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    install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day

    DigitalDave_ Community Member

      Hi,

       

      I need to state first that I am usng w2000 SP5.  This is a clean install, with no mal-ware.  I understand that the OS is not supported.  But, my other computer has a defective motherboard and unable to replace it now.

       

      I am using the last version of Firefoc that was available for w2000, ( ver 11.0 )

      I have modified Firefox NOT to UPDATE plugins.  (Because new plugins dont;'t work in W2000.Firefox 11.0)

      I have installed the last verson of Flash that works in W2000 also. ( fp_10.1.102.64_and_9.0.289.0_archive )

       

      All works as normal.  No crashes. No issues.

       

      Except, that the install magiclally dissappears as a plugin from FireFox.

      It disappears 3 or 4 times a day. Usually after I open Firefox a few hours later.

      But, it is still in installed Programs list on computer.

       

      I have been re-installing it everytime, which is VERY annoying.

       

      I have disabled Flash from automatic updates also.

       

      There must be something that is checking to install a new version, and deleting my current install.

      But, I can't find it.

       

      I have tried many versions of flash, and all do the same thing.

      So, I believe the problem is in FireFox.

       

      I am posting my problem there also.

       

      Please help me.  TIA

        • 1. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
          chris.campbell Adobe Employee

          It sounds like you might be running into a Windows permission issue, please try the instructions in this FAQ:

           

          How do I fix Windows permission problems with Flash Player?

           

          Thanks,

          Chris

          • 2. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
            DigitalDave_ Community Member

            Multiple missing file errors running the batch file ...

             

            MSVCP60.dll not in program path

             

            I searched C: drive .... no such file

             

            Did the batch file run succesfully without this file?

             

            Is this file Ok to download for Windows 2000 pro SP5 ?

            • 3. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
              chris.campbell Adobe Employee

              Odd, the SubInACL application from Microsoft (which is what the batch file calls) says that Win2k should be supported.  When Flash Player disappears, check to see what files are present in your windows\system32\macromed\flash folder.  I'm curious if the files are actually uninstalled.  You might want to compare the contents of this folder when it's working and then again when it's not.

              • 4. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                pwillener ACP/MVPs

                DigitalDave_ wrote:

                 

                Is this file Ok to download for Windows 2000 pro SP5 ?

                Never download DLL files from the Internet; they may not match your installed OS, and just downloading them will not register them properly.

                 

                Download and install the Visual C++ redistributable to obtain the missing files: http://download.microsoft.com/download/vc60pro/Update/1/W9XNT4/EN-US/VC6RedistSetup_enu.ex e

                 

                SubInACL is fully supported on Windows 2000; the folder to check for Flash Player on W2K is C:\WINNT\system32\Macromed\Flash

                • 5. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                  DigitalDave_ Community Member

                  Your diagnosis seems to spot on target.

                   

                  Preliminary results are good.

                  Clicking "Ok" to the missing file ( about 40 or 50 times ) until the batch file completed seems to have worked Ok.

                   

                  I will post back in a few days. .... all is good so far.

                   

                  And, I will post this at Mozilla, if this problem is resloved

                  • 6. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                    DigitalDave_ Community Member

                    Edited _____________________

                     

                    It just happened again ....

                     

                    The contents of the C:\WINNT\system32\Macromed\Flash Folder - Ok.

                    Contents are still present.

                     

                    So, this means its a FireFox problem?

                     

                    At least it was 3 days later , and not 4 times a day ...

                    • 7. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                      pwillener ACP/MVPs

                      It is time to give us some more information: what makes you think that Flash Player disappears?  What are the exact symptoms?

                       

                      Can you still see the Flash animation at http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html - or what do you see instead?

                      • 8. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                        DigitalDave_ Community Member

                        "

                        Download and install the Visual C++ redistributable to obtain the missing files: http://download.microsoft.com/download/vc60pro/Update/1/W9XNT4/EN-US/V C6RedistSetup_enu.exe   

                         

                        "

                        This download does not install ... It unpacked a file called " vcredist.exe " size 1,765kb.

                        Clicking  file does nothing.

                         

                         

                        As for 'disappearing" .... It is not listed as a plugin in Firefox 11.0

                        This is the last version of Firefox that works with W2K.

                        And, since I had to re-install ( for Firefox )  I instaled the 10.1.102.64 version again.

                         

                        As I mentioned before, Flash is still listed in installed programs. And, this time I have confirmed the files install still exist in the system32 folder.

                         

                        You will have to wait until it is gone again..... before I can use your test page.

                        But I believe it will show it is not installed in Firefox.

