12 Replies Latest reply: Jul 9, 2012 11:19 PM by John Waller RSS

    New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!

    Vaiaata Community Member

      For a decade Dreamweaver allowed me to successfully build and maintain a simple but effective website. It was intuitive and simple to use.

       

      That all stopped with the new version.

       

      I have tried but cannot even begin to understand CSS. It has made my life a misery. Every time I alter a font I am asked to input new descriptions I do not understand and strange, and unpredictable things happen to existing text in the same or other paragraphs. 

       

      My website is important to me as a composer. It has brought in the majority of my commissions on which I depend for my livelihood. However, because of my issues with the new version my website maintenance has ground to a halt.

       

      Perhaps the old version of Dreamweaver was less capable. But it was more intuitive.

       

      I am so busy at what I do best - composing music. I have not got weeks or months to spare to learn new techniques. I have tried so hard to understand CSS and make it work for me but I have made no progress at all.

       

      The only solution I can see is to release a simpler WYSIWYG version resembling the old Dreamweaver. Or modify Dreamweaver in such a way that it is possible for users to turn off CSS.

       

      Please do something! The new version of Dreamweaver is destroying my career.

       

      Sincerely, Chris

        • 1. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
          David_Powers ACP

          Vaiaata wrote:

           

          Please do something! The new version of Dreamweaver is destroying my career.

          Dreamweaver is a professional tool for building and maintaining websites. It needs to provide the tools that professionals need. That means CSS.

           

          Nobody wants to destroy your career. But you say that you're a composer. Do what you do best, and consider using a professional web designer to create your website for you.

          • 2. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
            John Waller MVP

            Have you tried Adobe Muse?

            http://www.adobe.com/au/products/muse.html

             

            or even something like Wordpress (open source freeware - not an Adobe product) which can be great for people who are primarily content creators such as yourself.

             

            It is free and and offers excellent themes.

            • 3. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
              David_Powers ACP

              John Waller wrote:

               

              It is free and and offers excellent themes.

              Muse is no longer free. Since 15 June, it has become a subscription service.

               

              It's included in the Creative Cloud, or available as a standalone subscription. In the USA, it's $14.99 a month on an annual contract, or $24.99 a month on a month-to-month basis.

               

              Prices differ in other countries.

              • 4. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
                John Waller MVP

                David_Powers wrote:

                Muse is no longer free.

                Thanks for the clarification, David.

                 

                My free comment was referring to Wordpress. Apologies for any confusion.

                • 5. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
                  David_Powers ACP

                  John Waller wrote:

                   

                  My free comment was referring to Wordpress. Apologies for any confusion.

                  If any apologies are necessary, they should come from me. My eyes obviously jumped from the reference to Muse (which used to be free), and missed the change of subject.

                   

                  I wonder how many people will find Muse worth $180 a year (more in other countries)?

                  • 6. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
                    mytaxsite.co.uk MVP

                    Obviously DW is the best but if you want something ligh weight then Corels Website Creator X6 is something you could try:

                     

                    <http://tinyurl.com/d2wdm2d>

                     

                    The resources/tutorials to get you started are at in the Resources tab.

                     

                    The trial version will alow you to use it free for 30 days.

                     

                    Another product to try is Microsoft's Expression Web4  but that too is as professional as Adobe DW CS6 except the price tag.

                     

                    Good luck.

                    • 7. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
                      Mark Southee Community Member

                      Another vote for Wordpress for someone who is in Chris's position. I've set up a few sites (it's not just for doing blogs anymore) for people with no web skillls and they are quite happily updating their content. DW is great for the pros.

                      • 8. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
                        Nancy O. MVP

                        Despite what some people think, WordPress is NOT plug & play and walk away. You need a good understanding of MySql databases, PHP, firewall & other security measures to nail it all down properly.

