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1. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jun 25, 2012 10:23 PM (in response to Sunil Kumar)Can you just do a couple of checks for me?
1) Before you publish a stream please delete the streams folder under livestream and the .stream file under livestream/events/_definst_/liveevent, restart your server and then try.
2) Are the f4f fragments being created? After you publish you need to check under livepkgr/streams/_definst_/livestream (if you're publishing to livestream).
3) Instead of localhost can you just try with the server ip?
4) Also what version of FMS and Flash Player are you using?
Thanks,
Apurva
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2. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jun 25, 2012 10:37 PM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hi Apurva,
Thanks a lot for your response.
4# I am using the FMS 4.5 and Flash Player version 11 and above.
Let me do it again as you suggested.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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4. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jun 26, 2012 1:17 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)Hi Sunil,
'livestream%i?adbe-live-event' is used for MBR streams, where when you publish 3 streams, FMLE publishes them as livestream1, livestream2 and livestream3. As you have only one stream selected, only livestream1 is being published. However, when you're playing back, you're playing back as livestream instead of livestream1.
Try publishing as 'livestream?adbe-live-event' and then playback using "http://localhost/hds-live/livepkgr/_definst_/liveevent/livestream.f4m".
Let me know if this solves the problem.
Thanks,
Apurva
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5. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jun 26, 2012 1:49 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hi Apurva,
Yes you are right. But it should show the .f4m and .m3u8 file inside the foler livestream1 folder.
I have tested it with single stream also "livestream?adbe-live-event=liveevent" and it is not showing any .f4m and .m3u8 files inside the livestream folder.
Please help.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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6. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jun 26, 2012 1:53 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)The .f4m and .m3u8 files are created on the disk. They are generated on the fly as and when requests come to the server. You can try requesting the .f4m/.m3u8 file in your browser (not player) and verify.
Thanks,
Apurva
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7. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jun 26, 2012 2:19 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hi Apurva,
I have checked all the methods but not able to see live video over http on
flash in web browser also. I don't know what is the miskatake I am doing.
I am sending you all the snapshot images and AS3 code also so that you can
check it thoroughly. If you are not able to download the attached files
then please download it from below location -
http://flashdivine.fav.cc/livestreaming/FMS%204.5%20issue%20with%20Http%20Live.rar
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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8. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jun 26, 2012 3:31 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)Hi Sunil,
Sorry typo in my previous message. .f4m and .m3u8 files are NOT written on the disk. They are generated on the fly.
Let me have a look at the code you have sent and I'll get back to you.
Thanks,
Apurva
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9. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jun 26, 2012 3:41 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hi Apurva,
No problem,
Please give me solution so that I can work further. I got stuck due to
this.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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10. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jun 26, 2012 4:57 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)Hi Sunil,
1) About playback - After following the steps I've mentioned above, can you publish and try to play the live stream in the Strobe Media Player. If playback is not happening can you check the Apache logs (under root_install/Apache2.2/logs) to see if any error is being logged.
2) About the client, Netstream class is traditionally used for rtmp playback. Netstream.play() cannot directly be used to play HTTP streams. I'll investigate and see how you can do this but, I would suggest you use the Spark VideoPlayer available in Adobe Flex (AS3 based). It is easy to use and gives you advanced functionalities. You can download Flex from here (http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex.html). You can find more information about the VideoPlayer here (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/flex/using/WSc78f87379113c38b-669905c51221a3b97af-8000.html)
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Apurva
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11. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jun 26, 2012 5:46 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hi Apurva,
I have checkd in Strobe Media player also and found it is showing "Buffering.." but not playing. As you told me to see error logs so please find the error logs below -
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:19 2012] [info] mod_unique_id: using ip addr 178.12.0.15
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:20 2012] [info] mod_jithttp - FMS installation path: "C:/Program Files/Adobe/Flash Media Server 4.5/"
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:20 2012] [info] mod_unique_id: using ip addr 178.12.0.15
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:21 2012] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest authentication ...
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:21 2012] [notice] Digest: done
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:21 2012] [notice] Apache/2.2.17 (Win32) DAV/2 configured -- resuming normal operations
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:21 2012] [notice] Server built: Oct 18 2010 01:58:12
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:21 2012] [notice] Parent: Created child process 3816
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:21 2012] [info] mod_jithttp - FMS installation path: "C:/Program Files/Adobe/Flash Media Server 4.5/"
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:21 2012] [info] mod_unique_id: using ip addr 178.12.0.15
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:22 2012] [info] mod_jithttp - FMS installation path: "C:/Program Files/Adobe/Flash Media Server 4.5/"
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:22 2012] [info] mod_unique_id: using ip addr 178.12.0.15
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:23 2012] [notice] Digest: generating secret for digest authentication ...