                        • 10. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                          DigitalDave_ Community Member

                          It just "disappeared" again in the middle of browsing.

                          No warnings, no messages, just gone.


                          1  System32 still has files.


                          2  Tools: Add-ons: Plugins:   -- Missing.


                          3  Help : Troubleshooter - Enabled Plugins:  Not Listed.

                           

                           

                          Is there a way to "Hard Code" the "swf" extension to the System32 folder?

                          I'm waiting this time for someone to help BEFORE I GO INSANE.

                           

                          To: Pat Willener

                           

                          Noting shows in the test page, ( As expected )

                          • 11. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                            DigitalDave_ Community Member

                            THIS IS NOT A FIREFOX PROBLEM

                             

                            I installed Opera yesterday, thinking that it was Firefox that was rejecting the flash plugin.

                            Well, just a few minutes ago, the Opera flash plugin disappeared also.

                            So, I opened Firefox, and it was gone there too !.

                             

                            LETS SEE IF WE CAN FIX THIS !

                             

                            All the contents of the system32 folder still intact.

                            Flash still listed in Windows installed programs.

                             

                            Where do I get the MSVCP60.dll file required to run the windows permission fix properly?

                             

                            The ball is in YOUR court !

                            • 12. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                              DigitalDave_ Community Member

                              Apparently MS is unaware the download is non-functional or corrupted,

                               

                              http://support.microsoft.com/kb/259403

                               

                              Ok, so I see the files in the vcredist.exe file when I use WinZip

                              How do I install these properly?

                              Is it Ok just to unzip them to the system32 foder?

                               

                              HELP !!!!

                              • 13. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                I unzipped the contents of vcredist.exe to a temporary folder.

                                There I noticed 2 more EXEs

                                 

                                50comupd.exe = Checks version of "Common Controls"  - Mine was OK

                                PreSetup.exe  = Does not execute

                                 

                                I also noticed VCRedist.inf.

                                So, I installed from this file.

                                Did a search for MSVCP60.dll, and was properly placed in system32.

                                Rebooted

                                 

                                I executed the SubInACL batch file fix.

                                No errors.

                                Rebooted

                                 

                                Ok, so time will tell if this fixes my problem.

                                • 14. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                  DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                  My high hopes were just dashed ....

                                  ... Plugin gone again.

                                   

                                  This is so bad, I have a shortcut on my desktop to reinstall.

                                   

                                  Has no one have any diagnostic talent ?

                                  • 15. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                    pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                    DigitalDave_ wrote:

                                     

                                    I executed the SubInACL batch file fix.

                                    No errors.

                                    And you reinstalled Flash Player (hopefully using a clean install) after that?

                                    • 16. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                      DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                      The uninstaller does not execute on my system ...

                                       

                                      System error popup  ... screenshot here

                                       

                                      http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hTxsVQRdEp5jINARbzZVkNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=dire ctlink

                                       

                                      The procedure entry point SetDllDirectoryW could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll

                                       

                                      I have tried this uninstaller many times before ... never worked on my W2k computer.

                                       

                                      I did not do a re-install after running the fix.

                                      It clearly says "if you were not able to install ... do so now "

                                       

                                      I only re-booted.

                                       

                                      Please be specific in the steps, and I will execute them.

                                      • 17. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                        DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                        http://forums.adobe.com/thread/965334

                                         

                                        https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3120661

                                         

                                        As per your last comment on that topic ...

                                        Apparently, W2K users are not important anymore.

                                         

                                        Yes, W2000 is old, and MS does not support it.

                                        However, they still have all the Service Packs and fixes available on thier website.

                                         

                                        This computer I'm writing with to you now, is the MOST RELIABLE COMPUTER I EVER BUILT.

                                        ( I did a Dual Boot with W7, and the OS would not install with the hardware.)

                                         

                                        My W7 x64 computer has had 3 motherboard failures in 4 years.

                                        ( I stated in my OP that I am unable to replace it now )

                                         

                                        Your support staff should be able to dig up the old un-installer that works for W2K, and leave a link for those who still have working W2K computers.

                                        ( Or include the uninstaller in the ZIP file archives )

                                        • 18. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                          pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                          DigitalDave_ wrote:

                                           

                                          Your support staff should be able to dig up the old un-installer that works for W2K, and leave a link for those who still have working W2K computers.

                                          It is possible to find old uninstaller versions, but they won't work with new Flash Player versions.  Each released uninstaller only works with the current version at the time, and all previous ones, but not with future versions.

                                           

                                          This post http://forums.adobe.com/message/4427736#4427736 contains detailed instructions how to change that dll, so that the uninstaller/installer works on Windows 2000.

