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      • 40. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
        Nancy O. CommunityMVP

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        • 41. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
          osgood_ CommunityMVP

          Al Sparber wrote:

           

          With a scratch-programmed gallery and logically sized images, you do not

          have to go the "extra space" route that you dislike (but others like),

          You can simply use a gallery that automatically takes care of things for

          you, like this:

           

          http://www.projectseven.com/products/galleries/igm2/examples/demo-04.h tm

           


           

          Sure but that's what I'd say was correctly sized images i.e, theres enough area left/right in the image to be presented in a consistant and more pleasing way. Now if you had a long skinny image as the OP had its not going to work that well in my opinion.

           

          I cant recall ever seeing a slide galley were the images are not of a consistent dimension, not on the websites I've seen anyway. I guess if it were a standalone slide/gallery (as I suppose the OP's is) then if you are accepting of the extra spacing around some of the images you could get away with it, maybe.

          • 42. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
            point hvnwrd

            Al I shared this with the lady that I am doing the site for.  We both like this.  May I ask (we both wondered), does the bottom portion (showing all pictures in the gallery) have to be there, or is that something that can be taken out?

             

            Also is it fairly easy so do?  Al I am very much a beginner in this.  I had planned to take a class in June at our local Community College...BUT...being the only one to sign up...they canceled it.  So I have not had any formal training, and with such, I've just kind of muddled along.  I watched, and took notes on, some of the video put out by Create the Net have done a bit of reading in some books I have bought, but again...I kind of put that all on the back burner as I would be taking the class.

             

            I've worked on the suggested FancyBox for a good part of the day yesterday and I only have broken links (somewhere) to show for it.  I've went through it, and went through it...I don't know where I have messed up.  Is the Auto Height easy to us?  Can someone who doesn't know very much...be able to get it working and up?  Is it a disc?  And Al are you still willing to send me (us) a copy?

             

            Please know I so very much appreciate your continued help.  

             

            Have a WONDERFUL day!!

             

            Melody

             

            <. . >   Point Heavenward Siamese

                          www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com

              "Unto You I lift up my eyes, O You who dwell in the heavens."  Psalms 123:1 

                       

            • 43. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
              point hvnwrd Community Member

              Here is a video I watched yesterday morning (a FEW times) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM6NnmTGJqc  I DO like his end result!  But for the life of me...I can't seem to get mine to work.  (What I have on her Scrapbook page is 15 little broken link image boxes.  Yeah!  Not so pretty.)

               

              Melody

               

              <. . >   Point Heavenward Siamese

                            www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com

                "Unto You I lift up my eyes, O You who dwell in the heavens."  Psalms 123:1 

                         

              • 44. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                osgood_ CommunityMVP

                point hvnwrd wrote:

                 

                I've worked on the suggested FancyBox for a good part of the day yesterday and I only have broken links (somewhere) to show for it.  I've went through it, and went through it...I don't know where I have messed up.

                 

                 

                Can you make sure that your images are uploaded to your server in the 'fancybox_imgs' folder?

                 

                You're seeing broken image links because the browser cannot find them where your links to them say they are:

                 

                http://www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com/fancybox_imgs/Phantom.jpg

                 

                 

                You haven't uploaded your jquery scripts either:

                 

                http://www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com/scripts/jquery.js

                • 45. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                  point hvnwrd Community Member

                  Top portion.

                   

                   

                   

                  <!Loading the CSS Files>

                   

                   

                   

                  !fancybox_imgs/Phantom.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Easy.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Dulciana.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Alaska.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Cindy.png!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Abelard.png!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Domingo.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Gaea.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Ibarra.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Magnifikat.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Ratatatouille.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Rathnait.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Satori.png!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Tea.jpg!

                  !fancybox_imgs/Vite.jpg!

                   

                  I have uploaded all this into my workspace and have tried to make sure all by paths are correct, but not knowing what I'm doing, that is probably were the problem lies.  

                   

                  I don't know.

                   

                  I want to do the best job I can for her, not only because it's for someone else, but because I want her to be tickled with it, and throwed by how beautiful such a program can make a photo gallery.  I want her to be pleased.

                   

                  Thank you for your help.

