5 Replies Latest reply: Jul 30, 2012 8:33 AM by the_wine_snob RSS

    Slideshow flicker problems

    kjm33 Community Member

      I am creating my first slide show using the Organizer and PRE10, exactly as recommended by Steve Grisetti in his book.  I have resized all the photos to 1000x750 at most, created the slide show using the Organizer, applied pan and zoom to most of the images, exported to PRE10.  In PRE10 I have added music (using fade in and out ) and the occasional title. The file is DV standard (I am in Australia). I have rendered the timeline and the green line shows. I have a number of problems:

       

      1. the preview window looks dreadful with thick vertical stripes in it - these look slightly different when I play the preview but are still there. They are not there in the exported file.  Why should the preview window not match the output even after rendering?

       

      2. Next problem is what output format do I choose?  Initially I'll be viewing on the PC so I chose FLV DV large.  I've also tested DVD PAL as I may burn a DVD later.

       

      3. Irrespective of output format the output looks bad wherever a pan and zoom has been applied - there is flickering, especially where there are lines in the image, such as the railings of a balcony.  I have tried various things - flicker removal on the photo, applying a gaussian blur in PS, de-interlacing the image, but none made a significant difference.  Also, even without pan and zoom my images don't look as sharp as if I use Picasa to do a simple slide show (no audio, titles, or pan and zoom though ).

       

      Why is this so damn hard - in principle slide shows are something people do all the time.  I am sure I have watched friend's slide shows with pan and zoom - maybe their images were not of the sort to cause problems - vertical lines in the image seem to be the worst - or maybe I am more critical of my own presentation.

       

      Any advice would be appreciated.  If necessary I will remove the pan and zoom from all slides.

        • 1. Re: Slideshow flicker problems
          Steve Grisetti CommunityMVP

          I hope you found my suggestions somewhat useful, kjm.

           

          You don't say which project settings you used when you set up your project, but it's pretty unlikely your output is going to be high enough resolution to play full-screen on your computer monitor. With DV settings, after all, you're only outputting essentially a 640x480 image! Most likely your computer monitor is at least twice that resolution wide and twice that resolution tall.

           

          I don't know what the thick horizontal stripes are you're seeing. Have you rendered your timeline (press Enter) before previewing it on your timeline? Unless you've got green lines along the top of your entire timeline, your playback is going to look pretty bad.

           

          As for your output -- again, it doesn't matter how large the file is you're outputting if your original file was only set up for standard resolution DV. You'll just get a large version of a small file -- which won't look good.

           

          You say you've tried de-interlacing. Does that mean you applied Flicker Removal to each photo?

           

          All that said, you can only go so far working with video resolution. If you're really looking to create slideshows that will look good on your computer, you might better consider a program called Pro Show Gold. Check it out online. It's a dedicated slideshow creator.

           

          Premiere Elements works best a tool for editing video, DVDs and BluRays.

          • 2. Re: Slideshow flicker problems
            kjm33 Community Member

            I have applied flicker removal and have rendered the timeline - the green line shows above the timeline. If I don't use the setting DV what setting do you recommend I use?

            I just tried HDV 720p and I am getting much better results - the preview window now looks fine and the output, even with pan and zoom also seems ok.  I created a F4V file (which does not seem to have a file association, but played fine using VLC).  Most of my photos were taken at 16x9 resolution on a Lumix TZ10; a few came from friends at standard 3:2 resolution.  Anyway I am getting better results but I still do not understand the whole process - how am I supposed to know what setting to use for these photos.

            • 3. Re: Slideshow flicker problems
              the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

              If one is using ONLY Still Images, then the choice of the Project Preset, and the Scaling of the Still Images in Photoshop, or Photoshop Elements, should be predicated on the output.

               

              If, however, there IS Video, that takes over, and the Project Preset should match THAT, and the Still Images should be Scaled to also match that. The output does not come into play, until time to Share the Timeline.

               

              Good luck,

               

              Hunt

              • 4. Re: Slideshow flicker problems
                kjm33 Community Member

                Bill, That is really helpful information. If I have one small video clip in AVCHD taken at 16:9 resolution on my Lumix TZ10 what settings would I choose - I presume one of the (non-Lite) AVCHD settings.  Then what size should my photos be resizedd to - is the 1000 max on the long side now too small?

                • 5. Re: Slideshow flicker problems
                  the_wine_snob CommunityMVP

                  If that is full-AVCHD, it will be 1920 x 1080 w/ PAR = 1.0. That is what I would Scale the Still Images to. For a little "wiggle room," many use 2000 x 1500 w/ PAR = 1.0, and then let PrE Scale down, or just let the Frame Size effectively crop off a few pixels. I like to Scale exactly to my Video Frame Size in PS, or, if I need to Pan on a Zoomed out Image, just calculate the exact number of pixels needed, and Scale to that.

                   

                  Good luck,

                   

                  Hunt