43 PM (in response to MatthewsM7)I have just built a system that is very similar to yours. I am still getting it set up and ready for overclocking. It was a bear to instal windows properly and get the RAID driver to work.
Regarding the Samsung memory, I installed all 8 DIMMS with 4gb memory each for a total of 32gb. The system set stock performance of the RAM has been 11-11-11-27 at 1600. Not all that great. After the CPU overclock I hope to improve upon the timings but I think with all 8 slots full I will not be able to push the RAM past 1600. Installation of windows with the RAM was a real pain. Because the Noctua tower is so large, and there is little space under the CPU cooler to instal RAM after the coller installation, I populated all the memory slots with RAM prior to windows instal. This was a mistake. I had to remove all the RAM but 1 stick and was only able to instal Windows with 1 4gb stick of the Samsung RAM in place. After loading all the drivers, some other programs and Windows updates I then repoplutated all 8 slots with the RAM. That seems to have worked. The good news about the Samsung RAM is that it has no heat spreaders and is not very tall so with difficulty you can instal the RAM latter on without having to remove the Noctua cooler.
I set up 2 WD VolociRaptors 500gb each in a 2 drive RAID 0 using the the Intel software RAID. i ran AIDA64 disk drive benchmark for Random Read and I achieved 240 MB/s using the SATA 3.0 controller. I was hoping for better but am not surprised as others have reported similar results. I may try the Marvell SATA 6.0 controller to see if I can improve the performance. At the end of the day I probably will need to get a separate RAID card.
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18. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
fsrdh Jun 11, 2012 5:01 AM (in response to Kinhoikhun)Greetings everyone.
I'm new to this forum and am currently building a new computer for Premere Pro. I have been using an I5 setup with a Radeon that would encounter serious lags during production/montage. I don't want to start a new topic as my question is very similar to this one (same motherboard) Could you please have a look at this setup and tell me what should I look to improve (I know now from reading that 1GB on the GPU may not be sufficient) or what components should I avoid.
Sincerely Jacob
ASUS P9X79 PRO
INTEL Core i7-3770 3.4GHz LGA1155
PATRIOT VIPER XTREME DIVISION 4 DDR3 4x4GB 2133MHz CL11 ELK
Asus DCII OC 1GB GTX 560
OCZ Vertex 2 SATA 60GB
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19. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 11, 2012 5:07 AM (in response to fsrdh)Jacob,
Nothing much, except a different CPU and different memory or different mobo. Ivy Bridge does not fit on a X79 mobo. You also need a PSU, several 7200 RPM SATA disks, a good cooler and several fans, all in a good case.
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20. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
fsrdh Jun 11, 2012 5:35 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thanks for catching my CPU mistake Harm. I have been copy-pasting the configuration and got the wrong CPU in the list.
The one that I'm interested (financialy capable now of purchasing) is
Intel Core i7-3820 processor
I read mixed reviews and opinions about it on this forum... But I can's seem to find a good alternative. I'm an art student and most of my work is well... Art. I am trying to get the parts I need for around $1300. Could you please advise on the CPU and elaborate on my choice of RAM why do you recomend chaning the Patriots?
Jacob
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21. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 11, 2012 5:59 AM (in response to fsrdh)Jacob,
Instead of the i7-3820, which is a quad core, you may be better off with an i7-3930K hexa core, which is unlocked and thus easier to overclock and has 2 MB extra L3 cache. It is of course much more expensive and I do not know whether it fits in your budget.
Instead of the Patriot memory sticks (1.65V) you are better off with the Samsung LV 1600 (1.35V) modules, and with 4 x 4 GB you save almost $ 40 and you can in the future fully populate all memory slots. You can't do that with the Patriot sticks.
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22. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Tamas Jun 11, 2012 7:42 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Hi folks I have a similar question. I already have purchased most of the components for my new build, including the following:
Gigabyte GA-X79-UD5 2011, X79, EATX, 8x DDR3, PCI, 5x PCI-e, Crossfire, SLi, 4x SATA-300, 6x SATA-600, 0, 1, 5, 10, 1Gbps, 2x eSATA, FW, 7x USB 2.0, 2x USB 3.0, PS/2, 7.1,
Cooler Master HAF X
Intel Core i7 3930K Boxed Socket 2011 cpu 3,2GHz
Noctua NH-D14 Special Edition (LGA 2011) 140mm
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1000W 80-plus-gold
2x Intel 520 120GB 120GB SSD (OEM) SATA-600
Zotac GeForce GTX 580 AMP2 815MHz 3GB GDDR5The last component which I still haven't figured out is the RAM.
As I understand, the 3930k works (best) with 1,35v ram. My question is, will this 1,35v ram work on the Gigabyte mobo, which supports 1,5v memory? Or do I have to adjust something in the Bios in order to make the ram work properly? Or do I have a major problem here?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Any other suggestions on this build are welcome!
Message was edited by: Tamas Media
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23. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 11, 2012 7:48 AM (in response to Tamas)Samsung will work on Gigabyte mobo's. Add a couple of 7200 RPM SATA disks to the equation.
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24. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Tamas Jun 11, 2012 8:14 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)Thank you Harm!
I forgot to mention that I will add a 1TB 7200rpm and a 2TB 7200rpm harddisk from my previous build.
1st SSD is for OS.
2nd SSD is for global performance cache
1TB is for output
2TB is for media and project files.
I also will use an external hard drive for backups, as well as blu ray disks.
Any idea where I can find those Samsung sticks in the Netherlands? Tweakers is not listing them properly.
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25. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 11, 2012 8:56 AM (in response to Tamas)Haven't found them yet in the Netherlands, but in a worst case scenario, you order them from Newegg, have them shipped to someone in the US who then ships them out to you. Newegg does not do exports. You could ask Salland.eu, Azerty or MaxICT when they will have them. They do have other Samsung sticks.