                   

                  Melody

                   

                  <. . >   Point Heavenward Siamese

                                www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com

                    "Unto You I lift up my eyes, O You who dwell in the heavens."  Psalms 123:1 

                             

                  • 46. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                    osgood_ CommunityMVP

                    point hvnwrd wrote:

                     

                    I have uploaded all this into my workspace and have tried to make sure all by paths are correct, but not knowing what I'm doing, that is probably were the problem lies. 

                     

                     

                    Hummm..if you can't upload the images its going to be a bit of a struggle for you.

                     

                    What do you mean when you say 'I have uploaded all this into my workspace'?

                     

                    Where are the images you listed above stored in your local site folder....in what folder?

                    • 47. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                      point hvnwrd Community Member

                      I have uploaded all the images I have so far (she is sending some through the mail) onto my website account with Web Hosting Hub.  (Right now her site is in my own work space so I can create it for her.)  http://pointheavenwardsiamese.com/GeishagollSiamese/home.php  This is what I mean.  

                       

                      Her images (for the photo gallery) are all in their own separate folder called fancybox_imgs

                       

                      Here is what I do when going to work on her site.  After getting into my File Manager, I go to her folder called GeishagollSiamese.  

                       

                      This brings up all her pages (ie. Home, Cattery Policy, Males, etc.) and two folders (ie. _imgs and fancybox).  

                       

                      When I click on fancybox it brings up 4 folders (ie. blank.gif, fancybox_imgs, fancybox_loading.gif, and fancybox_sprite.png) and then 3 files (ie. jquery.fancybox.css, jquery.fancybox.js, and jquery.fancybox.pack.js).

                       

                      I HOPE I have that all set up right.  

                       

                      I uploaded all the fancybox into my hosting (website) workspace so that when it (her site folders/files) was moved it would all be there for her (when it is put into an account of her own through the same hosting company I have).

                       

                      Did I do right?

                       

                      Melody

                       

                      <. . >   Point Heavenward Siamese

                                    www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com

                        "Unto You I lift up my eyes, O You who dwell in the heavens."  Psalms 123:1 

                                 

                      • 48. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                        Al Sparber Community Member

                        The thumbnail images are optional. There is no coding involved. You

                        simply open the interface and browse to your images. If you get stuck,

                        you simply call us on the phone and we get you sorted in minutes.

                         

                        --

                        Al Sparber - PVII

                        http://www.projectseven.com

                        The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

                        Since 1998

                        • 49. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                          osgood_ CommunityMVP

                          Al Sparber wrote:

                           

                          The thumbnail images are optional. There is no coding involved. You

                          simply open the interface and browse to your images. If you get stuck,

                          you simply call us on the phone and we get you sorted in minutes.

                           

                           

                          Is there any uploading involved though?

                          • 50. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                            osgood_ CommunityMVP

                            point hvnwrd wrote:

                             

                             

                            Did I do right?

                             

                            No. I'm not sure where you're uploading your images to once you get into your remote server because they are not where the links in your page says they are:

                             

                            http://www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com/fancybox_imgs/Phantom.jpg

                             

                            Until you can get the images in the correct place on the server nothing will work.

                             

                            You must have uploaded images before as you had the initial page set up showing the images...so where did you upload those to?

                            • 51. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                              point hvnwrd Community Member

                              Will this help?

                               

                              http://www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com/GeishagollSiamese/fancybox/fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg 

                               

                               

                              This is where my pictures are.

                               

                              <. . >   Point Heavenward Siamese

                                            www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com

                                "Unto You I lift up my eyes, O You who dwell in the heavens."  Psalms 123:1 

                                         

                              • 52. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                osgood_ CommunityMVP

                                point hvnwrd wrote:

                                 

                                Will this help?

                                         

                                 

                                See example:

                                 

                                http://www.nycercoachbreaks.co.uk/geishagoll_siamese/

                                • 53. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                  point hvnwrd Community Member

                                  You got it!  

                                   

                                  Could you tell what I am doing wrong?  What I need to fix?

                                   

                                  Also, is this what FancyBox looks like?  Showing all the images and you have to click on each one to see it larger?  Does it rotate by itself?  Can you make it to where it hides all the photos and just rotates/carousels each one in a gallery form?  (She is sending me a whole packet full more to scan, upload, and put on this page.)

