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1. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
~graffiti Jul 27, 2012 7:32 AM (in response to Jacob Bugge)The only thing I don't particularly agree with is under the "Don't" section where it says "
- Don't post a series of questions in a single post. Splitting them into separate threads increases your chances of a quick answer.
Sometimes a series of questions (especially if they're technical issues) can help diagnose an issue. All the questions could be related somehow but if they're in different threads, we may miss some important clues.
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2. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
the_wine_snob Jul 27, 2012 8:15 AM (in response to ~graffiti)Yes. I can see reason to discuss that one just a bit.
If one structures their post and questions properly, using paragraphs and mybe even outlining multiple questions, it should not be THAT hard to follow, and provide answers to say, 1, 5 & 7.
One positve for asking multiple questions in one thread is that if there is any chance that the OP's equipment is at fault, they only have to list it once. Even linking to another post can be confsusing and time-consuming for one, who is attempting to answer.
However, I believe that many of us have seen posts that basically ask, "How do I use this product," and proceed to jumble up dozens of questions, often in one long sentence, or paragraph.
Just my thoughts, and I can easily see many exceptions to either side.
Hunt
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3. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Jacob Bugge Jul 27, 2012 2:09 PM (in response to Jacob Bugge)I agree that it may be time to update the contents.
One other change is EMPLOYEE > staff.
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4. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Dave Merchant Jul 29, 2012 3:08 AM (in response to Jacob Bugge)Forget about those posts, they're out of date - hence the 'archived' title.
The Community Guidelines are the current references and are actively updated.
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5. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Jacob Bugge Jul 29, 2012 5:17 AM (in response to Dave Merchant)Thank you for the update, Dave.
I was misled by the outdated reference here:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/general
As it appears, the (almost) current versions were even better hidden than the outdated ones (you have to go one level further up, past the outdated reference).
This seems to support the suggestion of inserting a reference in the forums, where the guidelines are to be used.
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6. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Dave Merchant Jul 29, 2012 12:47 PM (in response to Jacob Bugge)I've fixed the overview page - there was in fact a link to the Community Guidelines on the page, it's up at the top of the dark gray right-side panel. Nobody seems to look there so I've added it to the main panel.
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7. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Jacob Bugge Jul 29, 2012 3:20 PM (in response to Dave Merchant)Thank you very much, Dave.
Let us hope that the more prominent position will help.
Otherwise, it is easier to refer people to them.
It would be even better if it was also shown on the Discussion page, which I believe most will use whenever they find out how.
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8. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
pwillener Jul 29, 2012 6:22 PM (in response to Jacob Bugge)Jacob Bugge wrote:
It would be even better if it was also shown on the Discussion page
It would, indeed, but unfortunately this is not possible.
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9. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Claudio González Jul 29, 2012 6:53 PM (in response to pwillener)Pat, this is not possible is an answer I was taught not to accept easily. Can this really be so difficult as to make it impossible?
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10. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
pwillener Jul 29, 2012 9:29 PM (in response to Claudio González)Claudio, let me rephrase this: it is not possible with the forum software that we currently have. (It is possible that the forum admin may be able to do it, but the forum moderators can only modify the Overview page. Do not ask me what the logic behind this could possibly be...)
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11. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Dave Merchant Jul 30, 2012 2:13 AM (in response to pwillener)Overview pages are the only ones that have the 'widget' system we can use to change the layouts in a live site, and they're the only pages which can be forum-specific. The other page types (discussion, message, reply, profile, etc.) are universal across the entire site and are controlled by template files, written in Freemarker language, that form part of the 'theme' - they can only be changed by the developer team from outside the running application.
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12. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Claudio González Jul 30, 2012 3:52 AM (in response to Dave Merchant)Then, if I understand you both correctly, it is possible to make this change with the current forum software, but only a few selected people can do it. If enough "members of this community" consider that the change would be useful, why not do it then?
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13. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Dave Merchant Jul 30, 2012 5:22 AM (in response to Claudio González)Yes it's possible for Adobe's user interface team to change the page layouts - but the next update isn't due for a while.
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14. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Claudio González Jul 30, 2012 10:40 AM (in response to Dave Merchant)Better late than never...
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15. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
TerriStoneJul 30, 2012 3:39 PM (in response to Jacob Bugge)
Jacob, there is a link to the newest set of Community Guidelines on some Discussion pages. See for example the upper right-hand corner of http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop/general .
We have to manually insert the widget with the Community Guidelines link, so with thousands of sub-forums, we have a ways to go...
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16. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Jacob Bugge Jul 31, 2012 1:55 AM (in response to TerriStone)Terri,
I am referring to Discussion page as in:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop/general?view=discussions#
I no longer remember how to switch to them (if still possible), but in my Bookmarks I have those views, so I rarely see the Overview (kind of) pages at all.
Thank you for making me finally grasp the fact that the addition is only there in certain forums; I thought it was a general fix because I also saw it in the Illustrator forum; rereading posts #6&11 I can see my misinterpretation.
I believe the universal addition, especially to the Discussion pages, is one for the wish list.
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17. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Dave Merchant Aug 7, 2012 4:17 AM (in response to Jacob Bugge)Normal users cannot select a default view mode because in the new forum skin they aren't shown the tab interface. You can navigate to the overview mode by moving up one level on the breadcrumb header (e.g. on this page click " > Forum Comments > "), but you'll have to use bookmarks to make a particular view mode sticky.
Jacob Bugge wrote:
I no longer remember how to switch to them (if still possible), but in my Bookmarks I have those views, so I rarely see the Overview (kind of) pages at all.
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18. Re: Secrets (to be) revealed
Jacob Bugge Aug 7, 2012 5:37 AM (in response to Dave Merchant)I thought it might be so, Dave.
I presume that if you want to view a full 100 threads per page in any forum, you will have to add the following to the Discussion page URL yourself (and remember to bookmark the full page view):
#/?per_page=100
This is hereby suggested to anyone taking part in the faster forums.