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:23 2012] [notice] Digest: done
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:23 2012] [notice] Child 3816: Child process is running
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:23 2012] [info] Parent: Duplicating socket 268 and sending it to child process 3816
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:23 2012] [notice] Child 3816: Acquired the start mutex.
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:23 2012] [notice] Child 3816: Starting 250 worker threads.
[Tue Jun 26 16:20:23 2012] [notice] Child 3816: Starting thread to listen on port 8134.
Please check the above logs.
Regarding using the "Spark VideoPlayer" I will use it but are you sure it will play my live streaming video *.f4m video? I know *.f4v is mp4 codec and it is working very well using the NetStream class in Flash AS3 and as you gave me the URL for Spark Video Player they have used *.f4v video as a sample.
Humble request you you to please find out the best solution and give me that. Because I am not satisfied with any one of your answer because most of the things I have already done it.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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12. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jun 26, 2012 6:30 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)Hi Sunil,
It's difficult to debug an issue when you don't have access to the machine and you can't see what's happening, so I request you to please have a little patience.
For playback just check the following steps and make sure if you have followed them :
1) Delete the streams folder and any .stream file in the livepkgr
2) Restart FMS
3) Make sure you have a crossdomain.xml under root_install/webroot
4) Publish a stream from FMLE as 'livestream?adbe-live-event=liveevent'
5) Use this player to playback the stream : http://osmf.org/dev/2.0gm/StrobeMediaPlayback.html?src=http://<your-ip>/hds-live/livepkgr/_definst_/liveevent/livestream.f4m
If there is no playback, here are some checks you can do :
1) Request for the http://<your-ip>/hds-live/livepkgr/_definst_/liveevent/livestream.f4m in your browser. You should receive an xml that looks something like this :
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
<manifest xmlns="http://ns.adobe.com/f4m/1.0">
<id>livepkgr/events/_definst_/liveevent</id>
<mimeType />
<streamType>live</streamType>
<duration>0</duration>
<bootstrapInfo profile="named" url="../../../streams/livepkgr/events/_definst_/liveevent/livestream.bootstrap" id="bootstrap7158" />
<media streamId="livestream" url="../../../streams/livepkgr/events/_definst_/liveevent/livestream" bootstrapInfoId="bootstrap7158">
<metadata>AgAKb25NZXRhRGF0YQgAAAAAAAhkdXJhdGlvbgBAJUUeuFHrhQAFd2lkdGgAQHQAAAAAAA=</m etadata>
</media>
</manifest>
2) Check the access log under Apache to see if the .f4m, .bootstrap and Frag files have been requested and delivered. If a particular entry has a status code of 200 then the file has been served by FMS. You can confirm the same on the client side using a software like fiddler.
Coming to the player issue, a playback of *f4v via the vod directive is a progressive download, whereas playback of an *f4m file via hds-vod is HTTP streaming.
I have personally used Spark VideoPlayer and hence suggested the same.
You need to add a component like :
<s:VideoPlayer width="100%" height="30%" chromeColor="#CCCCCC" color="#000000"
fontSize="12"
source="http://<your-ip>/hds-live/livepkgr/_definst_/liveevent/livestream.f4m"
symbolColor="#000000"/>
Let me know if any of these suggestions help.
Thanks,
Apurva
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13. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jun 26, 2012 9:40 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hi Apurva,
Thanks a lot for your help.
Let me do the steps as you mentioned and I will get back to you.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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14. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jun 26, 2012 11:05 PM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hi Apurva,
Thanka a lot for your kind co-operation. Finally I can play the .f4m video in "
http://osmf.org/dev/2.0gm/StrobeMediaPlayback.html?src=http://<your-ip>/hds-live/livepkgr/_definst_/liveevent/livestream.f4m"
But same time when I am trying the video in embeded video player in local page it is not working. But it is helpful for me as of now.
Second we have to test the same in HTML5 and iphone.
Can you please suggest me how can I do that? I am using the videojs.com open source HTML5 player. Please suggest me for HTML5, Android and iphone.
Many thanks for your help.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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15. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jun 26, 2012 11:29 PM (in response to Sunil Kumar)Hi Sunil,
Gald to hear that the playback is working
Coming to the VideoPlayer, can you tell me what is the problem you're facing?
If you have flex builder, then just open a new project and add this in the mxml file :
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<s:Application xmlns:fx="http://ns.adobe.com/mxml/2009"
xmlns:s="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/spark"
xmlns:mx="library://ns.adobe.com/flex/mx" minWidth="955" minHeight="600">
<fx:Declarations>
<!-- Place non-visual elements (e.g., services, value objects) here -->
</fx:Declarations>
<s:VideoPlayer source="http://server-ip/hds-live/liveevent/_definst_/liveevent/livestream.f4m"/>
</s:Application>
Just this much is enough to create a VideoPlayer and playback the stream. You can then add functionality as you require. Let me know if this helps.