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26. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
anat_usa Jun 11, 2012 9:58 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)there is something i dont understand about ram Voltage....... from what i read as i understood 1.35 is better then 1.65, if say true i did not know its something to think about at all.....
here is what i am goign to build:
INTEL X79TO SOCKET LGA2011 DDR3
INTEL CORE I7-3930K 3.2G 12M SOCKET LGA2011
INTEL 520 SATA3 SSD 120G 2.5 MLC 25NM 10 - C drive
16GB DDR3-1600 HYPERX KIT OF 4x4GB KINGSTON (about 140usd)
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 580, 3000MB DDR5
the rest i already have on my curent system and i ll use it.......(box, HDDs, 800W power)
as i understand my RAM uses V1.65, at least its own website states it in spec pdf - DDR3-1600 at a low latency timing of 9-9-9-27 at 1.65V (but also they write Power (Operating) 1.410 W* (per module))
so 1.65V is no good? they also say - It’s designed to deliver maximum performance when paired with Intel’s Sandy Bridge-E processors and X79 Express motherboards....
so do u think i better change it to 1.35v?
i wonder if some one can suggest a pci express card with many sata 3 connectors on it? not just 2, but maybe 6 or more? are there any like that at all?
about GPU - really hard to decided..... can go with 680 or 670 as well ..... but cant decide what is better...... and just decied to stop at GTX580 with 3GB hope its something good
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27. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 11, 2012 10:06 AM (in response to anat_usa)i wonder if some one can suggest a pci express card with many sata 3 connectors on it? not just 2, but maybe 6 or more? are there any like that at all?
You mean something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816151121
24 internal ports and 4 external ports and a hardware raid controller included.
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28. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Tamas Jun 11, 2012 11:23 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)I'm really thinking to just go for a 32gb set of these:
or these:
http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.aspx?imodule=CT2KIT51264BD160B
My patience is reaching its limits, so I probably won't be waiting for the Samsung sticks to be available in Holland.
Or would these be a very bad choice?
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29. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 11, 2012 11:47 AM (in response to Tamas)Gut feeling: Crucial...
Why? Lower voltage and the higher CAS latency, which may mean they do not use Micron chips.
Eric, can you please bow in here?
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30. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
anat_usa Jun 11, 2012 12:02 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)You mean something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816151121
no not that one! as its also a raid controller thats is extreamly expansive! i would prefer more simple one just with sata 3 ports.... something like that:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816129087
unfourtunatly the next one with more sata is 400$ right away..... would like to find it cheaper....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816117214
regards
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31. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
ECBowen Jun 11, 2012 12:11 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)Well based on the 1 timing listed under the Crucial, that is correct for the Low Voltage. I would definitely go with those over the Corsair from the 1 timing listed.
Eric
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32. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Tamas Jun 11, 2012 12:57 PM (in response to ECBowen)Correct me if I`m wrong, but I always thought that a lower latency is the better choice, in this case the corsair having 9 over the crucial having 11. But I `m probably wrong :-)
The second thing I don`t understand is the low voltage. They both run on 1,35v, so what is the difference?
Please explain, I am really confused at the moment.
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33. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 11, 2012 1:10 PM (in response to Tamas)Things have changed a bit on the X79 platform. First of all , LV (low voltage) has gotten to be much more important than CAS latency. You are right that lower CAS latency used to be the last performance gain to be eked out of memory modules, but when fully populated, these lower CAS latencies are also the source of problems. Micron chips tend to have lower CAS latencies than other brands, but when a X79 mobo is fully populated, they also tend to give more problems with stability, and that is why the impact of lower CAS latencies is no longer the main issue, it is more about stability and lower voltage and chips, other than Micron.
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34. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
anat_usa Jun 11, 2012 1:17 PM (in response to Harm Millaard)so we really need 1.35v on x79?
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35. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
ECBowen Jun 11, 2012 3:16 PM (in response to anat_usa)The only modules that we have tested that have been bullet proof at 1600 regardless of SB-E CPU module used have been the LV ram. We tried several manufacturers modules that ran fine at 1600 on I7 Gen 1 and would not run stable at 1600 on Gen 2. If you don't want to play Roulette because of your ram then I would highly recommend LV ram.
Eric
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36. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Dave Cowl Jun 11, 2012 3:24 PM (in response to Kinhoikhun)I am expecting to go through the RAM install process in the next week or two... sounds like it needs 'tweaks' (BIOS tweaks?) to get it to work correctly.
Any specific information on how to set up the Motherboard with the Samsung RAM would be great!
Loving this thread! Thanks in advance to the folks helping out here!
Cheers! Dave.
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37. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Colin Grigson Jun 11, 2012 5:33 PM (in response to ECBowen)Hi Eric - how does one guage stability properly? I'm presuming it's not just seeing if Windows crashes - but running a burn-in test of some sort?
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38. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
anat_usa Jun 12, 2012 7:21 AM (in response to Harm Millaard)is that what u r talking about? SamSung 4GB DDR3 Desktop SDRAM (1600MHz PC3-12800)
- DDR3 30nm
- PC3-12800 Design
- 30 Nano Class
- DDR3 SDRAM
- 1600MHz (PC3-12800) Write Speed
- Compatible with1333MHz (PC3-10600)
- CL11 (11-11-11-28) @1600MHz CAS Latency
- 1.65W Power Consumption
- 1.35V Voltage
So only 1.35V is important now for x79? these high CL numbers are not that important anymore?
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39. Re: RAM compatible with 3930K and ASUS P9X79 PRO + more
Harm Millaard Jun 12, 2012 7:23 AM (in response to anat_usa)Correct.





