16 Replies Latest reply: Jul 26, 2012 10:02 PM by PBoehme RSS

    Camera Callibration in Bridge

    curiousworld Community Member

      I have a new MacBookPro and have re-installed CS5.  In bridge I have previously had my camera profile in the camera callibration.  It is no longer there.  Do I need to download anything more?  Am I missign something. 

      I know this question has been put up before but I did not understand the answers given.  Please can you help me. 

       

      Thank you

        • 1. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
          b2martin_a Community Member

          I am not sure I understand your question, but if you are talking about camera profiles they have never been available in Bridge.  Camera profiles are only available in Adobe Camera RAW (ACR) and they are only availalbe for RAW files.  Adobe Camera RAW is available in either Photoshop or Bridge.  If you are processing a RAW file with Adobe Camera RAW, you will find them under the Camera Calibration Tab of Adobe Camerea RAW. 

          • 2. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
            curiousworld Community Member

            That is exactly what I mean.  When processing a RAW file with Adobe Camera Bridge in CS5 I am no longer able to find my camera in the Camera Callibration list.  It has always been there previously just not since moving onto new computer.  I have installed PS CS5 Exteneded from the original disc but the list in the Camera Calibration Tab of Adobe Camera Raw only has 2 things, Standard (2010) or (2003). Help?

            • 3. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
              station_two Community Member

              Guess you have not installed the camera profiles since re-installing CS5. 

               

              I'm pretty sure that going through the automatic installation of the free Adobe DNG Converter 7.1 will also install all the latest camera profiles.  Otherwise, you're going to try to hunt down the camera profiles by yourself and install them in CS5 yourself.

               

              There's no such thing as "Adobe Camera Bridge".  There is, of course, Adobe Camera Raw which can be hosted either by Photoshop or by Bridge.  Bridge doesn't open or process anything, it's just a file browser that hands the image file to the appropriate application, whether this be Photoshop, Adobe Camera Raw, Adobe Illustrator or even Microsoft word.

              • 4. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                station_two Community Member

                Also make sure to update the Adobe Camera Raw plug-in to version 6.7

                • 5. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                  curiousworld Community Member

                  Ah that is exactly what I have not done, thank you and thank you for the technical correction!!!   Also I will update the plug-in to version 6.7 also.  Thank you.

                  • 6. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                    station_two Community Member

                    You're most welcome.  Please feel free to come back if you need further help. 

                    • 7. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                      curiousworld Community Member

                      OK so i have update to 6.7, installed adobe DNG converter 6.7 rebooted, purged the cache but in my camera calibration in Bridge the camera profiles are still not showing!! Help again please. Thank you in advance.

                      • 8. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                        Yammer Community Member

                        Most supported cameras have sets of profiles, including Adobe Standard, Camera Standard, plus additional Camera X emulations (like Portrait, Vivid, Landscape, etc.).

                         

                        Any additional profiles will be supplied by third parties, or generated by third party software or Adobe utilities. For example, ColorChecker Passport, or Adobe DNG Profile Editor.

                         

                        In my own case, I have a home-made profile for each camera, generated using a GM ColorChecker card and Adobe DNG Profile Editor. The profile name, as listed in the Camera Calibration tab, is one I made myself.

                         

                        So, if you are missing a profile which is not one of the usual profiles supplied with Camera Raw and its updates, you need to work out where it came from, because it wouldn't have been from Adobe.

                        • 9. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                          station_two Community Member

                          curiousworld wrote:

                           

                          …but in my camera calibration in Bridge the camera profiles are still not showing!…

                           

                          Please read post #3 again, this time a bit more carefully.  You mean the camera calibration menu in Camera Raw, not Bridge.

                           

                          Adobe Camera Raw can be hosted either by Photoshop or by Bridge.  Bridge doesn't open or process anything, it's just a file browser that hands the image file to the appropriate application, whether this be Photoshop, Adobe Camera Raw, Adobe Illustrator or even Microsoft word.

                           

                           

                          curiousworld wrote:

                           

                          …installed adobe DNG converter 6.7…

                           

                          In that same post #3, I specifically advised you to install the Adobe DNG Converter 7.1.  There is no reason on Earth why you should be running version 6.7 of the Adobe DNG Converter.  You should always be running the very latest version, which means updating it three to four times per year.  The Adobe DNG Converter is not tied in with the latest version of the Adobe Camera Raw plug-in nor with your version of Photoshop.

                           

                           

                          Go back to the Adobe site and download and install the Adobe DNG Converter 7.1 now.  You don't have to worry about the obsolete version you installed.  The new version will install the updated profiles transparently.

                           

                          In post # 8, you have been given important information and further clarification on the nature of camera profiles by Yammer P.  Please read that post too.