                                   

                                  Thank you so much for all that work.  Thank you.

                                   

                                  Melody

                                   

                                  <. . >   Point Heavenward Siamese

                                                www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com

                                    "Unto You I lift up my eyes, O You who dwell in the heavens."  Psalms 123:1 

                                             

                                  • 54. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                    osgood_ CommunityMVP

                                    point hvnwrd wrote:

                                     

                                     

                                    Also, is this what FancyBox looks like? 

                                    Yes.

                                     

                                     

                                    point hvnwrd wrote:

                                     

                                    Does it rotate by itself? 

                                     

                                    Fancybox doesn't rotate. (I thought you may have looked at the examples on the Fancybox site?)

                                     

                                     

                                    point hvnwrd wrote:

                                     

                                     

                                    Can you make it to where it hides all the photos and just rotates/carousels each one in a gallery form? 

                                     

                                    If you want a rotator I'd go with Als example/s, they are image rotator/slider/cycle through solutions. Call it what you want. Not sure how Vite (the last one in the gallery will work unless you have a bigger image) The issue I see with the images you have are they are way variable in dimension and a cycle through solution may look odd as opposed to viewing the images in a standalone environment. I mean some still look odd to me in Fancybox but its the lesser of two evils, if you know what I mean.

                                    • 55. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                      point hvnwrd Community Member

                                      Okey-doke!

                                       

                                      Thank you.

                                       

                                      I have sent on your example, and will probably forward this email on as well, so she will know.  I am thinking that she wanted more of a carousel.

                                       

                                      I did go to their page and try to bring up there examples.  Some worked, some didn't.  On the ones that worked, I just thought it was showing me ONE sample...and I liked it.  But thought it was a fading, carousel photo gallery...with each photo fading and coming up like the sample picture.

                                       

                                      Please forgive me.  I feel like I have wasted your time by not understanding what FancyBox was.  I AM sorry for that.

                                       

                                      Appreciate your help.  I will see what she would like to do from here.  Which photo gallery form she would like to go toward.

                                       

                                      Have a WONDERFUL day!!

                                       

                                      Melody

                                       

                                      <. . >   Point Heavenward Siamese

                                                    www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com

                                        "Unto You I lift up my eyes, O You who dwell in the heavens."  Psalms 123:1 

                                                 

                                      • 56. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                        osgood_ CommunityMVP

                                        point hvnwrd wrote:

                                         

                                        You got it! 

                                         

                                        Could you tell what I am doing wrong?  What I need to fix?

                                         

                                        You have identified your images as being in this location (in the GeishagollSiamese folder):

                                         

                                        http://www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com/GeishagollSiamese/fancybox/fancy box_img/Phantom.jpg

                                         

                                         

                                        But in your current scrapbook page you have NOT included the folder names 'GeishagollSiamese' and 'fancybox' at the start of the img src:

                                         

                                        <a class="fancybox" title= "CH Geishagoll Phantom on Ice (Lilac Point Male)" href="fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg"><img src="fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg"/></a>

                                         

                                        They should include the folder names like this:

                                         

                                        <a class="fancybox" title= "CH Geishagoll Phantom on Ice (Lilac Point Male)" href="

                                        GeishagollSiamese/fancybox/

                                        fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg"><img src="GeishagollSiamese/fancybox/fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg"/></a>

                                         

                                        If you amend all your links to include the folder names you should see some images appear but be warned the images will be all over the place because they are of variable size unless you have cropped them which I very much doubt.

                                        • 57. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                          osgood_ CommunityMVP

                                          point hvnwrd wrote:

                                           

                                           

                                          Please forgive me.  I feel like I have wasted your time by not understanding what FancyBox was.  I AM sorry for that.

                                           

                                           

                                          No, you have not wasted my time as it keeps me 'fresh' in terms of code writing and how solutions works. I don't use Fancybox on a regular basis so you tend to forget almost everything when you make a revist.....so if anything its was a good and useful exercise for myself.

                                          • 58. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                            point hvnwrd Community Member

                                            Ah ha!  I see.  I tried some of that, but did not do that very last input of <img src="GeishagollSiamese/fancybox/fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg"/>  Mine, rather read  I did not think I needed to include that fancybox class as it was at the beginning of my code line.

