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1. Re: Strategy for Sharing Media Between Mac and Windows Premiere Pro
jstrawn Jun 18, 2012 1:11 PM (in response to Keith Moreau)What was your actual question? Please distill.
It sounded like you were asking if your hardware was going to be sufficient to stream your media smoothly on mac and win?
I don't have all that hardware available so I can't test it and tell you. You'll have to try it out and tell us. But I can tell you this:
I use mirrored TB lacie rugged drives to share media and projects between my mac/win systems via fireire 800 connection and have had few streaming problems which seemed to be due to nto streaming from a build in HD. Even with 4k footage, I haven't noticed that much of a difference. But that's just me and by setup sounds a lot different from the ethernet fed serial attachment you were talking about.
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2. Re: Strategy for Sharing Media Between Mac and Windows Premiere Pro
Keith Moreau Jun 18, 2012 1:40 PM (in response to jstrawn)No, I know my drives and Mac have the power and speed stream the data, my eSata drives and PCI cards are fast enough, I was talking about a way to network and share this from my Mac to the PC, I'm assuming 10 gigabit ethernet or fiber channel or something like this would work. I really only need to network these 2 computers, a Mac and PC, preferable shares from the Mac, with the eSata still connected, to the PC. I assume this is done all the time in larger editing environments with more than 2 computers, but right now just 2 need to access the same set of drives.
I do something on a smaller scale now between my Mac Pro and my Macbook Pro, when I need to offload a render and still work on my Mac Pro, but I do this with Gigabit ethernet, which maxes out at about 70MB / second. I think I need more, maybe twice that, to get the performance I need, but I'm just guessing.
Are you saying you are able to share the same media via firewire, can you tell me the details of how you connect from your Mac to PC please? Thanks much!
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3. Re: Strategy for Sharing Media Between Mac and Windows Premiere Pro
jstrawn Jun 18, 2012 2:04 PM (in response to Keith Moreau)I just plug my external drive into whichever computer I need and import it from there (I have my drive formatted as FAT so it will be recognized on either OS). Usually I'll copy the media over to the new system so that it can live there and I don't have to tie up the external drive whenever I want to use it. But if you're using network drives, you won't have that issue.
Perhaps we are on different pages here... I don't see what the problem is. As long as you can access the network drive from either system and can play the media on either OS (you may need to install quicktime on win if you haven't already), then there should be no issues sharing projects and/or media between mac and win
Or are you just asking a networking question, which is not video-specifc and beyond my own area of expertise?
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4. Re: Strategy for Sharing Media Between Mac and Windows Premiere Pro
Keith Moreau Jun 18, 2012 2:19 PM (in response to jstrawn)It is basically a networking question. Thanks for your input though. I don't want to unplug a set of drives from my Mac and plug them into a PC if possible, I use my Mac for a lot of things, and want to continue to. Thanks again.
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5. Re: Strategy for Sharing Media Between Mac and Windows Premiere Pro
jstrawn Jun 18, 2012 2:26 PM (in response to Keith Moreau)I don't want to unplug a set of drives from my Mac and plug them into a PC if possible, I use my Mac for a lot of things, and want to continue to. Thanks again.
I don't blame you. That's probably the best way to go for your sort of workflow. If no one answers your networking quesiton soon, perhaps try the video lounge. Or a networking forum.
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6. Re: Strategy for Sharing Media Between Mac and Windows Premiere Pro
SimonHy Jun 18, 2012 3:26 PM (in response to Keith Moreau)I guess there's a lot of variables, but we edit over a network using SMB and Gigabit Ethernet, and work with pretty similar media (XDCAM HD 422, XDCAM EX, AVCHD, H264) and it works fine. We have two servers sharing to 3 to 4 edit suites. I think if you're just sharing between two machines it should be sufficient.
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7. Re: Strategy for Sharing Media Between Mac and Windows Premiere Pro
Keith Moreau Jul 2, 2012 6:07 PM (in response to SimonHy)thanks for the helpful reply Simon. I did set up my system and was able to get pretty usable performance just using gigabit ethernet and sharing SMB from my Mac to the PC. I also plan to implement an 'aggregate' gigabit ethernet setup, which is pretty inexpensive but basically doubles the network speed. However, here's a big problem, the linking between Mac and PC of the media files. Because they are network drives on the PC, Windows Premiere Pro cannot find the media files. Even if I point to a directory, the files are from various sources and some are AVCHD which have a lot of similar names, such as 00000.MTS, 00001.MTS, etc. If I work on the PC, then go to the Mac, the same problem occurs on the Mac and I have to relink again and PPro's linking intelligence is not that helpful. It's pretty much a manual process every time going back and forth.
Is there some utility on the PC/Windows land that can intelligently map letter drive to some type of Mac volume so Premiere Pro doesn't get confused? I anticipate sharing projects between the platforms for the foreseable future and I can't take this manual linking of hundreds of files. I hear there is something called MacDrive on the PC that allows you to read Mac formatted drives, does it also help with network mounted drives, or is there some other utility?
Thanks everybody for any advice.
-Keith