                           

                          Message was edited by: station_two

                          • 10. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                            curiousworld Community Member

                            I must be being an idiot! I apologise for not having such a great understanding of my issue here but station_two please don't be so grumpy about my ineptitude!  I have installed 7.1 and I think the camera profile I must have had from installing the original camera software when I bought the camera a few years back.  Other than that I am not sure.  The generic Camera profiles in Camera Raw are OK on their own are they not?  Regarding the installation of DNG 7.1 how can I bring these camera profiles into Raw?  Again, my apologies if this question seems a little basic, I really am doing my very best to get my head round this it just has baffled me!! Thank you.

                            • 11. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                              Yammer Community Member

                              curiousworld wrote:

                               

                              the list in the Camera Calibration Tab of Adobe Camera Raw only has 2 things, Standard (2010) or (2003). Help?

                              They are not profiles. They are the Process Versions, which determine how Camera Raw handles images and settings. Process 2010 was introduced with version 6.

                               

                              The profiles for each camera are listed in the selector below.

                              • 12. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                                Yammer Community Member

                                curiousworld wrote:

                                 

                                OK so i have update to 6.7, installed adobe DNG converter 6.7 rebooted, purged the cache but in my camera calibration in Bridge the camera profiles are still not showing!!

                                FYI...

                                 

                                You didn't need to install DNG Converter unless one your cameras is unsupported by Camera Raw 6.7, in which case you would always install the latest DNG Converter (currently 7.1), regardless of your version of Photoshop.

                                 

                                Also, there was no need to purge the cache.

                                • 13. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                                  Yammer Community Member

                                  curiousworld wrote:

                                   

                                  I have installed 7.1 and I think the camera profile I must have had from installing the original camera software when I bought the camera a few years back.  Other than that I am not sure.  The generic Camera profiles in Camera Raw are OK on their own are they not?  Regarding the installation of DNG 7.1 how can I bring these camera profiles into Raw?

                                  Can you remember the name of the missing Camera Profile(s)? No amount of installing Adobe updates will bring back a third party profile.

                                   

                                  Stop worrying about DNG Converter. If your cameras are supported by Camera Raw version 6.7, you simply don't need it for use with Bridge.

                                   

                                  You can use any of the supplied profiles with your camera—Adobe Standard is usually the most accurate, and Camera Standard is the one which emulates the manufacturer's look most closely. There may be even older profiles listed, like 'ACR 4.3', for example. These are provided for compatibility with images last processed with older versions of Camera Raw.

                                  • 14. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                                    station_two Community Member

                                    curiousworld wrote:

                                     

                                    …Regarding the installation of DNG 7.1 how can I bring these camera profiles into Raw?…

                                     

                                    The DNG 7.1 you downloaded came in the form of an installer, did it not?  Well, the installation automatically brings the latest profiles into Camera Raw.  You don't need to do anything else.

                                     

                                    The reason I advised installing the latest version of the DNG Converter is because it (7.1) will give you all the latest profiles, which will include some that were not available in the Camera Raw plug-in 6.7 that you run with your version of Photoshop.

                                     

                                    Additionally, you may well come into ownership of a newer camera which ACR 6.7 cannot open, and the latest DNG Converter, if you keep it updated (3 or 4 times per year), will allow you to convert raw image files from future camera models.

                                    • 15. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                                      station_two Community Member

                                      Yammer P wrote:

                                       

                                      …You didn't need to install DNG Converter unless one your cameras is unsupported by Camera Raw 6.7, in which case you would always install the latest DNG Converter (currently 7.1), regardless of your version of Photoshop.

                                       

                                      Just to avoid further confusing the OP, as I indicated in my previous post, "the reason I advised installing the latest version of the DNG Converter is because it (7.1) will give you all the latest profiles, which will include some that were not available in the Camera Raw plug-in 6.7 that you run with your version of Photoshop."

                                       

                                      "Additionally, you may well come into ownership of a newer camera which ACR 6.7 cannot open, and the latest DNG Converter, if you keep it updated (3 or 4 times per year), will allow you to convert raw image files from future camera models."

                                      • 16. Re: Camera Callibration in Bridge
                                        PBoehme Community Member

                                        If you had some custom camera profiles that are now missing, it may be because those files did not get copied over from your old to your new computer.  If you still have the other computer, you will need to find what directory the custom profiles are saved in and then copy the profiles to the same directory on your new machine.  Since I am using Windows, I can't help as far as the name of the directory is concerned.  There are a number of other camera profiles such as Adobe Sandard, Camera Standard, Camera Landscape, Camera Portrait, etc. that I believe are contained in updates to Camera Raw.