                                           

                                          W2K was a very stable OS, and I have until very recently used it on my laptopc computer.  Hadn't it broken down, I would probably still be using it.  But on the other hand, I would not be able to use more and more software, like the latest Firefox, Google Earth, Picasa, and whatnot.

                                           

                                          Developers want to move forward with new technologies, and keeping old technologies in the software will make them unnecessary large, and likely less performant.

                                           

                                          PCs have a limited lifespan, and the likelyhood that W2K is still used becomes less and less.  I am sure that XP will continue to be supported by many software vendors for quite some time to come, but even XP will some day fade out.

                                          • 19. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                            pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                            P.S. this topic contains a shorter summary of how to change the W2K DLL: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1012569

                                            • 20. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                              DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                              Ok, so I created a uninstaller HACK that is invokable.

                                              However I did not run it yet.

                                               

                                              I need you to be specific in the steps that you beleive will fix my problem.

                                              From what I interpret, you want me to :

                                               

                                              1. Run the uninstaller HACK.

                                              2. Re-boot

                                              3. Remove any files remaining that the uninstaller was suposed to remove.

                                              4. Re-boot

                                              5. Run the permisions fix batch file.

                                              6. Re-boot.

                                              7. Install Flash.

                                              8. Re-boot.

                                              • 21. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                                I think only one reboot (2.) is required in this sequence.

                                                • 22. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                  DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                  I cleaned up, ran the fix, and re-installed after it "disappeared" again tonight.

                                                   

                                                  ... wait and see now ...

                                                  • 23. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                    DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                    THIS DID NOT FIX MY PROBLEM !

                                                     

                                                    IT IS GONE AGAIN !

                                                    • 24. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                      DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                      Maybe this problem is with validation certificates and ActiveX controls.

                                                       

                                                      I also have this problem at MS.

                                                       

                                                      http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_other-windows_update/error-code-0 x800b0109-is-displayed-when-visiting/a75a5d8c-deb0-4b39-9982-42f0a72ad848?auth=1

                                                       

                                                      There is no way to uninstall IE6, However if you re-execute the installer there is a option to re-install.

                                                      I have just re-installed IE6, and all its runtime componects.

                                                       

                                                      But, I still have the error code in windows update.

                                                       

                                                      Maybe I can write over IE6 with IE 5.5 on my OS install disk.

                                                      • 25. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                        DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                        Was unable to "rollback" to 5.5

                                                        Howver, I did "rollback" the defective ActiveX.

                                                        • 26. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                          pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                                          DigitalDave_ wrote:

                                                           

                                                          But, I still have the error code in windows update.

                                                          You never mentioned that before.

                                                          • 27. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                            pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                                            DigitalDave_ wrote:

                                                             

                                                            Was unable to "rollback" to 5.5

                                                            I'd say that is good; IE5.5 was the worst version in the history of that browser.

                                                            • 28. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                              DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                              Pligin "disappeared" again.

                                                              • 29. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                                I tried a different order to the fix after posting here, and it did not work either.

                                                                 

                                                                1. Uninstaller hack.

                                                                2.delete directories

                                                                3. 2 different Registry cleaners.

                                                                4. Install

                                                                5. Run permisions fix.

                                                                 

                                                                "Disappeared" again a few minutes ago.

                                                                 

                                                                Is anyone reading or thinking of something to try?

                                                                 

                                                                I'm going to install the IE version with the non-IE version this time.

                                                                To see if it "disappears" from IE6 at the same time.

                                                                • 30. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                  DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                                  Permissions Fix Log _______________________

                                                                   

                                                                   

                                                                  rm. ACE 5 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ProgID : delete Pe

                                                                  rm. ACE 4 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ProgID : new ace f

                                                                  or builtin\users

                                                                  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}

                                                                  \ProgID : 3 change(s)

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Programmable : del

                                                                  ete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Programmable : del

                                                                  ete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Programmable : new

                                                                  ace for builtin\users

                                                                  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}

                                                                  \Programmable : 3 change(s)

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ToolboxBitmap32 :

                                                                  delete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ToolboxBitmap32 :

                                                                  delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ToolboxBitmap32 :

                                                                  new ace for builtin\users

                                                                  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}

                                                                  \ToolboxBitmap32 : 3 change(s)

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\TypeLib : delete P

                                                                  erm. ACE 5 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\TypeLib : delete P

                                                                  erm. ACE 4 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\TypeLib : new ace

                                                                  for builtin\users

                                                                  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}

                                                                  \TypeLib : 3 change(s)

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Version : delete P

                                                                  erm. ACE 5 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Version : delete P

                                                                  erm. ACE 4 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Version : new ace