                                             

                                            I do not know yet what she wants to do, but I think I will go in and try this all out.  Just so I can have it come up.

                                             

                                            Thank you for your help.  And for taking the time to TEACH.  Thank you.

                                             

                                            Have a GREAT day!!

                                             

                                            Melody

                                             

                                            <. . >   Point Heavenward Siamese

                                                          www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com

                                              "Unto You I lift up my eyes, O You who dwell in the heavens."  Psalms 123:1 

                                                       

                                            • 59. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                              Ben Pleysier CommunityMVP

                                              osgood_ wrote:

                                               

                                              If you want a rotator I'd go with Als example/s, they are image rotator/slider/cycle through solutions. Call it what you want. Not sure how Vite (the last one in the gallery will work unless you have a bigger image) The issue I see with the images you have are they are way variable in dimension and a cycle through solution may look odd as opposed to viewing the images in a standalone environment. I mean some still look odd to me in Fancybox but its the lesser of two evils, if you know what I mean.

                                               

                                              There are other sliders such as http://flex.madebymufffin.com/examples/thumbnail-controlnav.html and http://jquery.malsup.com/cycle/ both of which are very easy to install using the Adobe Widget Browser

                                              • 60. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                point hvnwrd Community Member

                                                Thank you for that.

                                                 

                                                I DO like that "basic slider".  Just very nice.

                                                 

                                                The only thing is that I would have to crop pictures...and that would be okay if all her photos were all basically the same (ie.  all head shots or all body shots), but they are a mixture.  And even in that, if they were all body shots...body shots are taken both ways...some portrait style and some landscape...and I know she would hate to cut out a nice body so the head could be kept and used in a slider.  (It's just nice to see a full body shot.)

                                                 

                                                I DO thank you for that though.  For taking the time to send it and have me be aware of it.

                                                 

                                                Appreciate it very much.

                                                 

                                                See now...it makes me think of my OWN website and that I'm not so fond of the one that was used for my home page.  I don't know what it was she used, but this that you shared is much nicer.  I like the automatic sliding feature.  I hope to one day do work on my own site and I will bookmark that slider.

                                                 

                                                Have a WONDERFUL day!

                                                 

                                                Melody  

                                                 

                                                <. . >   Point Heavenward Siamese

                                                              www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com

                                                  "Unto You I lift up my eyes, O You who dwell in the heavens."  Psalms 123:1 

                                                           

                                                • 61. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                  osgood_ CommunityMVP

                                                  point hvnwrd wrote:

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  The only thing is that I would have to crop pictures...and that would be okay if all her photos were all basically the same (ie.  all head shots or all body shots), but they are a mixture.  And even in that, if they were all body shots...body shots are taken both ways...some portrait style and some landscape...and I know she would hate to cut out a nice body so the head could be kept and used in a slider.  (It's just nice to see a full body shot.)

                                                   

                                                   

                                                  That's the point I've been trying to make since day 1.......sliders are very nice in terms of presentation as long as your images have enough scope to mantain consitent dimensions. (that usually means cropping) Unfortunately yours don't so youre going to end up with a pretty ugly solution.....well not exactly ugly,  the best that can be achieved.

                                                   

                                                  I mean take the image of Vite, at the moment is not much larger than a thumbnail, that's going to look pretty odd sliding along with huge amounts of space surrounding it.

                                                  • 62. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                    osgood_ CommunityMVP

                                                    Altruistic Gramps wrote:

                                                     

                                                     

                                                    There are other sliders such as http://flex.madebymufffin.com/examples/thumbnail-controlnav.html and http://jquery.malsup.com/cycle/ both of which are very easy to install using the Adobe Widget Browser

                                                     

                                                    Thanks Gramps,

                                                     

                                                    I like the 'basic slider' shown in url 1.......might use that myself next time I have a reason to use a slider.

                                                     

                                                    Cheers

                                                     

                                                    Os

                                                    • 63. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                      Ben Pleysier CommunityMVP

                                                      @Os,

                                                       

                                                      Sorry I came here so late, I could have given you better support.