On iPhone you need to use a HLS stream. For the same stream being published (as this is an unencrypted stream), make a request as so in your Safari browser on iPhone :
http://server-ip/hls-live/livepkgr/_definst_/liveevent/livestream.m3u8
For Android you can compile a simple player for AIR in flex builder and then check playback with that.
Thanks,
Apurva
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16. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jul 2, 2012 12:02 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hi Apurva,
Thanks a lot for your help. It is working now as expected in Strobe Media Player. Can you please tell me how can I play this video in HTML5 individual player?
Please suggest me and if would be better if you can give me any sample code.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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17. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jul 2, 2012 1:29 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)You can play HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) in HTML 5 by creating a HTML page witha video tag pointing to the m3u8. Something like this :
<video src="http://,your-ip>/hls-live/livepkgr/_definst_/livestream/livestream.m3u8" controls autoplay height="640" width="360">
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Apurva
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18. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jul 2, 2012 2:08 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)I have tried this but video not playing. Instead of play it gives me option
to download the video.
Please suggest.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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19. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jul 2, 2012 2:21 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)Can you give me the piece of code you're using?
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20. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jul 2, 2012 2:43 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Yes,
please dowload the complete set from - http://flashdivine.fav.cc/personal/video-js.rar
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<title>Video.js | HTML5 Video Player</title>
<!-- Chang URLs to wherever Video.js files will be hosted -->
<link href="video-js.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
<!-- video.js must be in the <head> for older IEs to work. -->
<script src="video.js"></script>
<!-- Unless using the CDN hosted version, update the URL to the Flash SWF -->
<script>
_V_.options.flash.swf = "video-js.swf";
</script>
</head>
<body>
<video id="example_video_1" class="video-js vjs-default-skin" controls preload="none" width="640" height="264"
poster="http://video-js.zencoder.com/oceans-clip.png"
data-setup="{}">
<source src="http://qthttp.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1010qwoeiuryfg/sl.m3u8" type='video/mp4' />
<!-- <source src="http://video-js.zencoder.com/oceans-clip.mp4" type='video/mp4' /> Working fine -->
<source src="http://video-js.zencoder.com/oceans-clip.mp4" type='video/mp4' />
<track kind="captions" src="captions.vtt" srclang="en" label="English" />
</video>
</body>
</html>
Best regards,
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21. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jul 2, 2012 3:01 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)I'm unable to download from thw link you've provided. But I tried a simple video playback on my end and it worked for me :
<head>
<link href="http://vjs.zencdn.net/c/video-js.css" rel="stylesheet">
<script src="http://vjs.zencdn.net/c/video.js"></script>
</head>
<body>
<video id="my_video_1" class="video-js vjs-default-skin" controls
preload="auto" width="640" height="264" poster="my_video_poster.png"
data-setup="{}">
<source src="http://qthttp.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1010qwoeiuryfg/sl.m3u8" type='video/mp4'>
</video>
</body>
Please try this and let me know if it works for you.
Thanks,
Apurva
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22. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jul 2, 2012 3:28 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Same code I am added in html page but it is not working at my end. Can you please check this link also if it is working at your end.
http://flashdivine.fav.cc/personal/video-js/index.html
Please suggest which browser you are using in pc?
Best regards,
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23. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jul 2, 2012 3:30 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)I checked on the Sfari browser on the iPad 2. Because this is HTTP Live Streaming (HLS), it'll only playback on an iOS machine (MAC desktop or an iOS device).
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24. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jul 2, 2012 3:33 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Ohh!
I was checking it in Windows safari browser. Can you give me any emulator for windows where I can check this?
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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25. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jul 2, 2012 3:41 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)I have not tried an emulator myself, but you can see if this helps : http://oreilly.com/windows/archive/PearPC.html
Thanks,
Apurva
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26. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jul 2, 2012 3:46 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Ok fine let me check it and will get back to you.
I have one more question regarding .f4m. Can you please tell me we can use http dynamic streaming over flash player or any other plateform also.
Request you to please tell me all devices name operating systerm if any and browser where I can use it directly.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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27. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jul 2, 2012 3:59 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)You can use HTTP Dynamic Streaming over Flash Player. You can download flash player from here : http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html. You can find the details of the platforms that is supported by Flash player here : http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/tech-specs.html
Flash Player on devices is not recommended. Instead use Adobe AIR and AIR based applications. Read about AIR here : http://www.overdigital.com/2012/01/09/the-ultimate-guide-to-understanding-advanced-video-d elivery-with-air-for-mobile/
Thanks,
Apurva
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28. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jul 2, 2012 4:08 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Thanks a lot for your help!
