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1. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
BobLevine Jun 25, 2012 1:01 PM (in response to marcbackwell)With dual orientation, when you turn the iPad, it will go to the corresponding page in the layout.
BTW, I’ve come to absolutely hate dual orientation publications and unless you have some overriding reason to do it this way, I’d be looking at other methods.
Bob
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2. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
nz_geographic Jun 25, 2012 2:02 PM (in response to BobLevine)Thanks Bob. As a matter of interest, why do you hate dual orientation publications? It would be good to know...
Marc
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3. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
Adi RavidJun 25, 2012 2:08 PM (in response to BobLevine)
There's one reason that rises above all... CUSTOMER DEMAND!
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4. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
BobLevine Jun 25, 2012 2:14 PM (in response to nz_geographic)When I read something I want to read it without having the layout jumping all over the place.
I don't recall the exact version of the iOS but when it was released, there was a huge outcry over the inability to lock the device orientation.
@Adi, perhaps your customers demand it but I think if you look around you'll see many single orientation publications out there. It's less labor intensive and far less expensive to produce and there's less room for errors. But if you can get your clients to pay for it, all the more power to you.
Bob
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5. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
nz_geographic Jun 25, 2012 2:15 PM (in response to Adi Ravid)Thanks Adi - is it possible for you to elaborate on that? Is it simply customers not buying titles that have dual orientation, or is there other evidence? It would be great to know.
Thanks,
Marc
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6. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
nz_geographic Jun 25, 2012 2:19 PM (in response to BobLevine)Thanks Bob. I guess it's up to the individual viewers preferences. Obviously there are plenty of successful dual orientation apps out there, but not too many that have a completely difference experience between the vertical and horizontal views. I think that Time magazine did it initially, but I'm not sure how they do it now...
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7. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
BobLevine Jun 25, 2012 2:22 PM (in response to nz_geographic)People are not buying gimicks, they want good qaulity content.
I can guarantee that a quality publication with one orientation will outsell a dual orientation publication with dreck content.
Bob
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8. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
nz_geographic Jun 25, 2012 2:56 PM (in response to BobLevine)OK, how about quality content AND dual orientation?
I hear you about it being less labour intensive though. Definitely something to bear in mind...
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9. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
BobLevine Jun 25, 2012 3:04 PM (in response to nz_geographic)They’re not only less labor intensive but a whole lot smaller on the file size as well.
Bob
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10. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
nz_geographic Jun 25, 2012 3:06 PM (in response to BobLevine)Good point.
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11. Re: Can DPS "remember" where a user had scrolled to, on a previous page?
Adi RavidJun 25, 2012 3:10 PM (in response to nz_geographic)
@nz_geographic,
By "customer demand" I'm referring to the publisher and not to the actual reader.
From some reason, all the publishers I'm working with tend to favor dual orientation.
@Bob,
Personally, I've seen magazines switch from dual to single orientation and found it to be a very wise decision.
On the design team manager side, I totally agree with you. Dual orientations is much more hassle. If it was to me, I'd suggest that they'll abandon the whole dual orientation idea, make the choice between portrait or landscape and stick with it for eternity, but if they're willing to pay for the extra work and time required to create the 2nd orientation (which they do), then they'll get it.
On the reader side, I sometimes find it easier to switch between orientations in different reading poses.
In a small experiment I run during one of my DPS classes, I asked 23 students to download a simple tutorial folio to thier tablet device and follow it to create the described overlay effect. They were not told that the folio had both orientations.
The result: 5 didn't even check for existing orientations and used the portrait. Out of the 18 that did, 11 used the portrait orientation, while 7 found the landscape suits them better.