                                                       

                                                      Gramps

                                                      • 64. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                        Al Sparber Community Member

                                                        What I have not seen yet, is a slider that adjusts to the natural

                                                        dimensions of its content. Making a slider that scales images is nothing

                                                        to do with script. It is a simple CSS task.

                                                         

                                                        We've been doing this for years with images and text:

                                                        http://www.projectseven.com/products/tools/horizontal-accordion/tutorials/galleria/example .htm

                                                         

                                                        The core open source libraries do not support this type of functionality

                                                        by default, so it takes expert programming skills on the plugin

                                                        developer's part. While there might be some truly adaptive jQuery

                                                        sliders out there, when we researched and planned our sliders there were

                                                        absolutely none.

                                                         

                                                        --

                                                        Al Sparber - PVII

                                                        http://www.projectseven.com

                                                        The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

                                                        Since 1998

                                                        • 65. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                          Ben Pleysier CommunityMVP

                                                          Al Sparber wrote:

                                                           

                                                          What I have not seen yet, is a slider that adjusts to the natural

                                                          dimensions of its content.

                                                          Have a look http://pleysier.com.au/flexislider/

                                                           

                                                          Gramps

                                                           

                                                          PS This example is based on version 1, version 2 is even better.

                                                           

                                                          Message was edited by: Altruistic Gramps

                                                          • 66. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                            Al Sparber Community Member

                                                            Thanks Gramps. Could be that the author is not very talented, design-wise, but it just looks a bit amaturish to me. I will admit I have never seen that one before and we sure as heck looked high and low to see if any plugin developers knew how to work around jQuery's constraints in that area. Do you have an example of an adaptive slider that is a bit more refined and that does text as well as images? Perhaps close to what this does:

                                                             

                                                            http://www.projectseven.com/products/tools/tpm2/tutorials/nesting/index.htm

                                                             

                                                            --

                                                            Al Sparber - PVII

                                                            http://www.projectseven.com

                                                            The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

                                                            Since 1998

                                                            • 67. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                              Al Sparber Community Member

                                                              Hi Melody,

                                                               

                                                              Got your message. Glad your friend liked our gallery. I'm posting here in case you do not get my reply to your private message via this forum. I must have bad luck, but half the things on this forum simply do not work right for me. Use our support email address and we'll get you started. You'll find the email address and phone number here:

                                                               

                                                              http://www.projectseven.com/support/index.htm

                                                              • 68. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                                Ben Pleysier CommunityMVP

                                                                @Mr Sparber,

                                                                 

                                                                I guess I am the so-called amateur; we can't all be knowledgeable.

                                                                 

                                                                As I said, version 2 is better and if I had the time to show you, I would. But then you would only rubbish this amateur as you have done in the past and as recently as in this post.

                                                                 

                                                                The main reason I gave the example was to show that free-of-charge sliders (not just this one but also Malsup's Cycle and Nivo Slider amongst others) do show the natural dimensions, in contrast to what you have been erroneously saying.

                                                                 

                                                                Have a good day sir!

                                                                 

                                                                Gramps.

                                                                 

                                                                PS Incidentally, have a look at DMXZone, http://www.dmxzone.com/go/18780/dmxzone-nivo-slider/, where they have made very good use of the Nivo Slider for a very reasonable €29.00

                                                                • 69. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                                  Al Sparber Community Member

                                                                  Hi Gramps,

                                                                   

                                                                  Thanks for the additional information. Unfortunately, Nivo slider does

                                                                  not show text content in any of the demos listed at the site, nor do I

                                                                  see one using different size images. Actually, with some of the

                                                                  animation methods being used, I would say that it would be impossible -

                                                                  or very messy.

                                                                   

                                                                  I'm not sure of the relevancy of the other "recommendation" you are

                                                                  making, as it is appears to be the same open source-based script, with

                                                                  the same features and limitations - made into a Dreamweaver extension.

                                                                  If we thought jQuery were a good direction for us, we could turn out one

                                                                  of those a week. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. It apparently works

                                                                  for the company you mentions and I say more power to them.

                                                                   

                                                                  But it's not our thing. We program from the ground up so that we have

                                                                  total control over the feature set and refinement of a tool and to

                                                                  ensure the best possible experience for our customers that we can.