So it means single air application can work for all devices or we should use different different AIR project for different devices. It would be better if you can give me any reference for device detection when html page load. So that I can decice what is the current device details and accordingly I will decide the platform to play the video?
I am developing the application and will get back to you if I feel any issue.
Many thanks for your help and happy from your quick response.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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29. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jul 2, 2012 6:57 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)A single AIR application will work for all your Android devices. You can similarly create an iOS application for all iOS devices or use HTML5 like above.
In actionscript you can check for the system and runtime of the client usinf the capabilities class. See more information here : http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashPlatform/reference/actionscript/3/flash/system/Capabiliti es.html
Also you can find some basic tutorials to build Android and iOS apps using Flex builder, that might help, here : http://www.lynda.com/Flash-Builder-4-5-tutorials/Building-Android-and-iOS-Applications-wit h-Flex/80254-2.html
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Apurva
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30. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jul 24, 2012 12:56 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hi Apurva,
I just want to know about HTTP dynamic streaming. Can you please tell me how it is switching to higher stream on the base of bandwidth.
In Flash FMS he is checking the current bandwidth by requresting netconnection.call methods but don't know about .m3u8 for HTML5 player.
Request you to please tell me the how it works HTTP Dynamic streaming for HTML5 player and .m3u8 extention in iPhone and Mac.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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31. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Apurva Udaykumar Jul 24, 2012 2:05 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)Hi Sunil,
I'm not sure I understand your question completely, so could you please elaborate?
In HTTP Dynamic streaming the client player detects the bandwidth available at the client and requests the most appropriate stream for the given condition.
For Multi-bitrate we need either a set-level F4M (HDS) or M3U8 (HLS) file that contain the URLs to the stream-level manifest file and the bit rate information for each stream in a multi-bitrate set. The client switches between streams based on the bitrate information in this file. You can see how to create these files here :
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
Apurva
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32. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Jul 24, 2012 2:57 AM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Thanks a lot.
I got it now.
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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33. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Aug 11, 2012 11:46 PM (in response to Sunil Kumar)Hi Apurva,
I need one more help! Can you please tell me how can I play HTTP Live Streaming on Blackberry? Request you to please give me any player sample or sample code for palyer or help tutorial where i can get complete guide.
I have the option of Adobe AIR but i want to paly the video using HTML5 player in Blackberry. Please suggest.
If I am using the Adobe AIR then how can i put it on website from where user can download and install Adobe AIR video player for live streaming. Please help.
Humbly,
Sunil Kumar
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34. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
bluraymakulit2 Aug 28, 2012 1:41 PM (in response to Sunil Kumar)hello im having issues doing what you are
i have been using jw player on my website doing live video streaming using adobe fms 4.5 and fmle 3.2 can we please talk cause i wish to have support on iphone ipad and other devices as well since flash is slowly dying my skype is bluraymakulit i would love help on how to configure this please and thank you
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35. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Nitesh upadhyay May 13, 2013 11:59 PM (in response to Apurva Udaykumar)Hey can you please send me the code for Live video streaming from android device to adobe server...It will be a great help for me.
Thank you.
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36. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
pajuancho Aug 22, 2013 10:14 AM (in response to Nitesh upadhyay)I have 2 questions.
1.- Will .m3u8 file work inside of a HTML5 file
2.- What is the best way to stream to balckberry and Windows Phones?
Thanks,!
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37. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Aug 22, 2013 10:38 AM (in response to pajuancho)Hi,
Can you please tell me your requirements and viewers so that I can tell you
exact solution?
Best regards,
Sunil Kumar
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38. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
pajuancho Aug 22, 2013 11:04 AM (in response to Sunil Kumar)At this point i am tasked to create a solution to reach PCs (IE 6-10) , FF, Chrome, Safari
Mac Safari, iOS devices, android, windows phone and blackberry
So i was creating an html with flash embeded object with an html5 fallback.
I was planning to use m38u for ios and HDS for android
Flash for IE 6-8 and html5 ie 9-10
What is the best options for BBeries and Win Phones???
By the way does FMS has a html5 player like videojs.com has??
I am trying not to use html5 open source players....
What is your recommendation for a solution like that?
I am open to suggesstion and solutions...
Thanks!!
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39. Re: HTTP Live streaming test in Flash Player, HTML5 player, iphone, android and other smart phones.
Sunil Kumar Aug 22, 2013 12:04 PM (in response to pajuancho)May I know you location please?
It would be better if you can tell me your audience size. Means how many
user you are expecting to connect on BB and Android and other phones?





