11 Replies Latest reply: Jul 30, 2012 6:45 AM by OldBob1957 RSS

    Noob Question


      I can't seem to get the "expand" funtion to work.


      I type my text. Highlight my text, than select object>expand, but nothing happens. No pop-ups or messages. Just sits there. "Rasterize" works, but not expand. Am I doing something wrong?

        • 1. Re: Noob Question
          Monika Gause MVP

          What kind of expand are you after? There are several.


          Just in case you want to convert your text to paths, you might take a look here:

          http://help.adobe.com/en_US/illustrator/cs/using/WS714a382cdf7d304e7e07d0100196cbc5f-63d0a .html#WS18156339-458C-45e1-8CD0-DD7931678BBE

          • 2. Re: Noob Question
            mr314 Community Member

            I was gowing through this tutorial and got stuck on step 2, because nothing happened when I clicked expand.

            http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/text-effects-tutorials/super-glossy-3d-typography-photos hop/


            Could it be that I have a limited installation of illustrator that doesn't have this feature available?

            • 3. Re: Noob Question
              Jacob Bugge MVP



              It ought to work, but if I understand it in the right way you can obtain the desired result if you Type>Create Outlines.


              It may be a matter of corrupt preferences. You may look at the (first) suggestions here (you may have tried/done some of them already) and see whether it helps:


              1) Close down Illy and open again;

              2) Restart the computer;

              3) Close down Illy and press Ctrl+Alt+Shift/Cmd+Option+Shift during startup;

              4) Move the folder with Illy closed;


              5) Look through and try out the relevant among the Other options;


              Even more seriously, you may:


              6) Uninstall, run the Cleaner Tool (if you have CS3/CS4/CS5/CS6), and reinstall.  http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cscleanertool.html

              • 4. Re: Noob Question
                mr314 Community Member

                Thank you for the help. Both suggestions were helpful.

                • 5. Re: Noob Question
                  Wade_Zimmerman Community Member



                  In this case you do not highlight the text but instead you select it!


                  What's the difference you might be wondering.


                  Highlighting the text or inserting the text cursor is for working with text at the character level and selecting it is working wit at the type level.


                  The former is for creating and editing text and he latter is treating text as art.


                  If you want to expand or create outlines or flatten the transparency (similar to expanding) you have to select the text with the selection tool and not the type  tool.


                  The selection tool is either the black arrow or the white arrow or the lasso tool.


                  So if you highlight like this the expand command will not work


                  Screen Shot 2012-07-29 at 7.05.15 AM.png


                  If on te other hadn you select the text with a selection tool you will be able to expand or create outlines


                  Screen Shot 2012-07-29 at 7.05.57 AM.png


                  I am not certain how helpful the help files are on the subject but you might want to search out te differences in the different uses of type in Illustrator.


                  Hope this helps solve your issue.

                  • 6. Re: Noob Question
                    Jacob Bugge MVP

                    For my part you are welcome, mr314.


                    When (some or all of) the live Type is selected with the Type Tool, the Object>Expand option is greyed out, so I presume you have selested the Type with the normal (or Direct) Selection Tool where the option should work, as an alternative to Type>Create Outlines.

                    • 7. Re: Noob Question
                      Wade_Zimmerman Community Member

                      That is not the case Jacob when you highlight text with the type tool expand isn't grayed out. It just doesn'5294))?

                      • 8. Re: Noob Question
                        Jacob Bugge MVP

                        It seems that there may be a difference between versions, Wade.


                        Maybe we shall never know how the Type was selected.

                        • 9. Re: Noob Question
                          Wade_Zimmerman Community Member

                          We know how hey selected the text they wrote we highlighted the the text, and if they had selected it with the selection tool then expand would work but if they highlighted it with the text tool then it would not work.


                          So it is pretty clear how they selected the text and we kknow they are not using the version you are using since they are a noob! Not too likely they would be on v10.


                          That would be kind of a very, very, very long shot, won't you say.


                          I thkn they will be back tomorrow.

                          • 10. Re: Noob Question
                            Jacob Bugge MVP

                            I wonder which is greater, the inconceivableness of later versions introducing new misleading non options, such as ungreying impossible operations, or the inconceivablenss of an OP using what may seem to be a misleading term implying the use of another Tool than the actual one.


                            Since both are inconceivablenesses, it may be hard to have a clue.

                            • 11. Re: Noob Question
                              OldBob1957 Community Member

                              @ Jacob Bugge.


                              You're right. There must be a version difference. I don't know about CS6, as I don't have it. But on the machines here, in CS3, 4, and 5, on both Windows and Mac, highlighting text with the text tool does not gray out Object > Expand but, as the OP stated, clicking it it doesn't do anything, either.