                                                                   

                                                                  I have not seen an example that matches this:

                                                                  http://www.projectseven.com/products/tools/tpm2/tutorials/nesting/

                                                                   

                                                                  Or this:

                                                                  http://www.projectseven.com/products/galleries/igm2/tutorials/full-open/

                                                                   

                                                                  The only limitation you keep leveling on my company is that we are not

                                                                  free or, when you mention another commercial tool, that we are more

                                                                  expensive. But it's common knowledge that we've been making Dreamweaver

                                                                  commercial tools longer than anyone else and we are alleged to have

                                                                  stellar customer support. We even donate products to charitable

                                                                  organizations and the needy. And we are easily accessible for support

                                                                  via email, forum, and telephone - world wide.

                                                                   

                                                                  So I'm really not sure where you are coming from. But I'm sure you are

                                                                  perfectly sure of your goals so it's probably just a communications

                                                                  failure. It happens.

                                                                   

                                                                  By the way, I meant the developer's own examples were amateurish looking

                                                                  to me - not yours. I hardly looked at your page and went straight to the

                                                                  developer's page.

                                                                   

                                                                   

                                                                  --

                                                                  Al Sparber - PVII

                                                                  http://www.projectseven.com

                                                                  Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

                                                                  • 70. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                                    Ben Pleysier CommunityMVP

                                                                    @Mr Sparber,

                                                                     

                                                                    You hit the nail on the head, professional Al (earning big bucks) and amateur Gramps (receives zilch), although I do prefer altruistic Gramps. I have nothing against a professional, we all need to eat and have a roof above our heads; but it is you who started thumping and until I see an apology, I aim to keep it up.

                                                                     

                                                                    Please let me remind you in this discussion http://forums.adobe.com/message/3719071#3719071 where you said and more

                                                                    While most Dreamweaver users do not fully understand how to use absolute

                                                                    positioning, your assertion is gross disinformation and you would be

                                                                    well served to hone your skills (and attitude) a bit.

                                                                     

                                                                    Have a good day sir.

                                                                     

                                                                    Gramps

                                                                    • 71. Re: Slider (or Slideshow)
                                                                      Al Sparber Community Member

                                                                      Hi Gramps,

                                                                       

                                                                      The last thing I would ever do to win an argument (and in this case, a

                                                                      non-existent one) is to cite past posts when I run out of points. The

                                                                      dear old-timers on the Italian side of my family used to love doing that

                                                                      - although they usually hugged and kissed after the sparks stopped

                                                                      flying I remember whenever Aunt Rose and my mom used to get into a

                                                                      little argument, Aunt Rose would always bring up the time in 1953 when

                                                                      mom said her pasta sauce was better.

                                                                       

                                                                      The thread you cited does not cover the full context of our

                                                                      disagreements. I'm not about to accumulate and present evidence of the

                                                                      various times we've both been a little testy towards each other to build

                                                                      a case over who was more right or more wrong or who struck first. We're

                                                                      both human and the last time I checked, none of our species is ever perfect.

                                                                       

                                                                      The reality is that we both make our livings in the web design field. I

                                                                      believe you recently mentioned some nice new contracts - one being in

                                                                      Switzerland. That's great and something you should be proud of. I would

                                                                      also guess that your altruistic work on these forums might sometimes

                                                                      help you get some contracts. And that's also a good thing.

                                                                       

                                                                      I believe we do the same sort of good, but in different ways. Altruism

                                                                      can also involve selling someone a product for $95 and giving them free

                                                                      lifetime support, free updates, and advice that some might say is worth

                                                                      many times more than the price of entry. Not to mention the dozens of

                                                                      complimentary copies we dole out to the less advantaged and to non-profits.

                                                                       

                                                                      Project Seven has been in business since 1997 and has been producing

                                                                      commercial Dreamweaver extensions since 1998. I am truly sorry if I've

                                                                      offended you in the past. But if we are both mature adults (and I think

                                                                      we're probably fairly close in age) we should be able to be move forward

                                                                      to the point where we can openly debate the matter of sliders,

                                                                      galleries, and quality, without resorting to smear tactics or whose

                                                                      sauce was better in 1953.

                                                                       

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                                                                      Al Sparber - PVII

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