                                                                  for builtin\users

                                                                  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}

                                                                  \Version : 3 change(s)

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\VersionIndependent

                                                                  ProgID : delete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\VersionIndependent

                                                                  ProgID : delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\users

                                                                  SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\VersionIndependent

                                                                  ProgID : new ace for builtin\users

                                                                  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}

                                                                  \VersionIndependentProgID : 3 change(s)

                                                                   

                                                                   

                                                                  Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00

                                                                  Done:       18, Modified       18, Failed        0, Syntax errors        0

                                                                  Last Done  : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-

                                                                  444553540000}\VersionIndependentProgID

                                                                  =========================

                                                                  Repairing Flash Player File System Permissions. One moment please...

                                                                  =========================

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for builtin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for builtin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : 4 change(s)

                                                                   

                                                                   

                                                                  Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00

                                                                  Done:        1, Modified        1, Failed        0, Syntax errors        0

                                                                  Last Done  : C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for builtin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for builtin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : 4 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\admin

                                                                  istrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : new ace for builtin\administrato

                                                                  rs

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : 2 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\a

                                                                  dministrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : new ace for builtin\administ

                                                                  rators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : 2 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\ad

                                                                  ministrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : new ace for builtin\administr

                                                                  ators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : 2 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : delete Perm. ACE 2 b

                                                                  uiltin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : new ace for builtin\

                                                                  administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : 2 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.exe : delete Perm. ACE 2 b

                                                                  uiltin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.exe : new ace for builtin\

                                                                  administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.exe : 2 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_Plugin.exe : delete Perm. ACE 2 bu

                                                                  iltin\administrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_Plugin.exe : new ace for builtin\a

                                                                  dministrators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_Plugin.exe : 2 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\admini

                                                                  strators

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll : new ace for builtin\administrator

                                                                  s

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll : 2 change(s)

                                                                   

                                                                   

                                                                  Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00

                                                                  Done:        8, Modified        8, Failed        0, Syntax errors        0

                                                                  Last Done  : C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 3 builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : 4 change(s)

                                                                   

                                                                   

                                                                  Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00

                                                                  Done:        1, Modified        1, Failed        0, Syntax errors        0

                                                                  Last Done  : C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 3 builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : 4 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : delete Perm. ACE 3 builtin\users

                                                                   

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : new ace for builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : 2 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : delete Perm. ACE 1 builtin\u

                                                                  sers

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : new ace for builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : 2 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : delete Perm. ACE 1 builtin\us

                                                                  ers

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : new ace for builtin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : 2 change(s)

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : delete Perm. ACE 1 b

                                                                  uiltin\users

                                                                  C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : new ace for builtin\

                                                                  users

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                                                                  • 31. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                    DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                                    Plugin 'dispappeared' from Firefox again, but NOT from IE6.

                                                                    And, It is the 2nd time it's gone after playing a game called Unreal.

                                                                     

                                                                    Im going to search the registry after I reinstall again.

                                                                    But, I dont see the point in doing the total uninstall routine anymore.

                                                                     

                                                                    When will someone help me with this?

                                                                     

                                                                    I will be looking at the FireFox plugin registry items after re-install.

                                                                    It would be helpfull if someone could tell me where, and what to look for.

                                                                     

                                                                    [ Edit ]

                                                                     

                                                                    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

                                                                     

                                                                    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MozillaPlugins\@adobe.com/FlashPlayer]

                                                                    "Path"="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\Macromed\\Flash\\NPSWF32.dll"

                                                                    "ProductName"="Adobe Flash Player 10.1 Plugin"

                                                                    "Vendor"="Adobe Systems Incorporated"

                                                                    "Description"="Adobe® Flash® Player 10.1 Plugin"

                                                                    "Version"="10.1.102.64"

                                                                    "XPTPath"="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\Macromed\\Flash\\flashplayer.xpt"

                                                                     

                                                                    Why doesn't Java appear here also?

                                                                     

                                                                    Strange

                                                                    • 32. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                      pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                                                      I am not sure if somebody will really be able to help you; I don't think anyone of the forum regulars has W2K any more.  As I wrote earlier, I had W2K until a few months ago, but that machine is hopelessly broken, and there is no way I can use it any more.

                                                                       

                                                                      Still, I am trying as best as I can...

                                                                       

                                                                      After the plugin disappears again: is that registry entry still there?