                         

                        After it's deployed on the server, someone knowledgeable needs to be on hand to ensure

                        files and MySql data are regularly backed-up to a safe location. WP itself must be upgraded with each new release for security reasons. Themes and Plugins must also be upgraded.  Sometimes this goes smoothly.  Oftentimes not.

                         

                        WP can be a good CMS solution for clients who don't know much about code.  But ultimately an experienced person needs to  maintain the backend if client can't.  I think David's advice was spot on here.  Hire an experienced professional to help you.

                         

                         

                        Nancy O.

                        Alt-Web Design & Publishing

                        Web | Graphics | Print | Media  Specialists 

                        http://alt-web.com/

                        • 9. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
                          Vaiaata Community Member

                          Thanks to all. I didn't know about Word Press but have now downloaded it and am doing my homework so that setting it up will  be as stressfree as possible.

                           

                          While I'm very much and amateur regarding website software I am pretty knowledgeable of music notation software to the extent that I can say that each new upgrade of the two major ones over the last 12 or so years has brought greater functionality AND increased ease of use. Dreamweaver seems to have chosen to sacrifice ease of use for greater functionality. The result is that whereas amateurs like myself could muddle our way through DW 4 to 8, taking pride in a simple but thoroughly workable end product the latest version is, as you point out, strictly for the professionals. I guess Adobe has done the maths and has found that narrowing its customer base like this still pays off. It's certainly lost me and, I would guess, hundreds of others.

                           

                          By the way I apologise for being a bit dramatic in my first post. I had just come off two fruitless hours trying to do what previously came so easy - updating my website.

                           

                          Chris

                          • 10. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
                            Zabeth69 Community Member

                            My suggestion, Chris, is to continue to concentrate on your composing. It is more important to you than knowing how to work on your website. Then hire an intern or a student at a local university who is studying CSS, HTML, and web design to help with your site.

                             

                            Or hire a professional web person who can help you to make your page content editable by you without your having to learn a second profession that you should not have to spend time learning!

                             

                            I understand your frustration...we have all been there...and there are definitely solutions to your pain, though they do not involve a simpler form of Dreamweaver...

                             

                            Beth

                            • 11. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
                              mytaxsite.co.uk MVP

                               

                              Or hire a professional web person who can help you to make your page content editable by you without your having to learn a second profession that you should not have to spend time learning!

                               

                               

                              Learning a new application package is fun and a young person should not give up easily and 2throw in a white towel" without having a good go at it.

                               

                              Also, Chris can continue using the old package if he doesn't want to learn Dreamweaver CS6.  He says he has used version 4 to version 8 and I don't see why he can't continue using it especially when he was happy with the way websites were created in those packages.  He clearly isn't interested to learn new technology.

                               

                              Nancy has already pointed out that WP is not easy for somebody who is just starting with setting up from scratch.  You will find that Chris won't make any progress if he embarks on using WP.

                               

                              However, we can only wish him good luck and he can always post questions and get assistance on Wordpress.org forums (or even wordpress.com if he goes for free hosting package).

                              • 12. Re: New, simpler version of Dreamweaver!
                                John Waller MVP
                                mytaxsite.co.uk wrote:
                                Nancy has already pointed out that WP is not easy for somebody who is just starting with setting up from scratch.  You will find that Chris won't make any progress if he embarks on using WP.

                                 

                                Progress can certainly be achieved with WP.

                                 

                                I find that great results can be experienced with WP depending on what results are required.

                                 

                                It's quick and easy to set up and theme (with any of the 1000s of good themes out there-free and paid for).

                                 

                                Degrees of difficulty kick in when customisation of WP itself or the WP theme being used are required.

                                 

                                Some customising can be achieved using plugins and WP "frameworks" - that's the normal route for most WP beginners.

                                 

                                Anything deeper requires an understanding of PHP and Wordpress page architecture.

                                 

                                However, plenty of novices, intermediate designers and those who focus mainly on content creation run well-designed and successful WP sites.