16 Replies Latest reply: Jul 31, 2012 10:03 AM by Ann Bens RSS

    Best codec.

    snappygra

      My footage is an 720p AVI wrap and will be converted before editing.

       

      I was just wondering what is the best codec to convert to that is fairly stable for editing in Premier CS4.

       

      I currently convert to and use 720p H264 on Windows 7 64bit. 4GB ram ( I was told that CS4 by a Premier guru on an Adobe stand that CS4 cannot see more than 4GB anyway).

        • 1. Re: Best codec.
          the_wine_snob Community Member

          Welcome to the forum.

           

          What is the current CODEC in that AVI "wrapper?" This ARTICLE goes into more detail on file formats as "wrappers," and CODEC's in general.

           

          It might well be one, that PrPro CS4 can edit natively. If not, then I would convert to a lossless CODEC, such as Lagarith Lossless, or UT. This ARTICLE goes into more detail.

           

          The H.264 CODEC is a good one for delivery, but if you plan to edit, I would suggest NOT using any heavily-compressed CODEC.

           

          As for the use of RAM by a program, with a 64-bit OS, you will want a minimum of 6 - 8GB, just for the OS. I recommend 12 - 16GB, as a good "minimum," with 24 - 32GB being better. Remember, the OS needs RAM, PrPro needs RAM, and then any program/process that you have open (might also load at bootup) will need RAM. System RAM is NOT just about what a program can use.

           

          Good luck,

           

          Hunt

          • 2. Re: Best codec.
            snappygra Community Member

            Thanks Bill

             

            here is the media info, PrPro CS4 will not play it or edit it properly.

             

            Media info.jpg

             

            Im afraid my PC is a couple of years old and although it can upgrade I cannot find the compatible RAM anywhere.

             

            I just wanted to know if there was a more edit friendly HD preset (or how to set up one) in PrPro CS4 that I could use. I convert my footage using MPEG Streamclip.

             

            What preset would you use or set up in PrPro CS4 for the lossless codecs in this http://forums.adobe.com/thread/875797?tstart=0 article as I am afraid of messing up my PC yet again. Also which of these lossless Codecs do you find to be the best.

            • 3. Re: Best codec.
              Ann Bens CommunityMVP

              No need to convert you can edit this footage after you installed the mjpeg codec.

              http://www.mainconcept.com/products/sdks/video/motion-jpeg.html

              • 4. Re: Best codec.
                the_wine_snob Community Member

                I agree with Ann. Once you have the MJPEG CODEC installed (and reboot), the footage should edit fine.

                 

                Now, all MJPEG CODEC's are not created equal. Camera mfgrs. tweak the MJPEG CODEC, to suit their purposes.

                 

                While many have luck with the generica MainConcept, or the Lead versions, all have not.

                 

                I feel that it is best to "go to the source," where possible. That means installing the exact version of the MJPEG CODEC, that came with the camera, that shot the footage. This ARTICLE goes into more detail.

                 

                Good luck,

                 

                Hunt

                • 5. Re: Best codec.
                  snappygra Community Member

                  The footage is from my Nikon D90, it plays perectly well on my VLC player and my Nikon view editor but not on Premier.

                   

                  As it plays on other things, does this not mean that the correct codec is already installed on my OS.

                   

                  If I need to install it specifically on PrPro CS4 how do I do this please.

                  • 6. Re: Best codec.
                    Ann Bens CommunityMVP

                    If it plays on the computer it does not mean Premiere can play the file either.

                    Download and install, does it all for your.

                    Mainconcept works perfectly with Nikon avi's.

                    • 7. Re: Best codec.
                      the_wine_snob Community Member

                      VLC Player is not a good test, as it comes with its own CODEC's, and those are but for playback, and not for editing. PrPro is an editor.

                       

                      Now, did you install the Nikon software on the same computer, that you are using PrPro on?

                       

                      Installation of the Nikon software should have also installed Nikon's version of the MJPEG CODEC. Unfortunately, nearly every camera mfgr. writes their own version, and those mentioned above, MainConcept and Lead, might, or might not work. CODEC's, except those contained in players, or programs, like VLC Player (a great player, BTW), are all installed at the system level, and should then be accessible by PrPro, provided that it can use them. With MJPEG, there should be zero problem in PrPro.

                       

                      To verify that your MJPEG CODEC has been installed properly, use G-Spot, and go toTables in G-Spot's Toolbar, to see the Video CODEC's that are installed. Do not be alarmed if it shows the Adobe MainConcept CODEC's as "broken." That is a false positive, due to the way that Adobe hides its CODEC's.

                       

                      Now, when you have Imported your Nikon footage into a Project, and drag that to a Sequence, do you have a red line above the Clip(s)? If so, then your Sequence Preset does not match the Nikon's Source Footage.

                       

                      Two last questions: you have not installed any CODEC "packs," like K-Lite, or similar, have you? You have not installed FFDShow have you?

                       

                      Good luck,

                       

                      Hunt

                      • 8. Re: Best codec.
                        snappygra Community Member

                        How do I download it from the page you highlighted please, I cannot find a download button.

                         

                        http://www.mainconcept.com/products/sdks/video/motion-jpeg.html

                        • 10. Re: Best codec.
                          snappygra Community Member

                          I bought the codec and video plays in the preview window, but how do I make an editing preset for this codec in PrPro CS4 so that I am editing original footage please.

                          • 11. Re: Best codec.
                            Ann Bens CommunityMVP

                            You can use a standard hdv sequence preset for this footage.

                            • 12. Re: Best codec.
                              snappygra Community Member

                              Don`t really understand, HDV is nothing like 720p????????????????

                              • 13. Re: Best codec.
                                Ann Bens CommunityMVP

                                CS4 does not have ready made dslr presets.

                                HDV is just as good (I use them for Cineform avi's) or set up a custom one.

                                Under the tab General (screendump says Settings) / Editing Mode choose Desktop.

                                hdv 720p24.png

                                • 14. Re: Best codec.
                                  snappygra Community Member

                                  How do you make a custom preset please?

                                  • 15. Re: Best codec.
                                    the_wine_snob Community Member

                                    IIRC, in CS4 it's under the "Custom" tab in Presets, and is the "Desktop" Preset, that allows most attributes to be adjusted to match the Source Footage.

                                     

                                    Good luck,

                                     

                                    Hunt

                                    • 16. Re: Best codec.
                                      Ann Bens CommunityMVP

                                      snappygra wrote:

                                       

                                      How do you make a custom preset please?

                                      Post 13 i explained how to make a custom preset.

                                       

                                      Under the tab General (screendump says Settings) / Editing Mode choose Desktop.