12 Replies Latest reply: Jul 28, 2012 2:23 AM by stephen0218 RSS

    indesign with imposition plugin

    Lucas Martin Community Member

      I'd like to have imposition software for printing at home but cannot justify the expense. I have found a $40 plugin for indesign that I like the look of..

       

      The only issue is it is time consuming to create an indesign document that is the same size as the "placed" PDF then import the pdf, the run the imposition plugin.

       

      The kind of documents I am creating are DL flyers, vouchers, gift certificates etc. In fact its rare that I create a document that doesn't require imposition.

       

      So my question is:

       

      Is there a way to import a pdf into a default ID document then have it resize the document to the borders of the pdf?

       

      Thanks..

        • 1. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
          Peter Spier ACP/MVPs

          Lucas Martin wrote:

           

          Is there a way to import a pdf into a default ID document then have it resize the document to the borders of the pdf?

          No, at least not automatically.

           

          But I think you are approaching this incorrectly. You don't necessarily need a plugin for ID. First, there is Print Booklet, already built in, that is the basic imposition mudule supplied withthe program. If you use a Mac with Snow Leopard or later you have to print to Postscript file and distill, though, as Apple killed the PDF virtual printer. (see InDesignSecrets » Blog Archive » Acrobat’s Adobe PDF Printer Replaced in Snow Leopard and read the commnets).

           

          Tere are also some basic imposition scripts for ID that are free or donationware. My favorites are by Dave Saunders and work well for two-up saddle-stitch with no creep: http://pdsassoc.com/downloads/Buildbooklet.zip and Dave's CS3 Booklet Script. The first makes a new file and shuffles the pages, but does not work with cross-spine objects. The second creates a new docment with spread-size pages and places the orignal pages into that, so it does handle cross-spine, but it is slower.

          • 2. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
            Eugene Tyson MVP

            You can Place and InDesign file inside another.

             

            All I do is create a new document with the page size that I will be imposing on.

             

            I draw a grid with the rules, and then place the document. And step and repeat it where necessary.

             

            You'd have a few templates for the different things you do in no time.

            • 3. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
              Peter Spier ACP/MVPs

              'Morning, Eugene. Nice to see you back.

               

              I think you and I have different interpretations of "imposition" here. I'd call what you are doing an N-up layout (and I do the same as you -- step and repeat most of the time, when that's the goal) which I suppose is a type of imposition, but I don't see a connection to resizing a document to fit the placed PDF.

               

              I think we need some clarification from Lucas.

              • 4. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
                Eugene Tyson MVP

                Morning? It's 14:24

                 

                Timezones huh!

                 

                Good afternoon, Peter. Thanks for the welcome back. Nice to see you're still around.

                • 5. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
                  Lucas Martin Community Member

                  All of your posts have been super helpful. Thank you.

                   

                  I have quite a few new concepts and process I now need to research.

                   

                  I think I just need to bite the bullet and enrol in a graphic design degree...

                  • 6. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
                    Lucas Martin Community Member

                    In regards to the clarification...

                     

                    My need to resize an indesign document to fit a placed pdf is made redundant by the concepts mention in your posts. I am now fiddling with Print Booket and reading up on N-up, step and repeat etc.

                     

                    It would be really nice to have this all completely automated though.. crop marks and all.....

                     

                     

                    I downloaded Imposition Wizard demo and it was absolutely fantastic. I just cant justify the expense...

                     

                    Thanks.

                    • 7. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
                      Eugene Tyson MVP

                      I actually don't know what you are actually working on - it's kinda hard to make a recommendation on imposition techniques without knowing the job at hand.

                      • 8. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
                        Lucas Martin Community Member

                        Really simple stuff: free juice vouchers, gift certificates, business cards, flyers etc All basic marketing stuff for my retail business.


                        I cant afford to sit in front of the computer for extended periods of time laying out documents when I should be running the shop. I basically want to design the item I need then have the software to give me the option of how many I want on the page (with a preview so I can see how various sizes look) then have all the crop marks etc overlayed automatically.

                         

                        For example I recently decided to distribute "Free Juice or Smoothie" vouchers to surrounding businesses. I had whipped up a quick voucher in Pages 09 that allowed 6 copies per A4 Sheet. I then had about a week of frustration as I was having printing errors with the document. It turned out to be a problem with the printer itself, but before I discovered that I came across Imposition Wizard. I don't why imposition software is considered only for proffessional use, it is probably more useful to the novice who cannot afford the time to learn manual proccess....

                         

                        So now I have a new printer(a nice little fuji xerox) and I want to be able to quickly throw togeather what I need then open it in Imposition software so it can do all the time consuming stuff. Then I can print it out, hand it and a guillotine to a staff member then get on with the rest of my day.....

                        • 9. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
                          Eugene Tyson MVP

                          I see - there are a few free versions. Honestly though I think something like Quite Imposing (A plugin for Acrobat) would be better. It is $500 or thereabouts, but that's a one time expense and will severely clear up your time to run the shop.

                           

                          I have never used these before but I guess you could try it?

                          Here's an online one http://www.imposeonline.com/faq.php

                           

                          This one seems cheap http://www.devalipi.com/purchase.html

                          • 10. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
                            Lucas Martin Community Member

                            I'd first need to buy acrobat...

                             

                            I found thishttp://www.impositionsoftware.com/ for indesign for only $89. Has anyone tried it?

                             

                            I'll have a fidle with the online one..

                            • 11. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
                              Peter Spier ACP/MVPs

                              Never heard of it before, but it looks interesting. It's not a plugin, however, but is clearly a script (which does not detract from the functionality). Why not try the 14 day demo and see if it works for you. I think we'd all like to know what you think.

                              • 12. Re: indesign with imposition plugin
                                stephen0218 Community Member

                                IDImposer, at $49.95, should do exactly what you want.  http://sterlingcomputing.com .  (15-day evaluation period)