                                                                       

                                                                      As for Java, on my W7 machine I have this entry:

                                                                       

                                                                      Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
                                                                      
                                                                      [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MozillaPlugins\@java.com/JavaPlugin,version=10.5.0]
                                                                      "Description"="Oracle® Next Generation Java™ Plug-In"
                                                                      "GeckoVersion"="1.9"
                                                                      "Path"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre7\\bin\\plugin2\\npjp2.dll"
                                                                      "ProductName"="Oracle® Java™ Plug-In"
                                                                      "Vendor"="Oracle Corp."
                                                                      "Version"="1.7.0_05"
                                                                      
                                                                      • 33. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                        DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                                        THESE ARE CURRENT VALUES WITH FLASH PLUGIN WORKING_____________

                                                                         

                                                                        I did a search for "npjp2.dll" and found nothing.

                                                                         

                                                                        However a search for 'x-java-applet" and "x-shockwave-flash" have 2 entries each. both in the same places.

                                                                         

                                                                        [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-java-applet]

                                                                        "CLSID"="{CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0027-ABCDEFFEDCBA}"

                                                                        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-java-applet]

                                                                        "CLSID"="{CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0027-ABCDEFFEDCBA}"

                                                                         

                                                                        [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-shockwave-flash]

                                                                        "Extension"=".swf"

                                                                        "CLSID"="{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}"

                                                                        [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-shockwave-flash]

                                                                        "Extension"=".swf"

                                                                        "CLSID"="{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}"

                                                                        _____________________________________________________________

                                                                         

                                                                        I discontinued the Mozzilla forum discussion after flash disappeared for Opera also.

                                                                        ( that determined its a flash / W2K problem )

                                                                         

                                                                        I'm not going to wonder why Java is not in the mozilla plugins registry.

                                                                        Since, I have similar entries for the "x-" applet entries.

                                                                         

                                                                        Hopefully this is where I will see something happen, when it 'disappears" again.

                                                                        • 34. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                          pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                                                          Just on the sideline: what JRE version do you have installed?  Do you see the Java plugin in Firefox (about:plugins)?

                                                                          • 36. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                            DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                                            Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

                                                                             

                                                                            [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MozillaPlugins\@adobe.com/FlashPlayer]

                                                                            "Path"="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\Macromed\\Flash\\NPSWF32.dll"

                                                                            "ProductName"="Adobe Flash Player 10.1 Plugin"

                                                                            "Vendor"="Adobe Systems Incorporated"

                                                                            "Description"="Adobe® Flash® Player 10.1 Plugin"

                                                                            "Version"="10.1.102.64"

                                                                            "XPTPath"="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\Macromed\\Flash\\flashplayer.xpt"

                                                                            _______________________________________________________________

                                                                             

                                                                            THIS IS THE REGISTRY ITEM THAT IS MAKING THE PLUGIN "DISAPPEAR".

                                                                             

                                                                            THIS ENTRY IS BEING DELETED FROM MY REGISTRY.

                                                                             

                                                                            No re-install necessary, just re-apply this regisrty item.

                                                                             

                                                                            Now,    WHAT IS DELETING THIS ENTRY FROM MY REGISTRY?

                                                                            How do I track this down?

                                                                            Is it possible to "protect" this registry item from being deleted?

                                                                            • 37. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                              pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                                                              Good - you got one serious step closer to resolving this mystery!

                                                                               

                                                                              What I would do in your case was to run Process Monitor.  But I just saw that it says Win XP and higher.  Google for process monitor old version and you may be able to find a version that runs on W2K.

                                                                               

                                                                              Run it until that reg entry disappears again, and you should be able to search and find what process did it.  Note that if you need to run procmon for several hours, the output may be VERY large.  And since we don't know what process does it, we cannot apply any filters.

                                                                              • 38. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                                DigitalDave_ Community Member

                                                                                I got a response from Mozilla on this.... here is the link again.

                                                                                 

                                                                                https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/931884#answer-353337

                                                                                 

                                                                                They don't seem to know why the key is dissapearing.

                                                                                But, they are trying to tell me how to create a different way for firefox to find the files needed.

                                                                                 

                                                                                It was difficult finding the last version of ProcessMonitor for W2K.

                                                                                I found it here ... Process Monitor 2.01

                                                                                 

                                                                                http://www.afterdawn.com/software/general/download_splash.cfm/process_monitor?software_id= 1359&version_id=13466

                                                                                 

                                                                                I have never seen or used this tool before.  Looking forward to learning this one.

                                                                                • 39. Re: install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day
                                                                                  pwillener ACP/MVPs

                                                                                  ProcMon is a very useful tool, but it monitors EVERYTHING on your system, so if no filtering can be applied, the output will be extremely large.

                                                                                   

                                                                                  But I think it will be worthwhile to solve that mystery!  We simply cannot have disappearing registry keys...

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